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To: Fire_on_High
I don't know all the details about how the database is maintained, and I haven't been able to find it on the internet. I would assume that only medical deaths would be counted, not accidental deaths.

The reason you do this is because until you actually do a medical study of each reaction, you can't really know whether the reaction was caused by the vaccine. But you can't afford to study them all. So they are all reported, and then samples are chosen to study, and that is how they can gauge actual issues with the medicine.

But the raw data is kept, because you can't really be sure that you haven't missed something. That's why I haven't really spoke to all the other reactions, although the studies have largely found them unrelated. I just speak about the deaths, because those were taken seriously, and every case where they had medical access to the dead person, they did a complete workup. That was 29 total, and none of them turned out to be caused by the vaccine.

I only know this stuff beause I've read up on the internet. A medical doctor would have much better information. I do consider myself smart enough to read medical terminology and understand it, but some here have questioned my faith in my own intelligence before.

Here's a link to one source: CDC - Reports of Health Concerns with the HPV vaccination. I will quote from it, but if you have interest in how vaccines are evaluated, you should go to the link and read the entire report, it's not long and it explains the 3 ways they evaluated adverse reactions.

VAERS Limitations
VAERS data cannot be used to prove a causal association between the vaccine and the adverse event. The only association between the adverse event and vaccination is temporal, meaning that the adverse event occurred sometime after vaccination. Therefore, the adverse event may be coincidental or it may have been caused by vaccination, however we cannot make any conclusions that the events reported to VAERS were caused by the vaccine.
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As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil® were distributed in the U.S. and VAERS received a total of 18,727 reports of adverse events following Gardasil® vaccination: 17,958 reports among females and 346 reports for males, of which 285 reports were received after the vaccine was licensed for males in October 2009. VAERS received 423 reports of unknown gender. Of the total number of VAERS reports following Gardasil®, 92% were considered to be non-serious, and 8% were considered serious.
The following paragraph uses one reaction to explain how people get all sorts of illnesses pretty much randomly, so you have to determine if the number that get an illness after the vaccine are MORE than you'd expect just by picking some random day:
Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) has been reported after vaccination with Gardasil® . GBS is a rare neurologic disorder that causes muscle weakness. It occurs in 1-2 out of every 100,000 people in their teens. A number of infections have been associated with GBS. There has been no indication that Gardasil® increases the rate of GBS above the rate expected in the general population, whether or not they were vaccinated.
And this paragraph discusses the latest death rate (higher than the page I was using before:
As of June 22, 2011 there have been a total 68 VAERS reports of death among those who have received Gardasil® . There were 54 reports among females, 3 were among males, and 11 were reports of unknown gender. Thirty two of the total death reports have been confirmed and 36 remain unconfirmed due to no identifiable patient information in the report such as a name and contact information to confirm the report. A death report is confirmed (verified) after a medical doctor reviews the report and any associated records. In the 32 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination.
This leads to the current CDC conclusion. Those who assume government is always wrong will ignore this. I believe that in non-political decision-making, an independent organization like the CDC is trustworthy:
Based on all of the information we have today, CDC recommends HPV vaccination for the prevention of most types of cervical cancer. As with all approved vaccines, CDC and FDA will continue to closely monitor the safety of HPV vaccines. Any problems detected with these vaccines will be reported to health officials, healthcare providers, and the public and needed action will be taken to ensure the public's health and safety.

The problem with attacking Gardasil on it's merits is that you are arguing with the medical community and the CDC, saying they are wrong and anecdotal evidence is right. I don't see a political or philosophical motivation for the CDC to misrepresent the drug (meaning I don't see what the CDC would gain from encouraging more people to take a drug if it was in fact hurting and killing people). That would take a conspiracy, and I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories.

119 posted on 09/18/2011 10:50:12 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thanks.

Honestly, I simply haven’t made up my mind on this one yet. I figure if there was enough truly solid evidence, it’d be pulled...as you pointed out, to think otherwise is getting into conspiracy a bit.

So far I’m mostly leaning towards keep it available, not mandatory.


132 posted on 09/18/2011 12:40:04 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (Gohmert ROCKS!)
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