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Va. Dems Attack Palin on Criticism of D.C. Suburbs (Struck dogs yelp)
The Hill ^ | Tuesday, September 6, 2011 | Justin Sink

Posted on 09/06/2011 3:17:38 PM PDT by kristinn

Virginia Democrats are using part of Sarah Palin's weekend speech — in which the former governor of Alaska criticized the D.C. area and its "permanent political class" as unsympathetic to the country's economic woes — to attack Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and GOP Senate candidate George Allen.

“Her ridiculous comments about Northern Virginia are just further proof of what people already know: Sarah Palin doesn't understand what Virginia families are going through, and she doesn't care," said Virginia Democratic spokesman Brian Coy. "It shouldn't be difficult for any Virginian to condemn her absurd rhetoric, particularly for people like George Allen and Bob McDonnell, both of whom have lived in Northern Virginia and have spent much of their lives in Virginia politics.”

In her speech, Palin argued that those in favor of shrinking the size and scope of government would need to battle entrenched forces in the D.C. metro area that were unsympathetic to the recession.

"They don't feel the same urgency that we do," Palin said. "But why should they? For them, business is good. Business is very good. Seven of the 10 wealthiest suburbs are suburbs of Washington, D.C."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allen2012; mcdonnell; palin; projection; sarahpalin; va2012; virginia
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To: Carling

“It’s pure demonizing.”

Hey, Carling - you need to get a life. The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!!!


21 posted on 09/06/2011 3:50:56 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Jess79; Carling

I’m just not a big fan of Sarah Palin’s variation of the class warfare blame game that Obama plays every day.

You’re not a big fan of Sarah Palin - period. Nothing else needs to be said.

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Class warfare nothing. It’s about who’s at the government teat getting an easy ride at the expense of everyone else, and who ain’t.


22 posted on 09/06/2011 3:53:49 PM PDT by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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To: kristinn

If the shoe fits...


23 posted on 09/06/2011 3:56:53 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ROTB

I think its a legitimate question to ask.

What product is being produced that is producing the wealth?

Stossel actually brings that question home when he speaks about Microsoft. Before being dragged into congressional investigations and harassment, they didn’t spend a dime on lobbyists. Today they spend $100 million on lobbyists every year. There’s something really filthy about that.


24 posted on 09/06/2011 4:02:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Palin is dead on calling this area out. The fact that this is all the Rats can whine about in her speech shows they are in trouble. Good luck defending these over payed Gov’t employees to a country at 9+% unemployment. Here are 2010 stats on the richest suburbs of DC.

Sort of. But in doing so she's completely oversimplifying the economic drivers of the DC area (which I've lived and worked in for 20+ years).

Direct government $$$ flow into the local economies provides stability, security and cushioning in bad economic ties. But it doesn't create the kind of over-the-top wealth that Palin seems to be criticizing. Government money should be seen as a solid economic anchor and floor/foundation for the region.

The $$$ that pushes the local economies up to levels not seen elsewhere comes from the "new economy" industries that have grown up in the area. Specifically biotech in Maryland and information technology in NoVA. Nationally, biotech - anything health care related, actually - is very much a growth industry, and IT, although having cooled from the dot-com hayday, is still a very strong industry.

ANY area that has significant players in these two industries is going to be doing well. Consider that a "flyover" state like Kentucky is having its economy bolstered significantly by the success of it's locally-based health industry companies, like Humana. Then look at the economic "stimulus" that successful IT companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft pump into their bases in Washington State and California.

Then, on top of the new economy $$$, you have the "old money" pockets in the area (like out in VA's "horse country" - Loudoun/Middleburg) that continue to drive not insignificant economic growth.

So, in reading this, I tend to agree with the posting above that Palin is going a bit over the top in her class-warfare rhetoric. It's got a smidgeon of truth, and plays well to the masses, but lacks a lot of accuracy and doesn't stand up well under detailed scrutiny.
25 posted on 09/06/2011 4:03:35 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Carling

DC suburbs are the only part of America that did not suffer from the democrat created recession. Housing prices and salaries rose. The recession was an economic boom. The 6 trillion stolen from the homes of average Americans leveraged a massive infusion of wealth to the federal middlemen mediating the carefully crafted crisis.


