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To: HMS Surprise

“What mattered then, and therefore matters now, is the nationality of your parents, period and end of story.”

You REALLY don’t know your history, do you!

Or your present. If you apply for a passport, do they ask for a birth certificate, or your parent’s passports?

Haven’t you ever wondered why all 50 states, both parties, every Congressman and the Supreme Court disagree with your legal analysis?


53 posted on 09/16/2011 9:36:21 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Mr Rogers

We cannot keep track the number of times Mr Rogers has been schooled regarding this subject.

Obama is not a 14th Amendment citizen and he is not a natural born Citizen. Nothing you can cite refutes this truth.

Mr Rogers you are in way over your head, the sad thing is you do not know it.

Mr Rogers please give it a rest.

Enjoy your retirement.


62 posted on 09/16/2011 10:04:27 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Mr Rogers

Omg... Citizenship is not ... I am so weak trying to explain what should be so easy to understand... If it were MERE citizenship that was the test, the wording would not include “natural-born” in the Constitution. What you are discussing is not even germane to the discussion. Read, think, and paddle faster. (much faster)


68 posted on 09/16/2011 10:53:19 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: Mr Rogers

You really make me want to just give up. But, alas... This issue doesn’t require “legal analysis”. It merely requires that you understand the definition of a phrase. What does “natural-born” mean? If it means mere citizenship, then there is no discussion... correct? So, if natural-born is synonymous with native-born, you are right. Guess what? It’s not.


69 posted on 09/16/2011 10:58:37 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Pants on fire!


95 posted on 09/17/2011 8:41:46 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Mr Rogers; HMS Surprise

HMS really does know his history.

The first immigration act of 1790 made it clear, without a doubt what the criteria for natural born Citizenship was - birth to US Citizens.

The immigration act deemed that those born abroad to US citizens parents were considered as natural born Citizens. Thus, making it very clear what was the most important aspect of being ‘natural born’. Thus, in 1790 we have what was considered the critical element in codified law - PARENTS who are citizens.

Of course the comeback will be the passage was dropped in later versions of the act. True. Likely because it attempted to modify a Constitutional law - Article I, Section 2. It modified it by dropping the jus soli requirement all together in favor of only the jus sanguinis requirement. By inserting and then later dropping the passage Congress told us exactly, precisely what is required to be a natural born Citizen - jus sanguinis (the most important factor) and just soli (also a factor by far less important).

Equating native born to natural born is a recent invention to rationalize the current situation. History shows over and over again that native born (jus soli) has ever been equated to natural born Citizenship.


96 posted on 09/17/2011 9:25:33 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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