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To: Polybius

Wow! Unlike a lot of folks on this thread, I have nothing against vaccines but your post is way over the top! You would think the streets were lined with women dropping dead from cervical cancer. Reminds me of the hysteria over second hand smoke and the gross-out tv commercials that go with it. And the hysterical AIDS crisis of the 1980s.

All this Bloombergian hypochondria that seems to me very un-conservative.


146 posted on 09/13/2011 8:15:28 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: miss marmelstein
All this Bloombergian hypochondria that seems to me very un-conservative.

Right on!
149 posted on 09/13/2011 8:39:56 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: miss marmelstein
Wow! Unlike a lot of folks on this thread, I have nothing against vaccines but your post is way over the top! You would think the streets were lined with women dropping dead from cervical cancer. Reminds me of the hysteria over second hand smoke and the gross-out tv commercials that go with it. And the hysterical AIDS crisis of the 1980s. All this Bloombergian hypochondria that seems to me very un-conservative.

It would benefit you and the understanding of this issue, Miss Marmelstein, to look at what was actually written, to stop mixing political hyperbole with medical data and to stop the mocking hysterical imagery you engaged in ("streets were lined with women dropping dead from cervical cancer).

Did I mention cervical cancer incidence and death figures anywhere in my prior post?

No, I did not. But I will in this post.

Have some people on this thread come, flat out, and falsely claimed that HPV only causes warts and not cancer?

Yes. See my Post 161 regarding that false claim.

Have I addressed the false logic of some that, if they keep their daughters virgins until their daughter's wedding nights, HPV will never affect them?

Yes. The 13 year old, back in 1991, that had sex with someone that had sex with someone that had sex with her non-virgin groom could be the source of the HPV infection the brand new son-in-law gave the 25 year old virgin bride daughter on her wedding night as a wedding present.

So, Miss Marmelstein, this is the medical data. (Without your hyperbolic mockery of "streets lined with women dropping dead".)

What is the association between HPV infection and cancer and what is the U.S. cervical cancer mortality data? From the National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health (NIH)

"Persistent HPV infections are now recognized as the cause of essentially all cervical cancers. It was estimated that, in 2010, about 12,000 women in the United States would be diagnosed with this type of cancer and more than 4,000 would die from it."

So, Miss Marmelstein, we are not talking about "the streets were lined with women dropping dead from cervical cancer".

We are < sarcasm>"only" < /sarcasm> talking about 1,000 more deaths than occurred at the September 11 Attack in 2001,..... Except that those 4,000 deaths occur year ... after year .... after .... after year .... after year.

Does that satisfy you now, Miss Marmelstein?

We are < sarcasm>only < /sarcasm> talking about the death total equivalent of a 9-11 Attack Plus One Thousand More, every single year, year after year and not, as you mockingly put it, "streets were lined with women dropping dead from cervical cancer".

And every single one of those deaths is liked back to HPV infection.

What is the incidence of HPV in the population?

Right now, 26% of all U.S. women are infected with HPV.

National Cancer Institute at the National Institutes of Health (NIH)

"published in the February 28, 2007, Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) have provided the first national estimate of the prevalence of human papillomavirus (HPV) infection among women in the United States aged 14 to 59. Investigators found that a total of 26.8 percent of women overall tested positive for one or more strains of HPV ..."

As the Canadian study stated, with that prevalence of HPV in the population and with cheating husbands, cheating wives, second marriages and "dating" between marriages being what it is nowadays, the chances of the average person being infected in their lifetime by HPV is 70%.

Those are the facts, without your mocking hysterial hyperbole.

1.) HPV infection "is recognized as the cause of essentially all cervical cancers".

2.) Four thousand women in the U.S. die of cervical cancer in the U.S. every single year: Year after year after year.

3.) Twenty six percent (26%) of all U.S. woman are infected by HPV at any one time and the chances of the normal North American getting infected during their lifetime is 70%.

Use the actual medical facts as you see fit.

Oh, one more thing, Miss Marmelstein, that "hysterical AIDS crisis of the 1980s" that you mocked has since ENDED UP KILLING an estimated 617,025 people in the U.S.

That equals 200,000 more American deaths than all of the American deaths in World War II.

At it's peak in the U.S., it was killing tens of thousands of Americans, year after year after year before public health efforts brought the death rate down.

At it's peak, the "hysterical AIDS crisis of the 1980s" that you mocked killed 41,699 Americans in a SINGLE YEAR. By comparison, the entire Korean War killed 36,516 Americans.

Are you really that callous or are you simply totally uniformed about the death total numbers that you mock?


171 posted on 09/14/2011 9:35:38 AM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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