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Attorney General in Mexico: 200 Murders Result of Operation Fast and Furious
Town Hall ^ | 9//20/11 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 09/20/2011 11:37:47 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum

Congressional Representative Myrick’s update

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq9K90bvaX0&feature=related

somehow fits in BO’s big picture under the radar. A counter argument to what the ex branch was trying to set up?


41 posted on 09/20/2011 1:49:24 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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Still below the estimated 300 AIDS deaths (or maybe it was 300 cases) in Canada from the tainted blood from Arkansas prisons...one of the Clinton scandals that went unpunished. But give Fast & Furious time—undoubtedly there will be more murders in the future as a result of the program.


42 posted on 09/20/2011 2:17:29 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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...undoubtedly there will be more murders in the future as a result of the program.

Undoubtedly. In the end, the death toll will likely be not in the hundreds but thousands. And a lot of them will be in this country.

43 posted on 09/20/2011 2:51:31 PM PDT by Gritty (The US economy has been "stimulated" to a bloody pulp by the racketeers in Washington-Mark Steyn)
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To: Nachum

Wanna see REALLy scary stuff?

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/09/whistle-blowers-allege-corruption.html#more

Sometimes FBI guys —badge wearers— are even doing the selling!


44 posted on 09/20/2011 5:51:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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Obama has said directly to our legislators he will do nothing about the border in order to put pressure on the legislators to cave to his immigration demands.


45 posted on 09/20/2011 6:03:50 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: texmexis best

This is a great thread from a couple of days ago.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2780177/posts

Cloward-Piven: The Ultimate Goal of Gunwalker?
To the best of my knowledge, no previous U.S. administration has ever destabilized the government of a putatively friendly foreign power purely for domestic political gain.

The closest you can get would be the revolutionary movement in what is now Panama, that the U.S. nurtured to gain that area’s independence (from Nicaragua) — to facilitate building the Panama Canal. But that was a pre-existing revolutionary movement with pre-existing complaints against the Nicaraguan government that did not include stopping them from selling illegal drugs. (Editor’s note: Panama gained its independence from Colombia, not Nicaragua.)

The gains Obama & Co. seem to be seeking come in three flavors. Ranked in order of time-criticality from their POV, they are most likely:

1. Short-term: Increased illegal immigration from Mexico as people attempt to flee the increasing violence (allowing them to push the DREAM Act through, and “stacking the deck” in the next election via ACORN and SEIU);

2. Medium-term: Propaganda for tighter gun laws (possibly enacted by Executive Order, bypassing the Congress);

3. Long-term: Legalization of “recreational drugs,” helped by a “drug friendly” Mexican government, influenced by if not overtly controlled by the drug cartels.

I strongly suspect that (3) is the ultimate objective, with (1) and (2) being seen (at least by Obama & Co.) as “stepping-stones” to attaining it.
(end of excerpt)


I didn’t get the point of #3, until someone pointed out that it has to do with “demoralization”, a step on the way to continued subversion. I also think that for whatever the reason they were seeking to destablize the Mexican government. Any parallel to LightSquared and Solyndra on the “donations” end? As they said , this whole thing may have had many desired outcomes. I guess until someone from the top comes out and explains it all, we are free to keep speculating!


46 posted on 09/20/2011 7:50:11 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: texmexis best

This is a great thread from a couple of days ago.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2780177/posts

Cloward-Piven: The Ultimate Goal of Gunwalker?
To the best of my knowledge, no previous U.S. administration has ever destabilized the government of a putatively friendly foreign power purely for domestic political gain.

The closest you can get would be the revolutionary movement in what is now Panama, that the U.S. nurtured to gain that area’s independence (from Nicaragua) — to facilitate building the Panama Canal. But that was a pre-existing revolutionary movement with pre-existing complaints against the Nicaraguan government that did not include stopping them from selling illegal drugs. (Editor’s note: Panama gained its independence from Colombia, not Nicaragua.)

The gains Obama & Co. seem to be seeking come in three flavors. Ranked in order of time-criticality from their POV, they are most likely:

1. Short-term: Increased illegal immigration from Mexico as people attempt to flee the increasing violence (allowing them to push the DREAM Act through, and “stacking the deck” in the next election via ACORN and SEIU);

2. Medium-term: Propaganda for tighter gun laws (possibly enacted by Executive Order, bypassing the Congress);

3. Long-term: Legalization of “recreational drugs,” helped by a “drug friendly” Mexican government, influenced by if not overtly controlled by the drug cartels.

I strongly suspect that (3) is the ultimate objective, with (1) and (2) being seen (at least by Obama & Co.) as “stepping-stones” to attaining it.
(end of excerpt)


I didn’t get the point of #3, until someone pointed out that it has to do with “demoralization”, a step on the way to continued subversion. I also think that for whatever the reason they were seeking to destablize the Mexican government. Any parallel to LightSquared and Solyndra on the “donations” end? As they said , this whole thing may have had many desired outcomes. I guess until someone from the top comes out and explains it all, we are free to keep speculating!


47 posted on 09/20/2011 7:50:11 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: gaijin

Some TexMex history from the 90’s.

http://www.elandar.com/bush/amigos.html

Get past the half-hearted attempt to incriminate the Bushes by the company they kept. The company they kept is the story.


48 posted on 09/20/2011 10:10:29 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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