The Green Jobs Numbers

New York Times ^ | September 12, 2011 | By NANCY FOLBRE

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Media Matters, a nonprofit watchdog group, has documented a Fox News report proclaiming that the costs of green jobs exceed the benefits. A recent New York Times article, pointing to lackluster programs in California, concluded that “public efforts to stimulate creation of green jobs have largely failed.” A column by David Brooks in The New York Times was pointedly titled “Where the Jobs Aren’t.”

In reaching for bipartisan support in his jobs speech on Thursday, President Obama avoided the word “green” altogether.

But green jobs still hold considerable promise. While it’s not hard to find examples of programs that haven’t lived up to expectations, considerable evidence demonstrates the actual and potential employment impact of efforts to improve environmental sustainability.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Nancy Folbre is an economics professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

[ETL]

Obama's former "Green Jobs Czar", Van Jones, links "Green Movement" to revolutionary communist movement!

See "Goal is complete revolution" below...

VAN JONES (Obama's former 'Green Jobs Czar')

YouTube:
"Valerie Jarrett, Senior Advisor to President Obama, speaks [lovingly] about Green Job Czar, Van Jones, at the Netroots Convention on August 12, 2009. Then Van Jones speaks about [a COMMUNIST] transforming [of] the whole society."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnDxzvc0OXk&feature=related
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"Jones was the leader and founder of a radical group, the communist revolutionary organization Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM. That group, together with Jones' Elle Baker Center for Human Rights, led a vigil Sept. 12, 2001, at Snow Park in Oakland, Calif.

STORM's official manifesto, titled, "Reclaiming Revolution," surfaced on the Internet."--via TheObamaFile
http://www.leftspot.com/blog/files/docs/STORMSummation.pdf
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VAN JONES SHOCK ADMISSION [in his own words]: "Goal is Complete Revolution"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh4Z0V0zNQg
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Here is the transcript of the above YouTube video:

“Right after Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat if the civil rights leaders had jumped out and said OK now we want reparations for Slavery, we want redistribution of all the wealth, and we want to legalize mixed marriages. If we’d come out with a maximum program the very next day, they’d been laughed at. Instead they came out with a very minimum. “We just want to integrate these busses…”

But, inside that minimum demand was a very radical kernel that eventually meant that from 1964 to 1968 complete revolution was on the table for this country.

And, I think that this green movement has to pursue those same steps and stages.

Right now we say we want to move from suicidal gray capitalism to something eco-capitalism where at least we’re not fast-tracking the destruction of the whole planet. Will that be enough? No, it won’t be enough. We want to go beyond the systems of exploitation and oppression all together. But, that’s a process and I think that’s what’s great about the movement that is beginning to emerge is that the CRISIS is so severe in terms of joblessness, violence and now ecological threats that people are willing to be both pragmatic and visionary.

So the green economy will start off as a small subset and we are going to push it and push it and push it until it becomes the engine for transforming the whole society.

SOURCE for this transcript (it matches the video):
http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2009/09/02/van-jones-obamas-green-czar-%E2%80%98green-jobs%E2%80%99-goal-is-%E2%80%98complete-revolution%E2%80%99-away-from-%E2%80%98gray-capitalism%E2%80%99/
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Here's the original source for the Van Jones quote about the time he spent in jail following the Rodney King/LA riots (Jones was arrested in "peaceful" protests in San Fran). It was in a 2005 interview he did with East Bay Express. They of course (what else?) claim he "renounced his rowdy Black Nationalist ways" since then (yet he's calling for "complete revolution" in Aug 2009! ...see above):

But in jail, he said, "I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'" Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. "I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary." In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist."

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/the-new-face-of-environmentalism/Content?oid=1079539&showFullText=true
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The 1992 LA/Rodney King riots were instigated by the Revolutionary Communist Party...

From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:

"Throughout its history, one of RCP's [Revolutionary Communist Party] principal objectives has been to foment civil unrest in the United States. The most notable example of such efforts occurred on April 29, 1992, when RCP members looted and trashed the downtown and government districts of Los Angeles, triggering the infamous Rodney King riots. During the days immediately preceding the violence, RCP -- which maintained close ties to the L.A. gangs known as the Crips and the Bloods -- had circulated throughout South Central Los Angeles a leaflet featuring a statement by RCP National Spokesman Carl Dix, titled 'It's Right To Rebel' -- a quote popularized by Mao Zedong.

