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Why Perry is beating Romney
CNN ^ | September 12, 2011 | Erick Erickson, Red State

Posted on 09/12/2011 2:41:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

(CNN) -- There is a lot of buzz about CNN's new poll that shows Rick Perry seemingly solidifying his lead among Republican in the primary contest. Forty-two percent of Republicans think Rick Perry has the best shot at beating Barack Obama. Forty-five percent of seniors support Perry compared to 21% for Mitt Romney.

There is one question that is not getting as much attention, though in my mind it explains every other question. CNN asked, "Which Republican candidate is most likely to fight for their beliefs?" The winner? Rick Perry with 29%, followed by Sarah Palin at 23%. Mitt Romney? Michele Bachmann? They tied at 11%.

The answer to the question really says very little about Rick Perry and a great deal about Mitt Romney. It plays into the "opportunist" critique that many primary voters have of Romney.

In his book, Mitt Romney compared those responsible for the "looming bankruptcy" of Social Security to people engaged in a criminal enterprise, but this year he attacks Rick Perry for calling it a Ponzi scheme.

Pro-life voters are still skeptical of Romney's conversion. Fiscal conservatives are skeptical of any governor of Massachusetts. Tea party activists joke that the only issue Romney has not flipped on is the one he should — "Romneycare."....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gopprimary; leadership; perry; perry2012
Pro-life Gov. Bobby Jindal to Endorse Perry
1 posted on 09/12/2011 2:41:36 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oh good, another Perrypost !

Bless your heart . . .

2 posted on 09/12/2011 2:45:27 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good, I am so glad to see this. Both of these men know what it has been like to try and deal with Obama as both are Gov’s.


3 posted on 09/12/2011 2:47:16 PM PDT by Katarina (God bless ElRushbo! Prayers for our troops! I stand with Israel.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sarah Palin 23 percent and has not announced yet. If she runs, she wins for sure. That is actually better than I thought she did. One of the good things with Gov Perry in the race is he will make Romney lose for sure. And for that, that is good news.


4 posted on 09/12/2011 2:47:49 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: tomkat

It’s a big day for Perry and Free Republic has been down all day. Expect the news to come flowing in before the debate tonight.


5 posted on 09/12/2011 2:48:18 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good, I am so glad to see this. Both of these men know what it has been like to try and deal with Obama as both are Gov’s.


6 posted on 09/12/2011 2:48:58 PM PDT by Katarina (God bless ElRushbo! Prayers for our troops! I stand with Israel.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The skinny: Because Romney is a known RINO whereas Perry is a RINO wrapped in a conservative book cover.


7 posted on 09/12/2011 2:49:16 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good, I am so glad to see this. Both of these men know what it has been like to try and deal with Obama as both are Gov’s.


8 posted on 09/12/2011 2:49:16 PM PDT by Katarina (God bless ElRushbo! Prayers for our troops! I stand with Israel.)
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To: tomkat; Cincinatus' Wife
Oh good, another Perrypost !

What did you expect, a Palin post? She isn't in the news today except for her book in Doonesbury.
9 posted on 09/12/2011 2:50:28 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Katarina

oops not sure why it repeated haha


10 posted on 09/12/2011 2:50:37 PM PDT by Katarina (God bless ElRushbo! Prayers for our troops! I stand with Israel.)
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To: napscoordinator
23%? the highest I have seen her was at 15% and that was half of Perry's numbers.

I do appreciate her being one of the only ones backing Perry on the SS thing though. Mitt,Bachmann, Pawlenty as well as Rove have been really going after him. It's good to have strong allies.

11 posted on 09/12/2011 2:50:45 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: napscoordinator
23%? the highest I have seen her was at 15% and that was half of Perry's numbers.

I do appreciate her being one of the only ones backing Perry on the SS thing though. Mitt,Bachmann, Pawlenty as well as Rove have been really going after him. It's good to have strong allies.

12 posted on 09/12/2011 2:51:37 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: All
Perry Fires At Rove & Romney: Social Security Is A "Ponzi Scheme" And A "Monstrous Lie"

Sept 7, 2011: 4 Minute YouTube VIDEO Clip: *******************

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Perry Campaign: Remember When Romney Compared Social Security to a Criminal Enterprise? [quote from Romney's book] " What would happen to the bankers responsible for misusing the money? They would go to jail. But what has happened to the people responsible for the looming bankruptcy of Social Security? They keep returning to Congress every two years.” [end quote]




13 posted on 09/12/2011 2:51:43 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: napscoordinator

The 23% was “candidate most likely to fight for their beliefs” not “likely to vote for”.

This category is pretty meaningless.


