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Teachers union president says Mayor Emanuel ‘exploded’ at her (Teachers not make enough)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | September 9,2011 | ROSALIND ROSSI

Posted on 09/09/2011 1:21:56 PM PDT by Hojczyk

The president of the Chicago Teachers Union says Mayor Rahm Emanuel “exploded” at her during a debate over a longer school day, pointing his finger in her face, yelling and cursing.

However, Lewis, the CTU and its parent union, the Illinois Federation of Teachers were conspicuously absent from Friday’s event featuring key players in passing Illinois new school reform bill. All had been invited.

Duncan took the opportunity to tell a crowd of mostly officials and reporters that “teachers have been beaten down too long” and “I think we need to double the salaries for teachers... Great teachers should make $130,000, $140,000, $150,000. They shouldn’t have to wait to age 55 to make a good living. They shouldn’t have to take a vow of poverty.”

The teachers union on Thursday filed its first major legal salvo in the battle over a longer school day as Lewis charged that district brass and the mayor had “declared war’’ on the union through an illegal campaign to bypass it.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: emanuel; teachers; teachersunion; union
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To: Hojczyk

How about we cut their salaries in half and send rebate checks out to property owners?


41 posted on 09/09/2011 3:21:07 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GonzoGOP
They are beginning to eat their own.


42 posted on 09/09/2011 3:22:21 PM PDT by moovova
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
For 9 months work? Plus, they would argue that ‘great teachers’ = ‘unionized teachers’.

If the market thought their services were so desired - then more power to them.
But I understand they have no desire to turn an individual (in this case a teacher) into an entrepreneur. They just want slaves on their Government Union plantation.
I just wanted to point out their hypocrisy. If they really desired higher compensation for "great" teachers - they'd push for a merit based system -- i.e., the Free Market (one free from the Government plantation). But they don't. They want free money from the money tree.

43 posted on 09/09/2011 3:24:19 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: kearnyirish2
Perfect post.

We pay brutal property taxes every year in NJ for four reasons:

To pay teachers 100K to babysit our kids while filling their heads with unchallenging liberal mush.
To pay policemen 100K to sit around all day, hit on teenagers and write tickets.
To pay firemen 100K to sit around all day, hit on teenagers and "fight" a kitchen fire once a year or so.
To pay township officials 250K to coordinate all the abovementioned activity.

90% of the country may have jobs, but maybe 50% actually work.

44 posted on 09/09/2011 3:36:19 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Wiser now

Great teachers should get paid that much.

Poor ones should be canned. Pay teachers what the market is willing to pay.


45 posted on 09/09/2011 3:53:15 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: Hojczyk

Rahm’s acting like a fiscal conservative and a social liberal


46 posted on 09/09/2011 3:55:58 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama..."Fredo-Smart")
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To: Hojczyk

NO teachers should not make that kind of money especially when they turn out kids who can barely read!


47 posted on 09/09/2011 5:07:57 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: wideawake

You’re right; now that the chickens have come to home to roost, many of those people (in all categories) are being let go at a time when nobody needs them (at least in the northeast) - they simply cost too much, with little appreciable results. Paid firemen aren’t very common in NJ when you leave the urban areas, but those departments that are paid fiercely resist any regionalization or anything else that might alleviate the burden on the taxpayers. The recent police layoffs in the news (1/3 of some departments) have left older, more costly/less effective cops on the job, and in some school districts all non-tenured teachers have already been let go, causing them to start eating into the youngest/newest tenured positions for layoffs.


48 posted on 09/09/2011 8:18:01 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

They have no means of funding the current services they “require”, never mind the inherited liabilities caused by the gubmint retirees (most of whom flee the expensive dump they created - parasites leaving a dying host).

It is amazing where the liberal/progressive agenda is in full swing, good people leave and they leave behind potential Detroits. When will people wake up and realize.


49 posted on 09/12/2011 6:11:38 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: Hojczyk

The little ballet dancer needs anger management courses. Or maybe because he IS just a ballet dancer that makes him so angry.


50 posted on 09/12/2011 6:13:57 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: Wiser now

That’s OK. Obama is busy pushing the income of doctors down to that of teachers. So I guess it evens out. / sadly not sarcasm


51 posted on 09/12/2011 6:14:48 AM PDT by Mom MD (The country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Tammy8

Teachers have 4 years of post hs education. I have 8 plus a 3 yr residency. Lawyers have at least 7. Tell me again why a teacher should make as much as I do?

And that’s without considering I frequently put in 80 hour weeks, work nights weekends and holidays and don’t get summers off. Sorry, I’m not buying that teachers should be compensated at the same rate. BTW, how much do teachers pay for malpractice insurance?


52 posted on 09/12/2011 6:22:45 AM PDT by Mom MD (The country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Mom MD

Few teachers can stop their education after 4 years, many do have as many years of education as lawyers and doctors. As to the work load the excellent teachers do put in a lot of hours. I know several teachers who do not take summers off either, it’s called summer school. When I said teachers should be paid a professional salary I did not mean they should get the same for working less than other professionals. If you scaled your practice back to match the average teacher’s schedule I am sure your income would drop.

My thinking on this is the people we trust with our children’s education should be considered professionals and paid accordingly.

I also noted that I think the entire education system needs to be re-invented before I would consider teachers worthy of larger salaries. As it is now we would just be paying mostly sorry teachers more than we do now for more poor performance.

As for malpractice insurance, smart teachers do carry insurance in case they are accused of molestation or some other form of abuse. The costs may not equate but teaching is not as simple as it once was. Doctors in the past didn’t pay so much for malpractice either and there was a time when it wasn’t required.

I also wonder how you could have achieved what you have without teachers along the way...


53 posted on 09/12/2011 6:02:13 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

I didn’t say teachers aren’t important. I just take issue with placing them on the same level as doctors and lawyers. Two entirely different things. And I have little use for the thugs running the teachers unions.


54 posted on 09/12/2011 8:54:55 PM PDT by Mom MD (The country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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