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Rick Perry's HPV Stance Grounded in Case of Heather Burcham, Who Died of Cervical Cancer
ABC News ^ | September 15, 2011 | GINA SUNSERI

Posted on 09/15/2011 9:55:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: GunRunner

They’re mad at Bachmann because she lied about there being “no choice”, and she lied about it causing mental retardation.

I didn't hear Bachmann's "retardation" statement in the post debate interview first hand, so I had to look it up :
"There’s a woman who came up crying to me tonight after the debate. She said her daughter was given that vaccine ... She told me her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result. There are very dangerous consequences."
Bachmann relayed a statement made to her post-debate and followed it up with a "very dangerous consequences" statement of her own. I have a hard time vilifying her for this. I think most rational folks would have an equally hard time, especially those aware of the negative side effects the HPV vaccine can and has exhibited.


181 posted on 09/15/2011 11:06:21 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Carling
-- So, I'm still not sure why you posted that lengthy cut/paste to me. --

Because I thought more information, on the thread, would be better. I used your remark because you assert that HPV causes cancer.

-- I can't help out someone who wants to stay ignorant. --

Well, of course not. Nobody can do that.

182 posted on 09/15/2011 11:07:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: traderrob6

We all have our likes and dislikes.

Personally, I don’t like corruption, crony capitalism, pay-to-play, or anything else that puts the political class above We the People. We’ve got enough of that now and people trying to obfuscate this with fluffy bunnies and puppy dogs are being dishonest.

That said, I’ve never been called a curmudgeon before and I’m stoked...I must have hit a milestone! :D


183 posted on 09/15/2011 11:07:27 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in.)
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To: DesertRhino

4000 out of 350,000,000

39 out of about at most 500,000


184 posted on 09/15/2011 11:07:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Gardisil doesn’t have a black box warning because it wouldn’t be PC to add one.

You don't make any sense at all. This has to be an act.

185 posted on 09/15/2011 11:07:44 AM PDT by Carling
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Impossible, I’ve read here on FR that only sinners who deserve to die by stoning get HPV and cancer

Really? When you have to engage in this sort of hysteric character assignation and reckless demagoguery, you have all ready lost the debate.

Posting volume and hyperbolic rhetoric are not effective substitute for fact and reason.

You are making a total laughing stock of yourself with this sort of posting.

187 posted on 09/15/2011 11:08:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: traderrob6

The Huckabee supporters were avid also. They didn’t really intend to help McCain get the nomination, but that was the result. The same thing is happening again. Bachman and Romney are acting as a tag team and Palin is facilitating it, probably for the same reason that Huckabee helped McCain, the VP nomination.


188 posted on 09/15/2011 11:09:17 AM PDT by Eva
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To: napscoordinator

Oh yes it was absolutely vicious; I see she continued to attack him after the debate too right?

Not suppose to make your response personal so stop being an a**.


189 posted on 09/15/2011 11:09:29 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (GOD 2012 because He is the only One pure enough for some)
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To: so_real
I have a hard time vilifying her for this.

I don't. It's inexcusable. She can recover her credibility if she apologizes and says she spoke out of error and/or emotion.

The rest of my response is in post #169.

190 posted on 09/15/2011 11:09:29 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner
That is no excuse. If a woman had told Bachmann that Gardisil caused her daughter to spontaneously explode, would you have excused her for repeating the claim? Repeating lies and misinformation does not absolve you of responsibility simply because you're repeating something you heard. I'll grant you that Bachmann may very well be just extremely ignorant, but that doesn't give you absolution to run around and repeat every asinine claim that you hear. Bachmann should be ashamed of herself.

Then you have NO excuse for writing a lying accusation as if you are judge, jury, and executioner... And the luddites worry about little church ladies poking holes in their 'fittest' will survive dogma, while ignoring all the mutations they claim demonstrates progression of life... See now none of the luddites will admit that there is NO 100% certainty that at any give time a mutation maybe, possibly, probably will take place and this 'save' the girls will have NO affect.

191 posted on 09/15/2011 11:10:12 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: jwalsh07; allmendream
No my contention is that YOU are an ignorant slut. Perry's slut evidently.

Hookay. You Palin supports are out of control.

192 posted on 09/15/2011 11:10:27 AM PDT by Carling
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To: jwalsh07; allmendream
No my contention is that YOU are an ignorant slut. Perry's slut evidently.

Hookay. You Palin supporters are out of control.

193 posted on 09/15/2011 11:10:31 AM PDT by Carling
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To: traderrob6

Remember that Palin has already made a public statement that she could support a Romney candidacy.


194 posted on 09/15/2011 11:10:58 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
Remember that Palin has already made a public statement that she could support a Romney candidacy.

But, but, but that's just part of her double-secret plan to win the nomination!!

195 posted on 09/15/2011 11:12:41 AM PDT by Carling
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To: Carling

“I realize that, but HPV is the primary cause of cervical cancer.”

BUT how do you contract HPV?


196 posted on 09/15/2011 11:13:29 AM PDT by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: RockinRight

You are WAY out of line RR. Nobody is claiming Palin is pure as the driven snow however, it sounds pretty much like this is a lie written by sleazebag McGinnis.


197 posted on 09/15/2011 11:13:29 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (GOD 2012 because He is the only One pure enough for some)
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To: DesertRhino
-- Guess i missed 4000 girls dead from the vaccination --

I figure the vaccine is a net positive, but you are missing a few factors in your analysis. There is an unstated assumption (maybe true, I don;t know) that 100% of the cervical cancers are accompanied by HPV; and that the vaccination will prevent the cancer.

Some of those 4000 (is that per year?) are, unfortunately, going to happen even if/when HPV vaccination has been mandatory for all, for a generation or two.

198 posted on 09/15/2011 11:13:55 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: driftdiver

Hey smart,, can you guess why half of the 350000000 didn’t get CERVICAL cancer?


199 posted on 09/15/2011 11:14:39 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

cur·mudg·eon (kr-mjn)
n.
An ill-tempered person full of resentment and stubborn notions.

Knock yourself out.


200 posted on 09/15/2011 11:14:47 AM PDT by traderrob6
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