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[LomanBill]

>>FY2009’s passage?

FY2009 is a red-herring train wreck full of box-cars filled with sub-prime a$$paper ready to derail.

You know, "a$$paper" -- the Mortgage Backed Securities that Mr. Ambassador's merry band of Long Beach Pirates started manufacturing LOOOOOONG before FY2009 got "passed"... or constipated either, for that matter.

 

[org.whodat]

Damn, I’m sorry, but old queer barney is what he is, the so called housing boom was cheered on by both sides, singing how great they were.

[FromTheSidelines]

Again, how does an ambassadorial appointment relate to FY2009’s passage?

My contention was that the graph of post 49 was wrong because of it’s FY2009 assignment. Is that a problem for you?

[LomanBill]

>>the graph attributes FY2009 to President Bush

 

GeeOpie, maybe that's all you see - but to other's eyes and free mind, the interesting part of the graph is the little blippy about something called the "Economic Stimulus Act of 2008" Here, let's zoom in on that, shall we?

 

Economic Stimulus Act of 2008

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 (Pub.L. 110-185, 122 Stat. 613, enacted February 13, 2008) was an Act of Congress providing for several kinds of economic stimuli intended to boost the United States economy in 2008 and to avert a recession, or ameliorate economic conditions. The stimulus package was passed by the U.S. House of Representatives on January 29, 2008...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Stimulus_Act_of_2008

 

Quack Waddle, the RINOcRATcy in full steam ahead mode.

Woops!

"Bush Says Wall Street 'Got Drunk,' Needs to Sober Up"

The moral of the story? 

RINOs who party in glass houses shouldn't throw stones unless they're willing to tear the whole shambles down - and rebuild it according to the Architect's original specifications: "TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men".

[FromTheSidelines]

Well, I guess you can’t answer the question, so go ahead and continue your off-topic rant. Too bad that such action is now considered acceptable by some Conservatives; the logic and reason of Buckley and Reagan is a dying breed, I guess...

[MontaniSemperLiberi]

He has as much influence today as he did then. Nada.

Flapping lips are invited to TV to make controversy on air. His vote didn’t count for a thing and Tea Party people have been beat over the head with “We don’t have the votes” for the past eight months. If it’s true for us, it’s true for them.

[LomanBill]

The answer to your question was answered by W himself:

 

"Bush Says Wall Street 'Got Drunk,' Needs to Sober Up"

 

Whose watch was that on?  Game, set,  "ICE BERG AHEAD CAPTAIN", match.

 

It only serves to further illustrate the poor character of the RINOtards running The Party(tm) when they keep trying to pull the curtain back over their own responsibility in this debacle.

 

But, that is the nature of the RINOcrat.

[MontaniSemperLiberi]

My basic facts?

Ha. That’s funny. Or it would be if the world didn’t contain people who absolved Bush of his responsibility.

Bush’s FY09 continuing resolution lasted until April of 2009. Also TARP was his too. Does Obama get blamed for TARP too?

The graph is clear that congress may pass spending bills pertaining to the current fiscal year. No one blames the Obama stimulus on Bush. No one credits the Bush tax cuts to Clinton even though they started in FY01. FY09 clearly lies on the dividing line between Bush and Obama and I think most sane human beings would understand it.

Stating there is some problem with culpability shown by the graph should be beneath a FReeper.

[MontaniSemperLiberi]

Oh you mean the THREATENED filibuster. That’s not what you said.

Filibusters cannot be used on budget matters and all of DeMint’s threatened filibusters haven’t moved the Senate one inch. I think it’s a lame excuse to make for Republicans. Conservatives don’t make excuses for Republicans.

[MontaniSemperLiberi]

I know. Give them time. It’s human nature to blame all mistakes on the other team.

[FromTheSidelines]

A threatened filibuster is as effective as an actual filibuster.

As far as budgetary filibusters, this wasn’t about a budget - it was about rework of the mortgage industry.

[FromTheSidelines]

Accepting the graph as it stands, and using it for justification of for why “Bush was bad” is not just disingenuous, but unethical. But you go right on ahead with that...

[FromTheSidelines]

Again: how does what you wrote relate to FY2009’s budget? Please...

[LomanBill]

"Uhhh, that's not ours either..." --Weiner, Bush, Perry, Pelosie, Obama, Frank, Brown, and Associates (LLLP)

 

 

 

 

[MontaniSemperLiberi]

Disingenuous and unethical? DUmmies aren’t allowed on this board, I don’t think.

The financial crash happened in September of 2008. TARP was signed into law October 2008. The continuing resolution for the first six months of FY2009 was signed into law by Bush. There is nothing disingenuous and unethical about that graph.

You’ve lost the argument. Don’t make it worse by calling people liars.

[LomanBill]

>>is not just disingenuous, but unethical.

The kettle is black?

That’s funny, coming from the “Fithcally Conthervative” RINOpots.

Why don’t you RINOtards man-up, take responsibility, and drive on to better days instead of continuing this ridiculously embarrassing “uhhhhh that’s not OUR Godfather ambassador” charade?

If you can’t pull some integrity out of your vapid empty souls, then maybe you deserve to wander for another 4 years in the Kenyan’s desert.

[Sons of Union Vets]

See my post at #9.

I am more than willing to concede that corrupt RINO's have been a problem and that while Bush, for the most part, was a social conservative, he was not necessarily a dyed-in-the-wool fiscal conservative.

But even if Bush was not necessarily a fiscal conservative, I would take him any day to what we are stuck with now.

[Sons of Union Vets]

Did the Democrats steal Bush’s Veto Pen?

In a sense they did on a few occasions vis a vis some significant veto overrides.

Senator Feinstein Praises Senate’s Vote to Override Bush Veto on Water Resources Development Act (WRDA) (November, 2007) http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=216cf99b-bfd0-2fbb-47dc-6eafb37a77b1

Food Conservation and Energy Act of 2008 ...veto overridden by House on May 21, and Senate on May 22.

May 23, 2008 - Senate vote overrides Bush veto of farm bill. With an 82-13 vote http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004433501_watch23.html

July 15, 2008 - Congress overrides Bush's Medicare veto http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/07/15/us-bush-medicare-idUSN1529466020080715

[Sons of Union Vets]

WHOSE POLICIES LED TO THE CREDIT CRISIS

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/whose-policies-led-to-the-credit-crisis/

[A.Hun]

Bush’s FY09 continuing resolution lasted until April of 2009.

The only one GWB signed continued the funding of emergency relief, the Department of Defense, and the Department of Homeland Security.

All the other continuing resolutions and the omnibus bill were signed by Obama.

Status of Appropriations Legislation for Fiscal Year 2009

The TARP program nearly paid for itself, adding less than 50 billion to the deficit, and most of that, Obama gave to GM and Chrysler.

Your basic facts are wrong, the huge increases in the 2009 budget were the responsibility of the Democrats alone.