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Gays aren't "born that way" -- a lesbian says so
RenewAmerica.com ^ | Sept. 14, 2011 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 09/14/2011 1:00:46 PM PDT by ReformationFan

In an astonishing column published in the winger-left publication, "The Atlantic," openly "queer woman" (her words) Lindsay Miller says flatly, "In direct opposition to both the mainstream gay movement and Lady Gaga, I would like to state for the record that I was not born this way."

Tellingly, she argues that saying people are "born this way" is a form of condescension, and she resents it mightily. "I get frustrated with the veiled condescension of straight people who believe that queers 'can't help it,' and thus should be treated with tolerance and pity."

I've got news for Ms. Miller — it's not straights saying that you can't help it, it is your co-belligerents in the homosexual movement. In the pro-family movement, we entirely agree with you that sexual behavior in the end is always a matter of choice. We have no condescension towards you in the least — we regard you as men and women made in the image of God who are perfectly capable of making responsible and mature decisions regarding your sexuality.

Ms. Miller concludes her piece by saying, "The life I have now is not something I ended up with because I had no other options. Make no mistake — it's a life I chose."

Homosexual activists must be seething at this point, since Ms. Miller has blown their entire civil rights argument — we're just like blacks — to smithereens. Blacks did not choose to be black. Race is immutable, assigned at birth. But homosexuality is not immutable and it is not fixed at birth. Ms. Miller has chosen lesbianism, which means she is perfectly capable of choosing sexual normalcy if she becomes so inclined.

Ms. Miller confirms what Colin Powell said long ago, that the comparison between race and sexual preference is "convenient but invalid."

It's time to send the "born that way" myth to the graveyard of misbegotten ideas, buried in the plot next to the myth that the sun revolves around the earth.

And we don't just need to take Lindsay Miller's word for it. Psychiatrists William Byne and Bruce Parsons wrote in Archives of General Psychiatry (March 1993) that, "Critical review shows the evidence favoring a biologic theory to be lacking ... In fact, the current trend may be to underrate the explanatory power of extant psychosocial models." In other words, nurture plays a greater role in sexual preference than homosexual activists want you to believe.

As Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council points out, rigorous studies of identical twins have now made it impossible to argue seriously for the theory of genetic determination. If homosexuality were fixed at birth, as the misguided thinking of homosexual activists goes, then if one twin is homosexual, the other should be as well. The "concordance rate" should be 100%.

But it's not. One early proponent of the "born that way" thesis, Michael Bailey, conducted a study on a large sample of Australian twins and discovered to his chagrin that the concordance rate was just 11%.

Peter Bearman and Hannah Bruckner, researchers from Columbia and Yale, looked at data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health and found concordance rates of just 6.7% for male and 5.3% for female identical twins.

They determined that social environment was of far greater significance, and their research led them to reject "genetic influence independent of social context" as an explanation for homosexuality. They concluded, "..[O]ur results support the hypothesis that less gendered socialization in early childhood and preadolescence shapes subsequent same-sex romantic preferences."

As Sprigg observes, "If it was not clear in the 1990's, it certainly is now — no one is 'born gay.'"

The implications, of course, of this simple truth are far-reaching. If homosexual behavior is a choice, then our public policy can freely be shaped by an honest look at whether this behavioral choice is healthy and should be encouraged or unhealthy and dangerous and consequently discouraged.

The elevated health risks associated with homosexuality are by now so well established that not even homosexuals pretend otherwise. The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association warns that active homosexuals are at elevated risks of HIV/AIDS, substance and alcohol abuse, depression and anxiety, hepatitis, a whole range of STDs such as syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, pubic lice, Human Papilloma Virus, and anal papilloma, and prostate, testicular and colon cancer.

Bottom line: this is not behavior that any rational society should condone, endorse, subsidize, reward, promote or sanction in domestic policy or in the marketplace. It's a choice, and a bad one at that. It's long past time for our culture to say a simple and direct "No" to homosexuality and the homosexual agenda.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bryanfischer; chlamydia; choice; coloncancer; fischer; gonorrhea; homosexualagenda; lindsaymiller; prochoice; syphilis; theatlantic
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1 posted on 09/14/2011 1:00:53 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Well! I’m offended she calls herself “a queer”!
*sarcasm in neutral, world just too weird to take anymore*


2 posted on 09/14/2011 1:06:44 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Sarah Palin 2012 "Not For Sale!")
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To: ReformationFan

So, the argument here is that human beings are indeed sentient beings capable of making choices on how they wish to comport themselves through life. How novel.


3 posted on 09/14/2011 1:10:50 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: ReformationFan

The twins data is d_mning - literally.


4 posted on 09/14/2011 1:16:56 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: ReformationFan
Make no mistake — it's a life I chose

Anybody with a brain (which lets out most Liberals) knows this is the case.

"I was born this way" is just an excuse for abnormal and abhorrent behavior.

5 posted on 09/14/2011 1:18:09 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: ReformationFan

“The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association warns that active homosexuals are at elevated risks of HIV/AIDS, substance and alcohol abuse, depression and anxiety, hepatitis, a whole range of STDs such as syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, pubic lice, Human Papilloma Virus, and anal papilloma, and prostate, testicular and colon cancer”.

...this could be the reason that so many people don’t want any contact with with you folks!!


6 posted on 09/14/2011 1:18:35 PM PDT by albie
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To: albie

amen..