14 posted on 09/12/2011 2:53:45 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why Perry is beating Romney

Because Perry is like the neighbor with whom you occasionally have a barbecue and beer. Romney is the annoying salesman that beats on your door and interrupts the visit with your neighbor.

15 posted on 09/12/2011 2:54:46 PM PDT by edpc (Former Normalcy Bias Victim)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope he uses the banker and jail line on Romney tonight when Romney goes after him on SS.


16 posted on 09/12/2011 2:55:24 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: tomkat
USA Today--- Rick Perry OpEd: I'm going to be honest with the American people
17 posted on 09/12/2011 2:55:57 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Katarina; napscoordinator; normy; All
Full CNN Poll results PDF
18 posted on 09/12/2011 2:58:44 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Because Romney is a Republican Lite??


19 posted on 09/12/2011 2:58:51 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: napscoordinator

Palin declined an invite to tonight’s debate.

More and more, I am thinking she is not going to run, especially now that Perry is in. If he faulters soon (like within the next week or so), she might.


20 posted on 09/12/2011 3:00:33 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From National Review Online:"UPDATE: NBC News asked Pawlenty if Romney had promised him help in retiring his debt in return for the endorsement. Pawlenty denied that any such exchange had taken placed, but added that “if he’s willing to help with that I’d love to have his help.”

What's hilarious is that NRO has been in the tank for Romney since '07.

Pawlenty Explains How He Could Endorse Romney After ‘Obamneycare’ Slam

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21 posted on 09/12/2011 3:01:29 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama has made it official now..a white is only 3/5s a person in the US. Diversity wins.)
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To: napscoordinator

23%???

Are you looking at the PPP poll from March?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html


22 posted on 09/12/2011 3:03:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Any one who supported T-Paw here had a great lesson in smarmy hypocracy by that “politician” (the lowest thing i can think of to call someone)

After Pawlenty RIGHTFULLY bashed Romney for “obamneycare” while he was running, he sleezed his way back into the news with his whole-hearted support of Romney this morning.

Watching this two-faced slimer made me want to puke


23 posted on 09/12/2011 3:03:55 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Flip a coin. Either way you end up with a rino conservative pretender.


24 posted on 09/12/2011 3:11:02 PM PDT by skyman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why is Perry trouncing Mitt?

Because more and more people are waking up to the fact that Romney and his fellow mincing, effete, snobbish silk pantywaist Ivy League elites of both parties have led this country down the road to ruin.

The last POTUS we had who seemed to give a damn about the country before his own enrichment didn’t go to Haaaahhhhvaaahhhd or Yale... he went to a wee little college called “Eureka College.” And lo, he seemed to have a much firmer grasp of the obvious than all these Ivy League frauds with which we’ve been burdened since...

I’ll point out one more thing. My favorite SCOTUS justice, Clarence Thomas, an Ivy grad, has some especially damning things to say about his alma mata and their ilk. NB where Justice Thomas will give speeches and addresses... it isn’t at the Ivy schools.


25 posted on 09/12/2011 3:12:10 PM PDT by NVDave
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“Why Perry is beating Romney”

When I saw the headline, my thought was that Perry was physically “beating” (as in punch & kick) Romney. It was a momentary pleasure. Too bad reality had to sink in that it is merely beating him as in polling better.

I like this headline better:

“Romney hospitalized and out of race after physical altercation with Perry....Perry’s actions ruled to be self-defense”


26 posted on 09/12/2011 3:29:16 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: napscoordinator
Sarah Palin 23 percent and has not announced yet. If she runs, she wins for sure.

You need to improve your reading comprehension:

CNN asked, "Which Republican candidate is most likely to fight for their beliefs?" The winner? Rick Perry with 29%, followed by Sarah Palin at 23%. Mitt Romney? Michele Bachmann? They tied at 11%.

Sarah is not at 23% in terms of who people will vote for, just on this one question. She still has only half the support Perry gets, despite the fact that she has been canpaigning non-stop since 2009, and has a much higher name recognition than Perry (or maybe because of it).

27 posted on 09/12/2011 3:30:32 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

28 posted on 09/12/2011 3:31:18 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: CA Conservative

Oh rats. Thanks for the information. Not happy now. lol.


29 posted on 09/12/2011 3:32:35 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For one thing there is no room in the GOP for a liberal running for POTUS. Romney is a liberal, there are no two ways about that. In fact I believe that Huntsman is only in this race to make Mitt look moderate.

Perry is not all things to all conservatives but he is electable and leans conservative. Comparing Texas’ economy to the nations’ will get him more than halfway toward perpetrating an ass-kicking on Obama that will be so complete that Perry will be plucking pieces of Obamas’ ass out of his cowboy boot all the way to the inauguration.


