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1 posted on 09/09/2011 8:05:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Unemployment is the No. 1 issue in America -- yet virtually all business people I talk to complain that they can't find the workers they want.

The problem I seem to find is my years of experience and past salary deter prospective employers from considering me. In a lot of cases, I know I fit the job description perfectly, but neither I nor the headhunters receive replies.

2 posted on 09/09/2011 8:11:46 AM PDT by edpc (Former Normalcy Bias Victim)
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That is why OBAMA wants to redistribute my money....look at any large city.....best example New Orleans after Kitrina


3 posted on 09/09/2011 8:13:03 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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Almost everyone I’ve interviewed for a programmer position couldn’t code themselves out of a paper bag.


4 posted on 09/09/2011 8:13:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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That is why OBAMA wants to redistribute my money....look at any large city.....best example New Orleans after Katrina


5 posted on 09/09/2011 8:13:43 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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As I’ve said before, the problem isn’t that not enough people have a chance to go to college. The problem is that not enough people are being given a quality education in elementary and high school.


6 posted on 09/09/2011 8:14:26 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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30% of the high school graduates who take the Armed Forces Qualification Test, a test of basic reading and math skills, fail it

Scary

When I took the ASVABs 20-odd years ago, they were pretty basic. I scored in the 95th plus percentile across the board and had recruiters beating down my door for awhile.

7 posted on 09/09/2011 8:17:18 AM PDT by wbill
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i do not believe that this is true. in fact, from personal experience, i think it’s about the money. with most jobs in the computer field paying 1/3 what they did 5-10 years ago it’s easy for the employer to say the worker does not have the credentials ... especially when they can outsource the position.

another fact ... the primo pharama company i just left is replacing all their US consultants with overseas consultants. and they are paying the offshore company the same rate/consultant that they were paying for US consultants.


8 posted on 09/09/2011 8:21:04 AM PDT by slickdain (america belongs to mexico)
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Government messes everything up.

They cannot make jobs.
They cannot educate people.
They cannot manage a national economy.

If the government would just stand down, we would have smarter people, more jobs and a thriving economy. But noooooooooooooooo!

10 posted on 09/09/2011 8:21:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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I call BS. Look if they can find Chinese workers to do the jobs, they can find Americans.


15 posted on 09/09/2011 8:29:16 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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No kidding. And HR shops aren’t helping: I’m constantly getting pinged on jobs that I simply lack the expertise and/or experience to do. Yes, I’m a very senior IT pro, but, as in any senior professional, my expertise is concentrated in certain areas.

Combine that with the general level of illiteracy and semi-literacy out there, and it’s a nightmare.

Example: I had a head-hunter actually argue with me, saying I had claimed to be a JAVA programmer. You tell me: the line he quoted said:

“Systems Administrator on a test and production JAVA development environment”.

Another thought I was a qualified software tester based on the same line. . .

We DEFINITELY need better than the average HR droid out there. . .


20 posted on 09/09/2011 8:30:38 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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No kidding. And HR shops aren’t helping: I’m constantly getting pinged on jobs that I simply lack the expertise and/or experience to do. Yes, I’m a very senior IT pro, but, as in any senior professional, my expertise is concentrated in certain areas.

Combine that with the general level of illiteracy and semi-literacy out there, and it’s a nightmare.

Example: I had a head-hunter actually argue with me, saying I had claimed to be a JAVA programmer. You tell me: the line he quoted said:

“Systems Administrator on a test and production JAVA development environment”.

Another thought I was a qualified software tester based on the same line. . .

We DEFINITELY need better than the average HR droid out there. . .


21 posted on 09/09/2011 8:30:50 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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Young American workers can still stagger us with their abilities. But so many have fallen behind the demands of a modern economy that they can't get jobs. The problem won't be fixed quickly. Mission: Readiness calls for more and better early education, which is indeed highly effective -- but we won't see results for 15 or 20 years.

I don't have much hope for the next generation, because they'll be raised by the young adults of today.

27 posted on 09/09/2011 8:39:40 AM PDT by Tea Party Hobbit (The RINOs lack all conviction, and the Dems are full of passionate intensity)
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Report: "The mystery begins to clear up after taking a close look at the state of U.S. workers, especially young workers, who have the highest unemployment rate of all; among those aged 16 to 19, it's 25%"

Response: This age group keeps "popping up.! Kids in this age group should be in school and not working. Of course they should have a high unemployment rate!

34 posted on 09/09/2011 8:50:11 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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We own an HVAC company and are willing to train so folks can move up. We have gone through many new hires in the last year, who only last a few days to a few months. The two problems we see are laziness and dishonesty. We have never seen so much employee theft in our lives. And in this economy we are shocked at how many folks just decide not to come to work because they are “tired, bored, want to go hunting or skiing, etc.” The “skill gap” is fairly easy to fix. The “ethics gap” is not.


47 posted on 09/09/2011 9:09:36 AM PDT by keepitreal ( Good manners never go out of style)
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Too out of shape to join the military, at that age cohort, is too out of shape for any sane company to want to hire you.

They do have to pay your health care costs.

Unintended consequence - smokers and fatties (and especially fat smokers) are S.O.L. when looking for employment in a down economy.


49 posted on 09/09/2011 9:12:42 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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“First is inadequate education. About one-quarter of the cohort haven’t graduated from high school, and about 30% of the high school graduates who take the Armed Forces Qualification Test, a test of basic reading and math skills, fail it.”

I know that several service branches don’t want homeschoolers (they consider their diplomas less than prime) but homeschoolers are often conservatives raised to respect the armed forces, and want to serve. So the services basically cut off a huge pool right there.


50 posted on 09/09/2011 9:15:16 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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(REALITY: Many job applicants just aren’t qualified)
Who is at fault the teacher or the stoner?.


54 posted on 09/09/2011 9:22:17 AM PDT by Vaduz
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I won’t say that my company is typical....but in our IT department, there are relatively few people under the age of 40. My hunch is that since newer languages like Java and .NET have been around for awhile now, and many of those who have been working with them now are over 40, companies are not as hung up on age with IT personnel as before, in fact, I suspect people over 40 might actually now be preferable.


55 posted on 09/09/2011 9:23:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Okay...after reading through the thread we know this:

A)Companies are seemingly NOT wanting to hire people who are Americans.
B)Of those that are interviewed, it seems that many Americans aren’t qualified for the jobs that are out there.

Now...the question that I haven’t seen an answer to....

HOW DO WE FIX THIS?

I have seen a lot of folks complaining, but I haven’t seen answers. I KNOW you have them, so what are they?

(This isn’t an indictment of fellow FReepers...I’m just wondering what the solutions might be.)


57 posted on 09/09/2011 9:26:27 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers”~Sarah Louise Palin)
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it is EXTREMELY COMMON to find candidates with school training and but clearly no competence for the job.


65 posted on 09/09/2011 11:02:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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