7 posted on 09/14/2011 1:22:07 PM PDT by brivette
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To: ReformationFan

The logical extension of “Gays are born that way” is that “People who engage in beastiality are born that way too” And “Pedophiles are born that way.” Even “Rapists are born that way” and why not “Drug users are born that way and “Thieves are born that way.”

Indeed Pedophiles are now pushing the APA to classify their condition as a “sexual orientation” the same way that the gays did.

A behavior is not justified by the number of people who choose it.

Cannibalism is not justified even though entire cultures have embraced it. We were not wrong to push our Christian values on such cultures.

Pedophilia and homosexual behavior is not justified no matter how many Hollywood moguls and congressmen embrace it.


8 posted on 09/14/2011 1:24:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ReformationFan

“Our public policy can freely be shaped by an honest look” - not as long as any Democrat is involved. Their first thought is always “How can I get votes and money from these suckers?”


9 posted on 09/14/2011 1:27:32 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: albie

You left out bedbugs.

They are no more born homosexuals than liberals are born liberal.

They’re all created in experimental labs.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 1:28:26 PM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: ReformationFan
Good article that restates what many of us have been saying for years: that homosexual behavior is a choice, not a biological imperative. The 'gay community' has persuaded politicians and judges to treat their sexual perversions as an inherent trait that cannot be changed and so, deserves some kind of special dispensation and laws elevating any harm done to someone practicing homosexual behavior to a 'hate crime', with harsher penalties, thus elevating a sexual perversion to special status in the eyes of the law, which is offensive to many Americans. The homosexual advocates have made 'gay marriage' their Holy Grail and that is becoming their Waterloo....a bridge too far, as it were. This overreaching is generating a backlash and with this lesbian woman stating the obvious in a left-wing national magazine (The Atlantic), the tide may well be starting to turn against the near-celebration of homosexual behavior by liberal politicians, judges and 'celebrities. Its about time sanity reemerged on this issue.
11 posted on 09/14/2011 1:35:50 PM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: ReformationFan

I believe Gays ARE born that way. I recall, being in the 2nd or 3rd grade a few boys who were effeminate, hung around with girls, who were into dancing and not baseball, and who later grew up to be full-fledged homos.

I can’t buy that 7 and 8 year old boys chose to act effeminately at such an early age. They were genetically predisposed to be that way.


12 posted on 09/14/2011 1:36:06 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: ReformationFan

Then they know what to do and schools don’t need to teach it.


13 posted on 09/14/2011 1:36:30 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: ReformationFan

Show my a 3 year old homosexual. Boom, roasted!


14 posted on 09/14/2011 1:38:16 PM PDT by struggle
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To: ReformationFan

Show me a 3 year old homosexual. Boom, roasted!


15 posted on 09/14/2011 1:38:31 PM PDT by struggle
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To: ReformationFan

bkmk


16 posted on 09/14/2011 1:42:41 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: grobdriver

My wife and I were just talking about this subject two days ago. My female cousin, same age as me, was a normal teenage girl in high school. She had lots of boy friends, went on dates, and spent lots of time talking to boys on the phone. She was pretty and she was happy. I did lose close contact with her after high school, but I know how her life went after that. She was married which ended in divorce. She became depressed and eventually moved into some type of communal living arrangement with other women somewhere in New England. She announced she was gay. She committed suicide. Was she born gay? I don’t believe it for a moment. She was weakened by events in life. She fell under the influence of bad people. Her life became even more messed up and ended badly.


17 posted on 09/14/2011 1:45:26 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: Signalman

My lib SIL worked to feminize her boys from birth.
She encouraged “girly’ things, got them tea sets and Fisher Price kitchens. She encourage them to be girls at every turn.

It’s nurture and not nature, my friend.
If it was nature than identical twins would always be of the same sexual persuasion.


18 posted on 09/14/2011 1:46:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: ReformationFan

I think its can be either - genetic or cultural.

Look at prior societies in which homosexuality was pretty much common. The ancient Greeks, the Turks, the Imperial Romans, etc. It COULDN’T have been genetic in those societies as it was rare BEFORE it became common and became rare afterwards - the cultural factor here.

On the other hand, we ALL know people we had in elementary school and high school who were, “different”. Some studies have been done to indicate there ARE differences in brain wave patterns of SOME homosexuals.


19 posted on 09/14/2011 1:47:15 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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To: ReformationFan
As Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council points out, rigorous studies of identical twins have now made it impossible to argue seriously for the theory of genetic determination. If homosexuality were fixed at birth, as the misguided thinking of homosexual activists goes, then if one twin is homosexual, the other should be as well. The "concordance rate" should be 100%.

"Born that way" does not necessarily equate to genetic inheritance.

Increasing evidence indicates that many of the subtle differences between people are created by how the intra-uterine environment expresses the genetic code of the DNA.

IOW, the DNA is the blueprint, but as we all know blueprints can be followed well or poorly by the actual builders. Many if not most birth defects are of this type, and it is likely many other "inborn" differences are too.

Personally I believe some though not all homosexuals are born with a strong tendency in that direction, as a result probably of hormonal fluctuations in the mother at critical points in the formation of the nervous system.

Which would make such tendency a form of birth defect, if you like. Which ought to really piss off the gay rights people.

20 posted on 09/14/2011 1:48:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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