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Voters in battleground districts even more hostile to Dems than in 2010
Hotair ^ | 09/23/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 09/23/2011 2:11:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

After the midterm elections, Democrats argued that the Tea Party-inspired turnout was a fluke, and that grassroots voters would start turning on Republicans as soon as they had a share in responsibility for governance. According to the latest Democracy Corps survey of battleground Congressional districts, neither are true, at least not yet. Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg surveyed voters in 60 Republican-held purple districts and found that voters are even more sour on Democrats than in 2010:

One of the Democratic party’s leading pollsters released a survey of 60 Republican-held battleground districts today painting an ominous picture for Congressional Democrats in 2012. The poll shows Democratic House candidates faring worse than they did in the 2010 midterms, being dragged down by an unpopular president who would lose to both Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Mitt Romney. …

Instead of an overall anti-incumbent sentiment impacting members of both parties, voters are taking more of their anger out on Democrats. When voters were asked whether they’re supporting the Republican incumbent or a Democratic candidate, 50 percent preferred the Republican and just 41 percent backed the Democrat.

Voters in these districts said they were more supportive of Republicans than they were during the 2010 midterms, when 48 percent said they backed the Republican candidate and 42 percent said they backed the Democrat. (Republicans won 55 percent of the overall vote in these 60 battleground districts, while Democrats took 43 percent.) In 2010, Republicans netted 63 House seats – their best showing since 1948.

That’s not to say that Republicans don’t have anything to worry about:

However, the incumbent Republicans average 50% support for re-election, an achievement gained mainly through consolidation of Republican voters, Greenberg notes. That’s a level where incumbents generally win re-election.

With Democratic support falling from last year, it’s hard to argue that Republicans are in much danger of losing these swing districts as a whole, which would mean that 2010 was more of a realigning election than a fluke. And this result shows that 2012 could be an even stronger realignment. Greenberg only polled in districts already held by Republicans, a not-unfair paradigm in that Democrats obviously want to target these in 2012 as the easiest to potentially win back. However, as Greenberg discovers, Democrats in general and especially Barack Obama continue to lose ground in these districts:

Republicans have lost ground, too, but not as much as Democrats. The party as a whole has lost 5 points rather than 9, and Republicans in Congress only 4 points to the -11 for their counterparts. Voter assessment for Barack Obama in these districts has shifted from a 48/47 in March to 41/55 this month, a fall of 15 points in the gap. Among independents in these districts, it’s not quite as bad, but only because Obama’s approval in these districts was atrocious anyway. Obama went from a 39/54 in March to a 35/59, a 9-point change in the gap, with 48% now strongly disapproving of his performance.

Greenberg says that enthusiasm for Republicans has dropped, but that’s going to change in 2012 regardless of what happens in Congress because of one overriding fact: Obama will be on the top of the ticket. That will bring more Republicans and angry independents to the polls in these districts, and they will vote for Republican incumbents. Demoralized Democrats may still trek to the polls to salvage down-ticket races, but it’s not likely to be enough. A President at 41/55 and 35/59 among independents is an albatross for the rest of his party’s candidates on any ticket, especially in battleground districts.

Perhaps Greenberg should start looking at Democratic-held districts instead of those held by Republicans. If NY-09 is an example, we may need to redefine “battleground” districts, and the result will likely not be pretty for Democrats.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: battleground; democrats; voters

1 posted on 09/23/2011 2:11:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No kidding? Really?


2 posted on 09/23/2011 2:13:48 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Personally...I’m feeling hostile towards both parties.

They both suck, just the dims suck more.


3 posted on 09/23/2011 2:36:06 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Elizabeth Warren is a Moron!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If it was not for the MSM doing everything they can to keep BarryO’s true nature from the American people the Democrat party would go extinct.


4 posted on 09/23/2011 2:42:34 PM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams? Getting madder every day)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE; SeekAndFind

I chuckle to myself when I hear media report that people give Congress a higher disapproval rating than they do the President. They like to remind us of that rating because the GOP controls congress - but surely they don’t believe this translates into a belief that the Dems can recapture congress, or that the people would choose Obama over Congress, or that control of Congress is at play!

At the end of the day, time and again with only rare exception or in some very close districts, the people send their own congressperson back each and every term, over and over again. They may hate congress, but they rarely take it out on their own congressperson. Only once in a while do they flush out a bunch of ‘em - like we saw in 2010. I don’t think its going to swing back the other way in 2012. If anything I think the GOP will extend its gains.


5 posted on 09/23/2011 2:43:20 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

Would be interesting to see where the midpoint is, where dim congressional support is over 50.


6 posted on 09/23/2011 2:46:11 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Hussein’s party must be pulverized in the next elections. I want to see them pushed so far down, they have to look up to the sewer. Morally, they’re already at that point, so I want them there ELECTorally.

Then, we can get to work on the fake conservatives in the Republican party....removing those unconstitutionalists en masse via the same way.


7 posted on 09/23/2011 3:01:59 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: SeekAndFind
Interesting within limits.

Why do people take a democrat pollster, discussing Republicans, and trust or believe any of it?!?

Stupifyin', Jones!

You can bet real money that the real numbers are much worse for the democrats.

8 posted on 09/23/2011 4:43:13 PM PDT by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The sewers are full of rats. It would make a perfect home for liberals.

The Republicans better have the stones to undo all of the damage BO has done.


