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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #5 - Sep. 12, 2011 8pm/5pm: Tampa, FL (CNN)
2012 Election Central ^ | Sept. 12, 2011 | CNN/Tea Party Express

Posted on 09/12/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


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To: Irenic

You analyzed the candidates’ “looks”.

Every person you listed is a declared candidate - except for Palin.

Why that inconsistency?

What Palin is, is a commentator for Fox News. Among many other things she is, of course...not limiting it to that.

Fox News has told her she can’t be a candidate and work for them at the same time. Always she has given them the same answer...she is thinking about running but has not decided.


2,141 posted on 09/13/2011 6:43:33 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: McGavin999
Texas has decided that the kids who are going to school and want to be citizens should have the chance to do it. That’s their choice since the feds won’t do anything to help the situation.

These "kids" are illegal aliens who should not be provided with any taxpayer money, federal or state. There are over 4 million intending immigrants waiting their turn to enter the US. They have gone through all of the paperwork, including background checks and medical examinations. Many are children. They want to be citizens only they did it the legal way.

Plyler vs Doe forced us to accept illegals in K-12. It is bankrupting many schools and diminishing the quality of education. Texas is almost at the bottom of school performance levels, primarily due to the influx of illegals, most of whom speak little English.

There is a strong movement in Texas to repeal in-state tuition. Any time it is placed on the ballot, it loses. MD just passed in-state tuition thru its heavily Dem dominated legislature. Even in this very blue state, a popular, grassroots movement has placed it on the ballot in 2012 despite fierce opposition from La Raza and the ACLU. I bet the people vote it down. And if it were placed on the ballot in Texas it would be voted down.

I disliked Perry's response last night when he talked about people not liking other people's last names as the reason for their opposition to in-state tuition. It was shameless pandering and slandering. Perry is generous with other people's money. He spent most of his polticial life as a Dem. He will support an amnesty if he gets into the WH because he is under the delusion that it will get the Hispanic vote.

2,142 posted on 09/13/2011 6:47:26 AM PDT by kabar
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To: CharlesWayneCT
That is false.

The hell it is Charles.

I quoted the executive order issued by Perry.

Here it is: Executive Order RP65

Check parental rights. The language is exactly as I quoted.

2,143 posted on 09/13/2011 6:48:15 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: novemberslady

Bachmann and Romney!


2,144 posted on 09/13/2011 6:50:56 AM PDT by jilliane
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To: bvw

It SHOULDN’T go away soon. I believe this needs to be looked at and considered. Sarah Palin’s accepting the federal mandate in Alaska by taking tax money for Gardisil needs to be looked and considered. All the other things that were not good decisions by any of these politicians need to be looked at and considered. Then we go on. And THEN... we can expect it all to come around again during the general election and in theme and variation from now until eternity. Why shouldn’t we expect Rick Perry to get his vetting now on this? Surely you didn’t think the world was going to rock because a major politician was getting scrutinized. Vetting happens every day in real politics. Get over the drama, and get a life.


2,145 posted on 09/13/2011 6:51:15 AM PDT by casinva (IMAGINE: PERRY, PALIN, AND CAIN STANDING SIDE BY SIDE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Does that count as “pandemic”, or is that “rare and isolated”?

4000 women succumb to cervical cancer in a year Charles. 70% of those are related to HPV meaning 2800 women in America die from HPV related cervical cancer. More kids die from drowning. I note that you would be put your kids in lifevests every time they enter the water. Your right as a parent to do so without having to opt out or in. Here's some unsolicited advice though, teach them to swim.

You might also lock them in the basement since skin cancer kills 3 times as many Americans as HPV related cervical cancer. The point is to save lives, right Charles?

2,146 posted on 09/13/2011 6:57:36 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: DejaJude

Can you and I get one?


2,147 posted on 09/13/2011 6:57:47 AM PDT by Grunthor (If you are emotionally attached to any politician you are a light weight, a mental midget, a moron.)
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To: octex

Let’s try to unravel this point you made. Some of it is correct, some incorrect.

Yes, the border between Texas and Mexico is the Rio Grande River.

No, a fence is not built along the official border line...

It couldn’t be, number one, and people do get that.

The common border is common to both countries...the line has Texas and Mexico interests up and down its entire length. Neither country would have the right to build a fence along the exact common border with the other.

This is true even if the line is not down the middle of a river.

A border fence is a barrier you put up for a defensive reason. Where you place it is the closest to the border you can but as far away as needed to build it where it makes sense for your purpose.

Israel.

The fence for a certain number of miles in the San Diego area.

Other examples, I’m sure.


2,148 posted on 09/13/2011 6:59:11 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: McGruff
I'm not so sure facial expressions are a valid representation of what or who the candidate is.