26 posted on 09/06/2011 4:04:49 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Carling

Did you actually see the speech? I’m pretty sure Sarah never said the word Virginia. The CONTEXT in which she made her comments about 7 of 10 of the richest districts being suburbs of DC was to point out the the permanent political class of both parties talk endlessly about problems in DC but never do anything about them because they are too busy protecting each other and the empire they have built (to the detriment of the rest of us). If you want to view her calling them out negatively, go for it.


27 posted on 09/06/2011 4:08:10 PM PDT by Jess79
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To: tanknetter

And their proximity to NIH and the Pentagon is strictly coincidental, right?


28 posted on 09/06/2011 4:16:10 PM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: lonestar67

Texas also experienced both growth and rising home prices.

Plus, I’m not saying it isn’t true, but it is a variation class warfare. Obama is an expert at it, and I don’t like seeing Sarah Palin take this easy way out for applause lines. What is her solution to the problem she raises in her speeches?


29 posted on 09/06/2011 4:19:19 PM PDT by Carling (DeMint to Obama: I want to read the bill, not listen to talking points off a TelePrompter.)
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To: lonestar67

In a real sense its the home of our permanent unelected government.

I’d love to find a searchable database to find where people like Jamie Gorelick, Sandy Burger, and other notables live.


30 posted on 09/06/2011 4:19:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: lonestar67

I grew up in Fairfax and have many relatives and friends from back there and yes, their businesses have grown stronger, restaurants open, cars are flying off the lots and real estate agents are seeing multiple bids over asking for areas with good schools.

Government workers have grown in number and in pay...and their retirements allow most of them to remain in their homes for 10-20 years before truly downsizing into an apartment or nursing home/assisted living facility.

Wasting $5 trillion in borrowed money has to end up somewhere, and typcially Montgomery, PG, Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun and the District end up the happy recipients of North Dakota’s or Mississippi’s portion of the national debt.


31 posted on 09/06/2011 4:21:46 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: tanknetter

I respect your opinion and vantage point. But you seem to have conveniently ignored the unprecedented (The One’s favorite word, no?) expansion of the Federal leviathan that has occurred over the last 3 years. Record expansions in all Fed depts (except the military, of course). Record expansions in salaries. Even in limousines, for Pete’s sake!
This is more than the “baseline floor” you referred to. The explosion in #s of federal employees, their increased salaries and their prime benefit packages all affect the regional economy (they spend their $ somewhere).
Palin, IMHO, was only trying to point out that the feds, via expropriating $ from the rest of us as well as printing more $ when that runs out, have created a personal environment for themselves that is in stark contrast to most of the rest of the country. And, yes, one can find pockets of growth in other areas around certain industries. But those folks aren’t making policy for us. When the policy makers create an environment for themselves that is significantly more lucrative than that of their “subjects”, one can rightfully argue that they might be a bit removed from the reality that their policies are creating.
I believe it’s a valid argument and is NOT, as you branded it, “class warfare”. She never said they are evil for making a great living. Her point was they are detached from what is going on outside their local world and also that - by expanding the leviathan - their policies are, in part, formulated to perpetuate their very comfortable situations. I don’t believe that one can argue that there is a “permanent political class” that always seems to take care of themselves but frequently is tone-deaf to the rest of us.


32 posted on 09/06/2011 4:35:17 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Stafford County

Population: 120,219 (2008)
Median Household Income: $90,586 (2011, 15th in the nation)
Percent of Residents 25 or Older with Bachelor's Degree or Higher: 36%

33 posted on 09/06/2011 4:35:24 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: cripplecreek
Why are these suburbs so wealthy?

Did you notice the educational level?

Of course, it's not only that; these counties are populated by high-level government employees and the infamous Beltway Bandits (those in the private sector who have lucrative government contracts).

34 posted on 09/06/2011 4:40:48 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: kristinn

I lived in the DC area as a kid. It is true that recessions don’t touch DC. They are government workers and special interest workers, government contractors (especially defense) and their dough rolls in no matter what “fly over country” is going through. They have steady a base of wealth.

