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Obama Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires (Minimum Tax Dubbed "Buffett Rule")
The New York Times ^ | Saturday, September 17, 2011 | Jackie Calmes

Posted on 09/17/2011 4:54:13 PM PDT by kristinn

WASHINGTON — President Obama on Monday will call for a new minimum tax rate for individuals making more than $1 million a year to ensure that they pay at least the same percentage of their earnings as middle-income taxpayers, according to administration officials.

With a special joint Congressional committee starting work to reach a bipartisan budget deal by late November, the proposal adds a new and populist feature to Mr. Obama’s effort to raise the political pressure on Republicans to agree to higher revenues from the wealthy in return for Democrats’ support of future cuts from Medicare and Medicaid.

Mr. Obama, in a bit of political salesmanship, will call his proposal the “Buffett Rule,” in a reference to Warren E. Buffett, the billionaire investor who has complained repeatedly that the richest Americans generally pay a smaller share of their income in federal taxes than do middle-income workers, because investment gains are taxed at a lower rate than wages.

Mr. Obama will not specify a rate or other details, and it is unclear how much revenue his plan would raise. But his idea of a millionaires’ minimum tax will be prominent in the broad plan for long-term deficit reduction that he will outline at the White House on Monday.

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To: MikeGranby

Absolutely true.

We use to have income averaging to help with that.

But that’s long gone.

You work for years for something to finally pay off and then you get screwed in taxes as if you made that level of income every year.


61 posted on 09/18/2011 2:15:21 PM PDT by DB
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To: DB

I understand the concept and in theory I agree with you. But the reality today is that you are lucky to get a $12/hr. job which equates to roughly 480/wk minus $72 in taxes per week. Give the working poor a break, and pass a constitutional amendment preventing welfare/foodstamp recipients from voting.


62 posted on 09/18/2011 5:12:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: kristinn

Let me get this straight - Obama wants to take $535 million from Warren Buffet. What’s he going to do with the cash? Invest in more “green energy” companies?
Now I’m no fan of Buffet’s politics, but if I had $535 million, I would feel much more comfortable GIVING it to Warren Buffet to invest rather than letting the the bureaucrats at the DOE anywhere near it.


63 posted on 09/18/2011 5:20:10 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: kristinn

64 posted on 09/18/2011 5:27:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kristinn

By the way, when it comes to tax hikes, don’t you love the way Ubama and the Democrat newsroom scumbags use the word “ask”, when what they actually mean is “with a government jackboot on the neck, a gun to the head, and under threat of prison”?


65 posted on 09/18/2011 5:34:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: cripplecreek
"Buffett Rule"

We are being ruled by a buffoon.

66 posted on 09/19/2011 5:43:53 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Mr. Wright
Tax the "rich"?

Why, that's a BRILLIANT plan! It's a wonder that it hasn't been tried before!

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/s (just in case)

67 posted on 09/19/2011 6:00:02 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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To: Mr. Wright
Sorry for the non-sequitur-like post.

I was trying to post a general response to the article but I responded to Post #51 instead of Post #1...

68 posted on 09/19/2011 6:02:20 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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To: kristinn

How about an “Anti-billionaire Bill” Take anyone who is a Billionaire and liquidate them until they have only have 1 million dollars in total assets?

I am sure all the Obama Billionaires that support him would just love that plan.

Personally I want to see Warren Buffett go down over his stuipid statements and non-tax-paying habits.


69 posted on 09/19/2011 8:21:18 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: kristinn

0bummer is calling his tax the rich plan the “Buffet rule”

Guess he doesn’t know we know that buffet has spent millions and has ongoing legal suits with the IRS on his tax bills. He’s had like 20 attorneys working on it full time last 10 years or so.

I don’t hold that against Buffet but it makes his statements about not paying enough taxes look pretty disingenuous and self serving then to base policy on such statements, well then we get to the level of 0’s brinkmanship and political gaming playing.


70 posted on 09/19/2011 9:21:42 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Let’s make the tax rate 13% across the board for everything over $25k (indexed for inflation). No deductions, not tax breaks for anyone.

TERRIBLE IDEA. Grossly stupid, and congress would increase the flat rate every chance they got.

71 posted on 09/19/2011 2:27:05 PM PDT by VRWCmember (If it wern't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: VRWCmember

What is to stop them from raising the Fair Tax rates or hiding other taxes in the cost? Unless there is a constitutional amendment to set the rate at some percentage with no exceptions, Congress WILL make exceptions for “favored” companies (read that companies who bribe the congressmen with “campaign donations”) and they will tinker to make it “more fair”.


72 posted on 09/19/2011 3:06:17 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for lowering tax rates and even making the tax rates less progressive or flatter. I think the “flat rate” should be lower than 10%. I don’t mind having some level of exemptions and/or deductions to reduce the base. For a family of four, perhaps the exemption/deduction combo would mean that the flat rate applies to income above $48,000 or so. As with anything the difficulty is in the details. What income are you talking about? Just wages? Wages and interest earned? Wages and interest and dividend income? Wages and interest and dividend income and capital gains? What about rental income? Do you treat that differently, and if so what “deductions” do you allow for expenses of maintaining the rental property?


73 posted on 09/20/2011 5:54:28 AM PDT by VRWCmember (If it wern't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: VRWCmember

The tax rate should be low and the base very wide. Tax all forms of income and wages and capital gains, with capital gains tied to the rate of inflation.


74 posted on 09/20/2011 8:09:50 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: umgud
I think it would be better if gov’t just confiscated all net worth over $1 million. That would fix it. Right?

I know it's sarcasm but if you grabbed ALL of the wealth of the top one % it would fund government operations for only about 4-6 months at current spending levels.

Pathetic ain't it?

75 posted on 09/20/2011 8:17:48 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Watch what people DO, not what they say.)
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To: Centurion2000

Surely, someway, we can convince the citizenry that our biggest problem (of many) is a spending, not taxing problem.


76 posted on 09/20/2011 9:37:14 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Centurion2000

Obama is saying that they’re going to “ask” the wealthy to pay more. That’s the opposite of confiscation.

They’re going to “ask” nicely.

(He needs a repeated nut kicking for using the term “ask” when it comes to taxes.)

But, he IS playing to his base. It’s a rare sheeperal that will admit to the distasteful truth that all gov’t policy is implemented at gunpoint.


77 posted on 09/20/2011 9:39:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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