30 posted on 09/12/2011 3:39:29 PM PDT by Grunthor (If you are emotionally attached to any politician you are a light weight, a mental midget, a moron.)
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To: napscoordinator

She’s not going to run in my opinion. I wish that she would tell her supporters that rather than stringing you along. You folks...well, most of you anyway, deserve better than that.


31 posted on 09/12/2011 3:41:44 PM PDT by Grunthor (If you are emotionally attached to any politician you are a light weight, a mental midget, a moron.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Of all the questions in the CNN poll that was released today, the one on electability had to be the most important.

ORC International Poll — September 9 to 11, 2011

Question 42

Which Republican candidate do you think has the best chance of beating Barack Obama in the general
election next November?

Perry 42%
Romney 26%
Palin 7%
Gingrich 5%
Bachmann 5%
Paul 5%
Cain 3%
Huntsman 2%
Santorum * N/A


32 posted on 09/12/2011 3:42:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

33 posted on 09/12/2011 5:30:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: NVDave
I think the past 2 debates, which both were designed to be an attack on Perry - first by the moderator's question - and then to be followed up by the candidates....

Helps Perry.

Average viewers can see he has a compassionate side, a side that admits to a few mistakes, and a side that can take incoming missiles and still manage a smile.

Did anyone find it ODD that Bachmann looked to the right of Perry the entire debate? She never made eye contact or looked in his direction. But had plenty of attack material. Just could not stare him down with it. Very interesting.

34 posted on 09/12/2011 9:04:39 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Pro-life Gov. Bobby Jindal to Endorse Perry

If Rick Perry were a halfway honest and straight-up politician, you'd have yourself a hell of a candidate.

Unfortunately, Rick ain't all that, and you know it. Enough Texans have told you that by now, that your constantly booming Perry is getting hard to see as anything but partisanship in the extreme. Your support is not considerate and well-weighed.

35 posted on 09/13/2011 12:27:18 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
USA Today--- Rick Perry OpEd: I'm going to be honest with the American people

That's only credible if you stipulate that

"The American People" = "My Twenty Richest Contributors"

Rick Perry's a choreboy, a political errand boy, for a tiny group of superrich politically-active people in the construction, chicken-processing, homebuilding, and other low-wage businesses, also known as the Open Borders Lobby.

He also talks to the Bilderberg people -- about God knows what.

36 posted on 09/13/2011 12:36:11 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Pro-life voters are still skeptical of Romney's conversion. Fiscal conservatives are skeptical of any governor of Massachusetts. Tea party activists joke that the only issue Romney has not flipped on is the one he should — "Romneycare."....

Romney is also a lying, gun grabbing, flip flopping POS.

37 posted on 09/13/2011 12:45:59 AM PDT by metalurgist (I Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: napscoordinator
“Which Republican candidate is most likely to fight for their beliefs?”

The winner? Rick Perry with 29%, followed by Sarah Palin at 23%. Mitt Romney? Michele Bachmann? They tied at 11%.

Sorry, this is not a poll. The same group of people say, that Palin should not run. (To the tune of over 60%)

If Palin runs, she won't make it past the Primaries. She is too late and has way too little financial support and especially lacks broad voter support.

38 posted on 09/13/2011 12:54:56 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: lentulusgracchus

tin foil..?


39 posted on 09/13/2011 2:06:17 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Obama Debt-Laden)
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To: Rick_Michael
No.

His contributors have been subjects of many newspaper stories. He was invited to the Bilderberg Conference in Istanbul in 2007 and the one in Virginia in 2010. Maybe this year's, too -- I'm not sure on that point.

But the Bilderbergers like to talk to future world leaders ..... what about, nobody ever says.

40 posted on 09/13/2011 4:29:11 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: napscoordinator
One of the good things with Gov Perry in the race is he will make Romney lose for sure. And for that, that is good news.

Actually, I think the RiNOs' plan was that Perry would take Palin out of the picture and then Golden Boy Mittens would scoop up his prize, throwing a bone under the table for Perry. The Veepship, perhaps, or if the grandees thought that too good for the likes of Rick, maybe a cabinet job instead.

Although, on the analogy of Dick Nixon, who got the Veepship for helping the Me-Too'ers screw Bob Taft by delivering Earl Warren's California delegation for Ike (and Warren, of course, got the Chief Justiceship), it would be hard to deny Perry the bucket of warm spit for having performed the signal service of taking out Palin and forcing the conservative rabble to support Romney against their will.

41 posted on 09/13/2011 4:39:34 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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