Encouraged by Dix, RCP activists helped lead the riots that would leave 58 people dead, more than 2,300 people injured, some 5,300 buildings burned, and $1 billion in property damaged or destroyed. On the ten-year anniversary of the rioting, RCP member Joseph Veale fondly recalled the violence as 'the most beautiful, the most heroic civil action in the history of the United States.'"
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6197

[Tulane]

Media Matters, a nonprofit watchdog group, has documented a Fox News
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I read that line and started laughing....yeah...Nancy has no agenda, I’m sure.

[pallis]

When green energy can compete with conventional energy, when something better comes along, the government won’t have to spend a fortune to make temporary jobs in an industry that doesn’t work.

[ETL]

Media Matters is a far left group funded by that evil SOB George Soros.

George Soros Gives Media Matters $1M to Thwart Fox News:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2010/10/george-soros-gives-media-matters-1m-to-thwart-fox-news/22598/

[andy58-in-nh]

"Media Matters, a nonprofit watchdog group..."

ROFLMAO. That's really rich; almost a perfect example of news media bias (and why no one takes the New York Times seriously any more, outside of Manhattan.

Media Matters is a left-wing issue advocacy group, funded both directly by George Soros and also by other left-wing organizations both affiliated with, and funded by Soros. This fact is so widely-known, even among the Times' readership, that the failure to make note of such affiliation is an insult to the intelligence of conservatives and Progressives alike.

[Tulane]

“Media Matters, a nonprofit watchdog group...”
ROFLMAO. That’s really rich; almost a perfect example of news media bias (and why no one takes the New York Times seriously any more, outside of Manhattan.

Media Matters is a left-wing issue advocacy group, funded both directly by George Soros and also by other left-wing organizations both affiliated with, and funded by Soros. This fact is so widely-known, even among the Times’ readership, that the failure to make note of such affiliation is an insult to the intelligence of conservatives and Progressives alike.
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It’s unreal, isn’t it? Next it will be, “The Democratic National Committee, a nonprofit watchdog group that helps the poor, minority, women, babies, puppies and kittens...”

[andy58-in-nh]

...an economics professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

UMass/Amherst? That's almost as funny as the howler about Media Matters being a "non-profit watchdog". I think the entrance exam for ZooMass is a best-of three game of beer pong.

[BobP]

Drill baby, drill!

[FlingWingFlyer]

Media Matters. ROTFL!!! What a joke. I guess no one would pay any attention if they used George Soros and the DNC.

[ThirstyMan]

"Globally, the green jobs numbers look pretty strong. Unfortunately, in the United States, the possibilities for bipartisan collaboration still look very weak. Flag-waving is so much easier."

Forcing the "green agenda" hasn't worked globally either, who is she kidding? In Spain the 2008 sale price of photo-voltaic electicity was 7 times the cost of the existing pool. Governments already in financial trouble, are reeling from the burden of this industry (quite apart from flag waving).

http://www.juandemariana.org/pdf/090327-employment-public-aid-renewable.pdf

from this study:
"The latter factor is an important one for U.S. policymakers to consider as they expressly seek to replicate superficial tales of the European – and specifically Spanish – experience with renewable energy policy regimes by seeking to artificially force massive growth."

It's pathetic when just a tiny bit of research is needed to repudiate their points completely!

[Eldon Tyrell]

How could anyone send their kid to that school after reading this nonsense?

Her Leftist world view is so vital to her - that she diregards basic math - additon and subtraction. She is unable to differentiate between data sources - biased vs reasonable.

She is - basically - clueless. A thoughtleader who is thought less.

[ETL]

Van Jones, Comrade Obama's former Green Jobs Czar...

"inside that minimum demand was a very radical kernel that eventually meant that from 1964 to 1968 complete revolution was on the table for this country.

And, I think that this green movement has to pursue those same steps and stages.

