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Proposed critical habitat for rare frog bigger in Ariz., N.M.
Arizona Daily Star ^

Posted on 09/22/2011 3:28:37 PM PDT by SandRat

Increase in critical habitat for a rare spotted frog ...

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Arizona; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: envirowackos; suit; surrender
Envirowackos at it again. Government surrender monkeys helping kill jobs and take away private property.
1 posted on 09/22/2011 3:28:43 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat

Want to save the frogs? Make it private property and let people buy and profit from the little critters. They won’t let their investment go extinct.


2 posted on 09/22/2011 3:32:24 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Thank you, Bob!)
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To: SandRat

Is that the frog with five legs?


3 posted on 09/22/2011 3:32:52 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: SandRat
UN Agenda 21 ,related article:

The UN Wildlands Project…Taking Over America Starting With Florida

4 posted on 09/22/2011 3:35:03 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: SandRat

Was out on a drilling job this morning. Talked to one of the supervisors who said that the BLM is changing the way P&A markers are to be displayed. The state requires a 6-foot above ground steel pole marker with the name of the well, location, etc. permanently welded to the marker. In some locations BLM is requiring a tombstone like marker that will no doubt be run over some day. Reason? The pole marker is used as a perch by hawks who prey on the endangered Lesser Prairie-Chicken. Of course, there are power poles all over the oil patch that provide even higher perches and so far BLM is not requiring buried lines.


5 posted on 09/22/2011 3:41:33 PM PDT by CedarDave (Sarah: "Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers")
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To: SandRat

Nothing but a land grab.

The Chron had a picture of a suppose endangered frog.
I thought that looks like the one living in my flower pot.
I went out and uncovered him and sure enough he looked just like the one picture. I covered him back up. He is REALLY BIG. Actually he reminded me of Jabba the Hut.


6 posted on 09/22/2011 3:43:40 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: CedarDave

No one ever accused a Bureacrat of having common sense.

The Hawks have been in Housto and Galvaston looking for dinner for months now. People with small pooches have to check first before letting them out.

the Hawks are smarter than the BLM.


7 posted on 09/22/2011 3:48:46 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: SandRat
Why would the Environuts want a frog gigger?

. . . oh . . . never mind.


8 posted on 09/22/2011 3:56:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

A communist land grab scam. All they need to do to save any animal is to keep the illegal aliens out from killing and burning everything. And then they can’t murder or steal everything.


9 posted on 09/22/2011 4:12:26 PM PDT by lephantom
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10 posted on 09/22/2011 4:13:14 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: CedarDave

I just read something that says Prairie Chickens avoid nesting near power lines, so that probably explains why they are not worried about them. I guess the marker poles are not tall enough to trigger this avoidance instinct.


11 posted on 09/22/2011 4:14:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

This is what zoos are for - round up the frogs and put them in zoos where they can be protected and develop the hell out of those areas. We can even clone the damn things but this idea of having to “preserve” their habitat at the expense of humans is a return to paganism and nature worship.


12 posted on 09/22/2011 4:16:44 PM PDT by JMS
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To: opentalk

Thank You very much. I think we all would be shocked at how few Americans know how bad the situation of Land confiscation has become.


13 posted on 09/22/2011 4:22:40 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: SandRat

The habitat is ALWAYS larger, because the damn critters are NEVER “rare” or “endangered”!!

The claims are inventions of the anti-people, anti-industry crowd!

It takes so long to prove the fraud that the projects go away.

There needs to be a law that says “If you believe you’ve identified and “endangered species”, you must file the claim by date “X”.
None of the crap about waiting until somebody wants to be productive, then you show up with some fabricated claim, to get in the way!


14 posted on 09/22/2011 4:38:50 PM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: ari-freedom

One of my father’s favorite foods was frog legs.


15 posted on 09/22/2011 5:31:44 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: SandRat

Michael Robinson does nothing but file lawsuit after lawsuit for the Center for Biological Diversity. This incremental environmentalism is ruining the west. It won’t be long before before some wildlife biologist tresspasses across my ranch down river from the ‘new’ habitat and sees the frogs in the irrigation ditch or one of the ponds and dclares the ranch critical habitat. This folishness has to stop now!


16 posted on 09/22/2011 6:12:52 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est (Palin 2012)
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To: JMS

Personally, I think the EPA goes way too far, protecting things that rightfully shouldn’t even be classified as separate species, but rather local subspecies. However, I think you’re going a little too far. The Earth is a huge place, and humans don’t need every square mile for ourselves. Plus, there are benefits to preserving species, some that we can’t quantify at all because we just don’t know how useful we might find them in the future (for medicine, etc). Once they’re gone, we’ll never really be able to get them back. Captivity isn’t a solution for a lot of animals, since they’ll just die out slower in captivity, and cloning is a pie in the sky solution.

Still, we need to reform the EPA or trash it and let the states handle it, since they are not practicing reasonable conservation, but just pushing a leftist anti-capitalist agenda.


17 posted on 09/22/2011 8:46:22 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I disagree, captivity has enabled species such as the Giant Panda to survive and besides, species die out regularly. The fact is, the EPA has no business creating regulations (laws) as it not a constitutionally mandated organization. If we had to preserve every species to find out if they might be useful for medicine there would be no room for humans at all. If we want to protect species we should take them into custody rather than ceding the earth to them and penning in people and destroying our economy.


18 posted on 09/22/2011 9:34:48 PM PDT by JMS
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To: JMS

Sure, there are some species that will only survive in captivity, but it still takes a hell of a lot of work and money to keep them going, and you are always going to be fighting a losing battle at that point since you have a vulnerable population with limited genetic diversity and constant breeding obstacles. Maybe they will last a few decades or even a few centuries, but you are only postponing extinction with that plan.

Keep in mind, I never suggested we preserve every species out there. Like I said, most of the so-called “species” shouldn’t be classified as species at all, and proper classification would probably show most of them aren’t in any kind of real danger.


19 posted on 09/22/2011 10:54:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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