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Idaho Couple's Permit Fight Drags Wetlands Back to Supreme Court
New York Times/Greenwire ^

Posted on 09/19/2011 5:55:12 PM PDT by WilliamIII

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To: PAR35
There is benefit to that, but are you going to defund the US Army as well? Because that who isn't giving them the permit.

If it is the EPA objecting to the issuance of the permit how could a defunded EPA object.

Also if the land had previously been designated a wet land that should have been disclosed before the sale and be noted as a restriction on the deed.

As a man is construction I don’t think he would touch a piece of land with a wet land designation.

21 posted on 09/19/2011 8:23:18 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: USNBandit

Exactly right. A “wetland” is any low depression that collects a puddle in a rainstorm. There was a very dangerous intersection in Half Moon Bay, CA where a number of motorists and pedestrians were killed. The city wanted to put in a stop light, but couldn’t because the ditch beside the road was declared a “wetland” and they couldn’t put in any fill to provide a foundation and base for the stoplight standard.

We are governed by idiots with the long arm of the law behind them. Just sickening.


22 posted on 09/19/2011 8:25:15 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: OldDeckHand; tired_old_conservative; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; ...

SCOTUS ping.

(Anyone on/off, freepmail me.)


23 posted on 09/19/2011 8:32:39 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: ALPAPilot

Here in the San Francisco Bay Region, a land owner in Sonoma County had the Army Corps of Engineers declare his man-made stock pond a “wetland.” This is just another example of a Congress that can’t legislate it’s way out of it’s own ass. The Corps should be disbanded and the EPA shut down. They are simply class warfare types that object to people enjoying their own property. The other thing that they do is put a land owner on the permit merry-go-round. By the time that permit #4 is issued, permits 1,2 &3 have “expired.” Ergo, you go around and around and never get to build. I have had personal experiences with the Coast Guard with respect to “navigable:\” waterways. Your water runs into a drain, that runs into a creek, that runs into a river, that finally runs into San Francisco Bay. So by extension, your drainage is a “navigable waterway. Funny thing was, I didn’t see the Coast Guard Cutter parked out back.


24 posted on 09/19/2011 9:09:23 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: WilliamIII

I suspect that there is more to this story...like someone (well connected) next door not wanting the property to be developed.


25 posted on 09/19/2011 10:04:37 PM PDT by proudpapa (Palin-West - 2012)
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To: PAR35

I would defund the U.S. army as well. Whats the point of having an army if its used to rob us of our right to govern ourselfs and do with our own property as we see fit just like a foreign enemy would?

We might as well invite the communist Chinese the U.S. army has been charged with doing their repressive job for em.

Certainly de-fund the EPA and the army. Indeed if it were up to me I’d prosecute and jail the members of the said organizations that carried out theses unconstitutional usurpation.

Only following orders or “acts as written by congress” is no excuses for ignoring the clear limits of your congressional authority to rob a family of their rights. The Army Engineers should be made an example of.

Lawless Governments should NOT find it so easy to find agents to carry out their unauthorized evil.


26 posted on 09/20/2011 3:21:11 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Some years ago, I knew a developer who had done some site prep for a largish suburban commercial office / office-warehouse development. Cut in roads, graded for building pads, and, here’s the key point, put in some curb and gutter. Thing went slow, and the site ended up sitting for a couple years.

One of the building sites had curb and gutter around it such that it trapped rainwater. Guy goes out there and there are some cattails growing. RED FLAG, KLAXON ALARM - that could be considered a wetland!

He very quickly and quietly nuked the cattails and ripped out 20’ or so of the curb and gutter on the downhill side (what downhill there was, it was a pretty flat site) so that the water no longer got trapped. Problem solved.


27 posted on 09/20/2011 3:45:40 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: bamahead; All

” Government colluding with Government and using blatant extortion to annihilate any semblance of these American’s property rights.”

Like trying to stop Al Capone in 1920’s Chicago....


28 posted on 09/20/2011 6:32:37 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: FreedomPoster

He was very smart. What a totally absurd world we live in — and we let “the government of the people, by the people” do this to us!


29 posted on 09/20/2011 7:50:35 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

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30 posted on 09/21/2011 12:07:32 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: WilliamIII

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31 posted on 09/22/2011 2:53:56 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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