Right now we say we want to move from suicidal gray capitalism to something eco-capitalism where at least we’re not fast-tracking the destruction of the whole planet. Will that be enough? No, it won’t be enough. We want to go beyond the systems of exploitation and oppression all together. But, that’s a process and I think that’s what’s great about the movement that is beginning to emerge is that the CRISIS is so severe in terms of joblessness, violence and now ecological threats that people are willing to be both pragmatic and visionary.

So the green economy will start off as a small subset and we are going to push it and push it and push it until it becomes the engine for transforming the whole society."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh4Z0V0zNQg

[ETL]

"We are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America"
--B.H.Obama, 2008

Yahoo search results for "Fundamentally Transforming The United States Of America":
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35&p=%22Fundamentally+Transforming+The+United+States+Of+America%22&SpellState=n-2204099546_q-bsN.LA3I3%2F%2FdGaQgkeauogAAAA%40%40&fr2=sp-top
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"This president can be a transformative leader (he has that potential in my view), but only if he embraces and fights for a transformative agenda."--Sam Webb, Chairman Communist Party USA

Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling:
http://cpusa.org/obama-state-of-the-union-he-got-the-ball-rolling

[ETL]

Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling:
http://cpusa.org/obama-state-of-the-union-he-got-the-ball-rolling

[ETL]

"Barack Obama told supporters that
'change has come to America' as he
claimed victory in a historic presidential election."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/election.president/index.html

[ETL]

From the website of the Communist Party, USA...
(prior to the election)

"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.

The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."

http://cpusa.org/cpusa-2008-electoral-policy/
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After the election....

A Landslide Mandate For Change

A breakthrough election
Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!

We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-people’s movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all people’s movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.

The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and people’s unity.

There are thousands of experiences that we all have had in these momentous days, some large, some small, all of which express the enormity of change in thinking and readiness for involvement that is underway and that steels us for the battles ahead.

The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in.

http://cpusa.org/a-landslide-mandate-for-change-report-to-the-national-committee-meeting-11-15-08/
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July 1, 2009...

Change is Here, Change is Coming

Sam Webb, National Chair, Communist Party, USA:

Let me begin with a simple observation: If the last 30 years were an era of reaction, then the coming decade could turn into an era of reform, even radical reform. Six months into the Obama presidency, I would say without hesitation that the landscape, atmosphere, conversation, and agenda have strikingly changed compared to the previous eight years.

In this legislative session, we can envision winning a Medicare-like public option and then going further in the years ahead.

We can visualize passing tough regulatory reforms on the financial industry, which brought the economy to ruin.

We can imagine the troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan while U.S. representatives participate in a regional process that brings peace and stability to the entire region.

In the current political climate, the expansion of union rights becomes a real possibility.

Much the same can be said about winning a second stimulus bill, and we sure need one, given the still-rising rate, and likely long term persistence, of unemployment.

Isn’t it possible in the Obama era to create millions of green jobs in manufacturing and other sectors of the economy in tandem with an attack on global warming?

Can’t we envision taking new strides in the long journey for racial and gender equality in this new era, marked at its beginning by the election of the first African American to the presidency?

And isn’t the overhaul of the criminal justice and prison system – a system steeped in racism – no longer pie-in-the sky, but something that can be done in the foreseeable future?

All these things are within reach now!

http://cpusa.org/change-is-here-change-is-coming/

[ETL]

"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek"-- BARACK OBAMA

[ETL]

Green Movement: Green on the outside, red on the inside.

[Red6]

There is a reason why she's a professor at a school. Lot's of good idea's and theories. lol

Green jobs are a leach to the rest of the economy. Green jobs as in many recycling programs, most of public transit and alternative energy can only exist when the government creates a framework of rules that mandate their use and compliance (a requirement that 20% of power come from alternative sources by a given date for example), subsidies and special tax games make these schemes economically viable... At the end of the day, those for whom a “real” market (supply and demand) exists pay for this ideologically driven games and they loose in international competitiveness or even reduce potential output for a given market because the cost curves are all skewed.

If we really want to get serious, we need to consider our tax code, regulatory framework and subsidies, to which all these green initiative are part of. If the government got out of the business of picking winners and losers, “green” would wither up and die, quickly.