If you go there just watch Bachman.She seldom if ever glances at any of the other candidates when they speak.Does that mean anything?I don't know. It may be a stretch.

2,149 posted on 09/13/2011 7:07:22 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rintense

Chances are good if we can put men on the moon we can probably tackle a border fence. If nothing else we can just copy what the Israelis have done. That ended 99% of their suicide bombings.


2,150 posted on 09/13/2011 7:09:31 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Irenic

Your analysis was mine to a T!


2,151 posted on 09/13/2011 7:29:14 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: swpa_mom

Well done, “conservatives”.

We have a man in the White House intent on destroying the economy and here we are, once again, in the circular firing squad.

The liberals are LOVING this. They don’t need to defend 9% unemployment, debt out of control, czars and everything else, all they need to do is point at “that” conservative, whoever she or he may be and say SEE? they’re bad, they did something 10, 15, 20 years ago that proves they can’t be president.

Why are we doing this? WHY?
_________________________________________

Well said! I kept thinking the same thing last night during the debate when each of the candidates took the bait offered by Wolf Blitzer to draw blood! I realize that they have their donors and supporters to make happy, but this nation has FAR MORE SERIOUS PROBLEMS to face.

I’m not sure I agree with Rush Limbaugh who says we have 14 months to save our nation. Yet, another 4 years of Obama is too frightening to contemplate. My goodness the Supreme Court alone is up for grabs to that Socialist if he gets another term!!!!!

Go ahead and flame me with high-minded principals, but I say this board needs to curtail the infighting, focus instead on the enemy, and then cast our votes for who we think can best keep Obama from winning another term. He’s the enemy.


2,152 posted on 09/13/2011 7:30:03 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: KansasGirl
[So more will come in and say “well, if we can sneak in and stick around for 3 years we get the benefits”.] "Only if you graduated from a high school in TX. You have to have graduated from a TX high school, been a resident for 3 years, and be working toward citizenship to qualify.

Thought this was worth repeating, since it seems to be lost in a lot of the back and forth. I see this as a situation in which the kids are at least trying to right the wrongs of their parents, by seeking legal citizenship after they were dragged here through no fault of their own instead of remaining underground and leeching off the system. If anything, IMO this isn't incentive for others to come here illegally, but for those who are here already (that we know aren't going to be deported no matter how much we demand it) to become legal citizens and contribute to the programs that they most likely used while they were growing up.

I also agree that it comes down to a states' right to deal with a state issue in the way that the People of that state want to deal with it. Good for Texas for listening to the voters, not like it is here in my state where the overlords in the state house constantly override the electorate!

2,153 posted on 09/13/2011 7:36:43 AM PDT by Taxachusan (I lurk, therefore I am.)
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To: editor-surveyor

So now you are kookie and uneducated when it comes to protecting your children? You must be a Ron Paul fan. Every year we hear at least one or two teenagers in our area alone die of meningitis because they did not have a vaccine, bet their parents may think different then you. And I guess those parents that opt out of cancer treatments for their kids are a bunch of brillance like yourself. As a result of that pharmaceutical witchcraft tens of thousands of lives have been saved through treatments, but somehow you find that offensive. Yes please educate me on that one.


2,154 posted on 09/13/2011 7:39:44 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: navymom1
Generally you are correct but truth is we have some months to pick a candidate to run against the worst socialist ever in office.

Even if we do spill some beans and give a few things away we shoudn't since when have the demrats ever run on truth? They always follow the same pattern regarding us. They lie their asses off about us and our candidates(its all Bush's fault) and then repeat the lie. We face that no matter what.

2,155 posted on 09/13/2011 7:40:41 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
That's just a little about Marco.

Thanks for the history. It'll be nice to see what sort of record he establishes. I'm looking forward to that.

2,156 posted on 09/13/2011 7:41:29 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
No problem.

We all are. Some think Senator/Governor/potus we shall see.

2,157 posted on 09/13/2011 7:46:31 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

They get benefits that LEGAL citizens don’t, thanks to Pander Perry. ReagAn signed a stupid bill granting amnesty to 2 million illegals, with the stipulation that the border would be enforced. Of course, this demonstrated weakness, allowing law-breakers to become citizens, opened the floodgates for tens of millions more. Perry is so bad on the issue that he criticized the tepid ARIZONA law. Yeah, HE is the answer! Best, Bob


2,158 posted on 09/13/2011 8:02:34 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: combat_boots

Don’t forget Juanita Broaddrick! And Elizabeth Ward Gracen! And Eileen Wellstone!


2,159 posted on 09/13/2011 8:04:47 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: CA Conservative

Actually, both of us are wrong. It stops two.

Gardasil has been used in prevention of two types of HPV infections, associated with approximately 70% of HPV cases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardasil


2,160 posted on 09/13/2011 8:15:02 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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