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Those payments were directly connected to their own retirement. So many quarters, so much pay, a certain level of retirement guaranteed

the lie and theft has occured from day one...no contract or binding features, simply a politicians greasy smile and *promise*...

the thieves are still runnin the same con, this many years later...and no, the retirees of today didnt concoct the scheme, but my kids didnt steal their money either...

we cant dig up FDR and hang him for treason, but we *could* do so for those who still have functional necks...

the ploy of SS wasn another of the tactics to divide and conquer the USA...it worked as intended by those who proposed it, and it worked as intended, as a slush fund for all kinds of graft and goodies for every politician since...

our rhetoric is dicey today, because theres no easy answers to 'fix' SS...the music has stopped, and there aint enuff chairs for everyone, but i'll be damned if my children are gonna be burdened for several trillion, before they ever have a choice in the matter...

they didnt steal the cash, why should they pay...???

Those payments were directly connected to their own retirement. So many quarters, so much pay, a certain level of retirement guaranteed

the lie and theft has occured from day one...no contract or binding features, simply a politicians greasy smile and *promise*...

I don't disagree with that.

the thieves are still runnin the same con, this many years later...and no, the retirees of today didnt concoct the scheme, but my kids didnt steal their money either...

Yes, we have a new set of players in there who are extending the same con on into the future. Once again, we have another issue that did not get addressed from January 2001 to December 2006, when the Republicans held the White House, the House, and the Senate. And people wonder why I have expressed anger at Bush and the Republicans of those years.

You really do have to get over this 'stealing from my kids' thing. The parents of the retirees of today could have said the same thing. And if things don't get fixed between now and when your kids retire, the parents of their grand-kids could say the same thing then. That's how this misserable system has worked since day one. Those caught in it, are not evil. Those on the bottom rung today are being no more absued than today's retirees were when they were on the bottom rung.

we cant dig up FDR and hang him for treason, but we *could* do so for those who still have functional necks...

I think it's more productive to consider alternatives to what S.S. is today, and get some form of privitization implemented.

the ploy of SS wasn another of the tactics to divide and conquer the USA...it worked as intended by those who proposed it, and it worked as intended, as a slush fund for all kinds of graft and goodies for every politician since...

It did increase the available funds to be absconded with as soon as they came in. Here you do what I constantly find myself doing, referencing a 'slush fund' or 'S.S. pool of funds' or some other form of fund related to Social Security, even though it all goes into the same general fund everything else does.

our rhetoric is dicey today, because theres no easy answers to 'fix' SS...the music has stopped, and there aint enuff chairs for everyone, but i'll be damned if my children are gonna be burdened for several trillion, before they ever have a choice in the matter...

And becoming involved with an effort to fix this situation is to be admired. It is not to be admired to trash people whose careers are at an end, for playing by the same rules they were required to their entire working lives.

they didnt steal the cash, why should they pay...???

And the people who are retired now, didn't steal any cash either. A lot of money was taken from them over the years also.