This is why our elected officials lose contact with the rest of the country so fast. Nothing makes sense to them at home while they live in a permanent state of economic comfort - at fly over’s expense.


35 posted on 09/06/2011 5:06:11 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Carling

I agree. She was up the Lead Lacky’s you know what in the last election, too. She’s a slick talker.

She also went for McLame’s/Gore’s global warming agenda, too. That was before she denounced the Supremes for striking down “hate speech” laws when those laws were directed at banning the speech she hates - the anti-war freaks protesting at funerals. She does not have the sense to understand that the Left would use a decision like that to ban the hate speech they hate... Or maybe she does.

She’s either stupid or a socialist, in my opinion.


36 posted on 09/06/2011 5:13:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: kristinn
And their proximity to NIH and the Pentagon is strictly coincidental, right?

Biotech, sure. But I think we'd all be hard pressed to justify NOT having a significant private-sector biotech presence in close proximity to NIH. The synergies in research and development make such highly desirable. Just because proximity to the government provides the seed for successful growth, doesn't mean that the growth is being accomplished off of the public teat.

As to IT in NoVA, we really need to thank the Conservative, Reaganesque, pro-growth policies of Governors Allen (R) and Gilmore (R) that provided tax and other incentives that resulted in NoVA (and particularly the Dulles Corridor) earning the nickname "Silicon Valley of the East". These are the exact kinds of policies that Conservatives have been championing for DECADES now, and if anything Palin should be pointing to them as great examples of how Conservative economic-growth policies successfully work.
37 posted on 09/06/2011 5:17:42 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Carling
In defense of Mrs Palin it is obvious that she does not 'play the class warfare game'.
In her emphasis on DC suburbs she was referring to those areas occupied not by John and Jane Doe but rather by Senators, Congressmen, high level White House staff, lobbyists, etc etc.
I reside in the ol' Dominion I took no offense whatsoever at her words. Actually I concurred with the lady.
38 posted on 09/06/2011 5:27:45 PM PDT by jla
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To: nuvista
I respect your opinion and vantage point. But you seem to have conveniently ignored the unprecedented (The One’s favorite word, no?) expansion of the Federal leviathan that has occurred over the last 3 years. Record expansions in all Fed depts (except the military, of course). Record expansions in salaries. Even in limousines, for Pete’s sake! This is more than the “baseline floor” you referred to. The explosion in #s of federal employees, their increased salaries and their prime benefit packages all affect the regional economy (they spend their $ somewhere).

The question then for me is, where is the "record expansion" of the Federal workforce really taking place?

For instance TSA, an agency that didn't exist 10 years ago, has about 50,000 screeners that (mostly) weren't Federal employees 10 years ago.

Now, we can discuss (and, I assume, agree on) the problems with TSA as a separate issue. But in terms of how the growth of the Federal government has enhanced the economy o the DC region it's hard to make a case that TSA's growth really played a role ... because the vast majority of those screeners aren't deployed to the three DC-area airports.

Can the same be said, therefore of the other areas (ICE, CBP, FBI) where the Federal government has experienced record growth? My guess is that it could, and we'd find that a heck of a lot of the growth is happening in various agency/dept field offices outside the DC area.
39 posted on 09/06/2011 5:29:57 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Carling

Home prices declined everywhere except DC— including Texas.

Study of a variety of indicators shows a shocking acceleration of affluence in DC SINCE 2008.

It makes perfect sense for everyone in DC to say the stimulus has worked flawlessly. The harsh recession has been a beautiful economic bounty for the dc area.

I can’t really fathom how this is some insult to Virginia. The polar reality of this brazen theft is apparent even in that state. The explosion of blue suburbs around d.c. Was thought to have permanently insulated the democratic establishment of the state. The larger rural sections of Virginia dismissed like so many other flyover Neanderthals rose up in a revolt. The blue suburbs were caught flat footed and overwhelmed.


40 posted on 09/06/2011 6:00:59 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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