9 posted on 09/23/2011 5:19:11 PM PDT by MAKOTHEDOG
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To: SeekAndFind

Ed Morrissey is too kind. I want to see the democrat party declared a seditious organization, the leadership indicted for treason, and, if found guilty, hanged. Give their supporters the option to take $10,000, renounce their citizenship forever and sail one-way to the country of their choice.

We need to deal with this leftist scum infesting America one way or another. If we don’t, I guarantee these commies and Nazis will try to kill us next time. It’s time to solve this problem once and for all. If we don’t, prepare for a long and bloody second civil war within the next 25 years.


10 posted on 09/23/2011 5:26:59 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: BenKenobi

Yes although it is harder to call a House seat than a Presidential election or a generic Congressional ballot.
It was thought that Republicans were close to maxing out. I don’t expect Dems to get control of the House but neither do I expect Repubs to get, say, 290 seats.


11 posted on 09/23/2011 7:05:22 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

You’ll get no argument from me.Most of them suck out loud.The corruption is way out of control.


12 posted on 09/23/2011 7:36:59 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: scrabblehack

LEAN R - 25

CA-11 (+1D)
CA-20 (+1D)
GA-2 (+1D)
IN-2 (+1D)
KY-6 (+1D)
NM-1 (+2D)
NY-1 (+1D)
NY-23 (+1D)
OR-5 (+2D)
VA-11 (+1D)
WA-2 (+1D)
UT-2 (+2D)
AZ-8 (+1D)
AZ-7 (+2D)
MO-3 (+1D)
IA-1 (+1D)
IA-2 (+2D)
IA-3 (+2D)
MN-1 (+1D)
WI-3 (+1D)
MI-9 (+1D)
PA-4 (+1D)
PA-12 (+1D)
NY-22 (+2D)
MA-10 (+2D)

Battleground - 23

HI-1 (+3D)
NC-7 (+4D)
NC-8 (+4D)
OR 4 (+4D)
WA 9 (+5D)
CA-47 (+5D)
CO-7 (+5D)
TX-25 (+4D)
MO-5 (+4D)
MI-5 (+4D)
KY-3 (+5D)
NC-11 (+4D)
NC-13 (+5D)
WV-3 (+5D)
OH-13 (+5D)
OH-10 (+4D)
NJ-12 (+3D)
NJ-6 (+5D)
NY-4 (+4D)
CT-4 (+3D)
CT-5 (+4D)
RI-1 (+3D)
MA-4 (+5D)

ME-2 (+5D)

SAFE D (105)

WA 7
OR 3
CA 1
CA 17
CA 14
CA 6
CA 5
CA 7
CA 9
CA 8
CA 12
CA 13
CA 14
CA 15
CA 16
CA 30
CA 36
CA 37
CA 35
CA 33
CA 39
CA 34
CA 38
CA 32
CA 29
CA 27
CA 43
CA 53
NV 1
AZ 4
CO 1
TX 20
TX 29
TX 9
TX 18
TX 30
LA 2
MO 1
MN 4
MN 5
WI 2
WI 4
IL 12
IL 9
IL 5
IL 4
IL 7
IL 3
IL 1
IL 2
MI 12
MI 13
MI 14
TN 9
MS 2
AL 7
FL 3
FL 23
FL 19
FL 20
FL 17
SC 6
NC 12
VA 3
VA 8
OH 17
OH 11
PA 14
PA 2
PA 1
MD 5
MD 7
MD 8
MD 4
MD 3
MD 2
NJ 1
NJ 8
NJ 9
NJ 10
NJ 13
NY 27
NY 28
NY 6
NY 5
NY 8
NY 9
NY 10
NY 11
NY 12
NY 14
NY 15
NY 16
NY 17
NY 7
NY 18
CT 1
CT 3
RI 2
MA 1
MA 9
MA 7
MA 8
VT 1
HI 2

LEAN D - 35

MA-5 (+6D)
PA-17 (+6D)
PA-13 (+6D)
DE-1 (+6D)
ME-1 (+6D)
OR-1 (+6D)
WA 1 (+8)
WA 6 (+8)
CA 51 (+10)
CA 23 (+9)
CA 10 (+10)
CA 18 (+8)
NM 3 (+7)
CO 2 (+9)
OK 2 (+7)
TX 16 (+10)
TX 28 (+7)
TX 15 (+7)
AR 4 (+9)
MN 7 (+8)
MI 15 (+8)
IN 1 (+10)
IN 7 (+10)
TN 5 (+7)
GA 12 (+7)
FL 11 (+10)
NC 1 (+9)
NC 4 (+7)
OH 9 (+9)
NY 21 (+9)
NY 2 (+7)
CT 2 (+10)
MA 2 (+7)
MA 3 (+8)
MA 6 (+7)


13 posted on 09/24/2011 2:20:43 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: scrabblehack

Right now they are probably sitting at 267 R - 168.

If they get their 25 battleground house seats, that will get them 292.

It’s very possible for the Republicans to get 290, a swing of 5 percent will do it for them.


14 posted on 09/24/2011 2:24:00 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: BenKenobi

A shift of 6 will be enough for the largest republican majority, ever.


15 posted on 09/24/2011 2:32:56 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: BenKenobi

Surely PA-4 and PA-12 won’t both survive reapportionment.


16 posted on 09/24/2011 6:34:26 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: BenKenobi

Surely PA-4 and PA-12 won’t both survive reapportionment.


17 posted on 09/24/2011 6:34:26 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack

True, this is before redisctricting, but seeing as redisctricting beefs up red states over blue, the Republicans will benefit.


18 posted on 09/24/2011 10:49:11 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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