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To: KeyLargo

In my opinion this is going to take Obama down. Not because it is worse than smuggling guns across the border to Mexico, but because the left will grab onto it as an excuse to abandon Obama.

They are not wedded to the man, they are wedded to the idea of progressivism or socialism or communism. Just as the Soviet apologists used to say that communism never failed in the USSR because it was never tried, since Stalin took things ino another direction, the American left has to jettison Obama so they can say that true progressivism never was tried in the US. The easiest way to do that is to assail him for buddying up with billionaires and giving financial benefits to his supporters, since that is straight-up corruption by anyone’s definition.

I understand that John Kass is a conservative (I’m from Chicago and used to read him when I used to read the Tribune),and I am speaking more generally here about my prediction that this story is going to have legs.

I still don’t expect Obama to resign or to decline to run for re-election. I think he will torch the Democrat party to stay in office and seek vindication for his socialist agenda.

If you ask me (and I know you didn’t), I think the thing that has got him so depressed and enraged is that he grew up believing in the Cloward-Piven strategy, which argues that if we overload the system then the people will come running to the government for help and a socialist system can be imposed. Instead, it turns out that Obama “misunderestimated” the American people, who are calling instead for the jackboot of government to be lifted off of our necks. He can’t accept that, because that is the absolute strategic core of everything he has believed since young adulthood.


2 posted on 09/18/2011 9:59:05 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Piranha
the left will grab onto it as an excuse to abandon Obama...

They are not wedded to the man,...

The left is extremely utilitarian, like the devil. If they could jettison the big O and increase their odds of moving their agenda, then Obama will be toast, today. But the left is, indeed, wedded to Obam and this divorce will be ugly. I bet a donut that more that half the black voters will stay home on election day if Obama leaves office under pressure.

3 posted on 09/18/2011 10:14:45 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The unemployment problem only can be solved when Obama is unemployed.)
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To: Piranha

” Instead, it turns out that Obama “misunderestimated” the American people, who are calling instead for the jackboot of government to be lifted off of our necks. “ <<<

We hope you are right and that the Tea Party focuses on the singular theme that rocketed them to political power, that being the fiscal overeach that uncovered turns out to include outright corruption. If this same theme can remain the leading issue and the sole banner of the TP then even democrats will join us. However, I am afraid democrats will want to be for Romney. Dare I whisper that? Rick Perry will have to appeal to the Hispanic voters and at some point to the eastern Republicans to offset the mutiny ready democrats who are done with Obama. Congressional democrats looked like deer in headlights on Sunday talk shows. If they can’t get Obama to go away so they can beg Hillary to run, they may put her up at the convention. Then, all bets are off. Whaduhya think?


4 posted on 09/18/2011 10:28:10 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: Piranha
Piranha wrote:
In my opinion this is going to take Obama down. Not because it is worse than smuggling guns across the border to Mexico, but because the left will grab onto it as an excuse to abandon Obama.
I don't think so. Actually, the Party Propaganda Ministry would never have published any article or headline with the name "Solyndra" in it without the approval from The Won and his minions.

The administration is confident that the FBI has locked up or destroyed any evidence tying this administration to any scandal with Solyndra. The media is covering this because Issa and Upton will not find anything when they investigate. This is a diversion from Fast and Furious and other scandals.

I hope the FBI missed something, or that something will come out later, but I'm not confident that will happen.

The fact that the Washington Post and the LA Times have had articles about Solyndra is an indication of their confidence that any evidence of wrongdoing has been destroyed or hidden.

6 posted on 09/18/2011 10:33:14 AM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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