Gays aren't "born that way" -- a lesbian says so

RenewAmerica.com ^ | Sept. 14, 2011 | Bryan Fischer

[cradle of freedom]

It is very interesting how the mother encouraging the boy to play with girls toys induced him to be gay. I don't think it is actually playing with the toys but the subliminal message that the mother was sending. It's like she was saying “I want you to be a girl.”

Remember a web story last year concerning a mother who made a big internet fuss about her little five year old boy wanting to dress up as Daphne of the cartoon show Scooby Doo? The little boy loved the show, previous years he had gone as other characters of the show but that year he decided that he wanted to go as Daphne. The mother got him a Daphne costume, then the little boy had second thoughts. The mother insisted that he wear it. When the other mothers saw him dressed as Daphne, they rolled their eyes or made some other sign of their displeasure. The mother was mad at the other mothers then went on the internet with a huge story which had the bold face title “My five year old son is gay”. Then she put a picture of her son in the Daphne costume. She then told the whole story and admitted that her five year old is probably not gay but she would love him just as much if he were.

She took a small private incident and then blew it up into a national phenomenon, she even appeared on television. I think this mother has some issues and has made her little boy the brunt of unwanted national attention that will live with him for years. All this because she wanted her liberal bon fides.

[Oatka]

nobody in his right mind...That right there is your cleverly hidden disclaimer.

Hello? You read too much into that statement. Freudian slip? :-)

See post 65.

[Mamzelle]

I'll go even farther out on your limb. In my anecdotal opinion, lesbians are "made" and not born, and male homosexuals are born and not made. At least I observe that this is the case most of the time.

Sexuality, I believe, has to do with access. Think of prisons and same-sex boarding schools.

[ZULU]

Well, I certainly can’t argue with that.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

There is no post 65

[ROCKLOBSTER]

See post 65.

You see post #65.

[netmilsmom]

>>It’s like she was saying “I want you to be a girl.”<<

This woman told me, when she was pregnant with her second son and I was pregnant with my second daughter, “You can make a girl into a boy, but not a boy into a girl.”

I really feel she tried.
Me? I want my kids to be themselves.

[PeterPrinciple]

I can’t buy that 7 and 8 year old boys chose to act effeminately at such an early age. They were genetically predisposed to be that way.

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It is a behavior. Do you know what imprinting is? A baby chick will follow the first think that moves and this is good. Imprinting is also part of the human response and it is there for a very good reason. Young children can be imprinted to a behavior if exposed at just the right time.

That said, behaviors are complex. But behaviors can be changed. No always easy but can be done. The big question is not what causes it but is it an acceptable behavior. This is the question the homos don't want us to talk about.

But you have to understand they are not born that way. A predisposition maybe, but then by that I should have been an alcoholic

[cradle of freedom]

What was she talking about making girls into boys or whatever?

[PeterPrinciple]

I can’t buy that 7 and 8 year old boys chose to act effeminately at such an early age. They were genetically predisposed to be that way.

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It is a behavior. Do you know what imprinting is? A baby chick will follow the first think that moves and this is good. Imprinting is also part of the human response and it is there for a very good reason. Young children can be imprinted to a behavior if exposed at just the right time.

That said, behaviors are complex. But behaviors can be changed. No always easy but can be done. The big question is not what causes it but is it an acceptable behavior. This is the question the homos don't want us to talk about.

But you have to understand they are not born that way. A predisposition maybe, but then by that I should have been an alcoholic

[PeterPrinciple]

I remember some queer telling me that nobody in his right mind would choose that lifestyle, considering all the hate and disgust heaped upon its practitioners.

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Why is any destructive life style chosen?

[Oatka]

Fast fingers - meant #25.

[A_perfect_lady]

I still don’t know. I’m pretty sure I have no choice but to be straight. Other women just don’t do anything for me, physically.

[conservativguy99]

You haven’t met the right one. (sarcasm, but you never know)

[struggle]

>>Show me a 3 year old homosexual.
>Show me a 3-year-old and prove he’s heterosexual. (Not literally, heaven forbid).

Exactly. 3 year olds have no sexuality, thus proving my point. Sexuality is not predetermined.

[scripter]

I often wonder what it will take for some people to realize homosexuals are not born with their same-sex attraction.

• Science doesn't support the born that way theory
• Gays and lesbians have said they chose the gay life
• There have been prominent gays and lesbians who left the lifestyle
• Queer By Choice is about gays admitting their choice

But some freepers will remain unconvinced and will continue in their ignorance.

I often wonder what it will take...

[ROCKLOBSTER]

See post #56

[hinckley buzzard]

The whole argument has fallen prey to a major, and persistent, fallacy in the layman's attempts to parse human behavior. We can call it the "single sovereign explanation" approach to the etiology of behavior.

That is the idea, attractive but totally without empirical support, that a given outcome has to have a single governing cause.

In reality it is likely that homosexual behavior, like most other behaviors, can be generated, conditioned, and reinforced, by a variety of stimulus domains. IOW, you can get to be homosexual through any number of routes, many of which have probably not yet even been identified.

The pressure to determine a single cause is political, not scientific, and we all need to keep that fact in mind.

[SaraJohnson]

A large percentage of gay men were abused that into sexual problems as boys. I saw a study on this a long time ago. This explains why the first place gays set up shop was in our pulbic schools. Propaganda, in this case, is another word for pedophile grooming.

[scripter]

Some studies have been done to indicate there ARE differences in brain wave patterns of SOME homosexuals.

What studies? I know of none.