Posted on 09/14/2011 1:00:46 PM PDT by ReformationFan
IMO, some are. I remember some queer telling me that nobody in his right mind would choose that lifestyle, considering all the hate and disgust heaped upon its practitioners. When you seen people in high positions who have much to lose soliciting sex in a public restroom, for instance, that's telling me the inborn sexual preferences are kicking in.
Yes, the entire gay movement is a lie and a con. And the straight community pays for it in millions of lives defaced, devalued, and foreshortened by homosexuals who knowingly and opportunistically approach and sexualize inexperienced straight kids -- which accounts for at least half of homosexual men, and most of the lesbian population.
Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen knew it when they wrote their snarky, snickering "Overhauling Straight America" in The Guide, the series of articles that later became After the Ball; and Evan Wolfson, formerly of Lambda Legal, knew it every time he stood up in open court with a straight face to argue the "essentialist" civil-rights-movement drivel, to get courts to agree with him and gavel down the People of the United States.
There is a genetic predisposition, though, because identical twins are more likely to be of the same sexual orientation than fraternal ones. The genetic component is not the main factor, though, and even less so for women than men.
God states very clearly that homosexuality is a sin, wrong and an abomination. He rejects this perverted lifestyle choice. (see Sodom and Gomorrah)
God disagrees with your insane belief.
Researchers from the 1960's who worked on "reparative therapy" ideas with homosexuals (men, most usually), would agree with you, that in about 30% of cases, male homosexuals appear to be "hard-wired" or "essentially" or "biologically" oriented.
Bieber and others who had done such research were frozen out after the homosexual coup d'etat in the mental-health profession in 1972-3, and their work was "officially" discredited -- politically.
Even 10 years ago, however, a substantial plurality, around 40%, of mental-health professionals were still of the opinion, after 30 years of campaigning, propagandization, and dragooning of outliers, that psychological factors were determinant in homosexuality, overwhelmingly so in lesbianism.
Do you have knowledge of their home life?
Who did their parent(s) hang with?
Unless you personally know about their family life style you can only assume that they were "born that way".
My observation is that male gays are identified with domineering mothers who don’t nurture or value male traits in their boys, and often with the lack of a strong male role model in their lives. As these boys grow they don’t know how to be boys. At first, while younger, they may prefer to play with girls. They may feel intimidated by normal boys. Later they see other boys like themselves and tend to identify and socialize with them. By this time they may feel intimidated by girls. Have you noticed that there seems to be more male gays than there was years ago? It is probably because more boys are raised in the manner described above. No, male gays are not born that way. I do not favor discrimination or hatred against self identified gays. However, being gay is just a behavior exhibited by some people and is not a separate category of humans requiring special status in our laws, imo.
It’s a product of Marxist thought and presuppositions to believe that they are “born that way”.
Marxist materialism assumes that humans and their behaviors are nothing more than matter in motion and that they really have no choice but to react in specific ways to given inputs.
The left has intentionally suppressed data from studies showing that homosexual tendencies among those sexually abused as children and those raised in same-sex households are much higher than in the general population.
It’s not exactly nuture.. It’s recruitment.
“Look at prior societies in which homosexuality was pretty much common. The ancient Greeks, the Turks, the Imperial Romans, etc. It COULDNT have been genetic in those societies as it was rare BEFORE it became common and became rare afterwards - the cultural factor here.”
My world view is that man is a fallen, sinful creature. Left unchecked to his own devices he will sink to low levels of degeneration - as was the case with Romans and Greeks. As children of Adam, we are ALL born with a degenerate nature that makes us prone to sin and perversion. Does that give us an excuse to do so...no it does not.
People are born with various propensities to sin,
be it covetousness, thievery, dishonesty, or sexual depravity.
It is still the responsibility of the individual to reject or indulge their sin nature.
9. Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10. nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11. Such WERE some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
It is not outside the realm of possibility that an individual is born with a predisposition towards some type of behavior or development of some malady. But, a blanket assumption that when a person is born their genetic code determines all aspects of human behavior is preposterous. This ideology completely disregards that human beings are capable of self-determination. Try proposing this to a liberal, though.
IIRC, Tammy Bruce says the same thing. I believe I read she said she was a lesbian “by choice”.
While I don’t reject your statement, re-read exodus please, it was not just the sexually debauchery that brought about their harsh but just judgement. They were unjust in every aspect of society. If having imoral consentual carnal knowlegde were enough for sodom and gomorah how much more should the punishment be for us.
As I stated, God was very clear in BOTH the Old and New testaments - homosexuality is an abomination.
I defer to Him and His judgement.
Not necessarily. Many people in high positions have personality problems. Or overly developed egos or whatever you wish to label it. They usually have the It's All About Me! attitude and gravitate toward the danger zone. Same as with many gays. They crave attention and being a flaming in your face queen gets them attention. There's a stigma against gays so that's the danger zone they seek out. Being in a straight relationship doesn't get them the emotional high or the attention because that's considered the norm.
Or maybe they're just debauched perverts who think they can get away with it.
Like a certain former president and a certain former congressman from NY-9.
I’ve never cared whether they were born that way or not. Being born a certain way or another doesn’t automatically make one normal.
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