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1 posted on 09/26/2011 9:01:36 PM PDT by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

Welcome to the party.


2 posted on 09/26/2011 9:03:12 PM PDT by Marie (Rock you like a Herman-CAIN!)
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I can... its called cheap farm labor...


3 posted on 09/26/2011 9:04:23 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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Maybe he’s heartless?


4 posted on 09/26/2011 9:04:39 PM PDT by reaganaut (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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hmm I’m for the fence, against tuition but I’m also against e-verify.
I do agree with Newt that if we’re going to have such a system, it should be run by American Express or some other company that knows what it is doing and not by the same bureaucrats who file student aid applications in the Dept of Ed.


6 posted on 09/26/2011 9:05:54 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Mike10542

Um, yeah.

Perry is not a hard conservative. Sorry for those that bought into his momentary climb, but he’s a “squish” with just differing squishy parts.

He is Romney with less national experience, less money, and seriously less mano-y-mano communication skills.


9 posted on 09/26/2011 9:06:36 PM PDT by JoenTX (Don't Tread on Me)
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There’s nothing commonsense about taking a position on something one knows absolutely nothing about.


10 posted on 09/26/2011 9:07:18 PM PDT by Oceander (www.attackwatch.com - don't forget to turn yourself in!)
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I will be all for the border fence as soon as you explain how you are going to run a fence down the center of the Rio Grande without denying Texans access to US waters that they make a living on. You can not build a wall on the Texas/Mexico border, there is a really big river there and several lakes.


11 posted on 09/26/2011 9:07:47 PM PDT by txroadkill (Ghandi would have smacked 0bama in the head)
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I could care less who you support. For me, the government is like stopping a speeding train. There is no one out there that is really going to change anything. Sure, superficial change around the edges, but nothing more.


16 posted on 09/26/2011 9:12:05 PM PDT by Dave W
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I'm Done With Rick Perry

Might I suggest a new candidate to support?


22 posted on 09/26/2011 9:16:27 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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Perry is a RINO. I will never vote for him...


26 posted on 09/26/2011 9:21:21 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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I am as dead set as anybody against any open-borders person being the Republican nominee.

But even I have problems with the idea that the federal government should presume to mandate that every business in the country must run all prospective employees through a government database before they may be hired.

Obviously, all federal government agencies should be required to use it and each state should require its government agencies to use it.

As to the private sector, I think what might work is instead of making use of e-verify mandatory, it is made a “safe harbor” so that if a business uses it and the database tells them an employee is okay, they are protected if it turns out that employee is not okay.


39 posted on 09/26/2011 9:35:31 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (Herman Cain: We can have high fences and open doors, all at the same time!)
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I don’t have a problem about his lack of support for a border fence. I think the logistical issue of a fence splitting the Rio Grande is a legitimate objection, agree with him or not.

I don’t know anything about him being against E-verify, so I am going to educate myself about that.

As for the in-state tuition for illegal aliens, I don’t support it. I think there are SOME honest reasons for supporting it, although I don’t agree with them. My big problem was his saying those not in agreement with him don’t have a heart. That was stupid, but also hostile, and I don’t like that.

I am not ready to throw in the towel on Perry, but I am in wait and watch mode.


41 posted on 09/26/2011 9:36:10 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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Anyone that can't understand the need for a border fence, the need for E-Verify, and NO government handouts to illegals....

Especially the latter. It's why most of them come up here in the first place -- free queso.

47 posted on 09/26/2011 9:40:00 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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I was a half-hearted supporter at one time, but I don’t like too many of his positions. I’m moving on.


53 posted on 09/26/2011 9:48:49 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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It doesn’t address the immigration problem completely, it cost the federal gov revenue (about 15-17billion) and it
is not perfectly accurate.

And many employers pay under the table.

Also, if it were mandatory for all US employers, it would put a huge burden (costs of billions) on Social Security Administration.


54 posted on 09/26/2011 9:50:13 PM PDT by TexMom7
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There're concerns national mandatory E-Verify moves everyone closer to a National ID. That debate has come up on congress in the last week or so.

Business killed it in the Texas legislature over, in part, cost overhead.

Hutchinson was for mandatory E-Verify, I don't know if Perry offered a specific reason other than saying it wouldn't make a difference to what's happening in the country but I think that was a reference to the porous border.

57 posted on 09/26/2011 9:51:41 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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All good points Mike, but there is much more. The man literally encourage this violent illegal immigration lawless attack. You never reward those who have no respect.


58 posted on 09/26/2011 9:52:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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No fence will work. Waste of money, time. Others have expressed very well reasons why.
As for tuition, the kids already live in TX, require them to be residents in state 2-3 years, law. They get no special treatment, same as all who are residents. Pay their own way.


68 posted on 09/26/2011 9:58:09 PM PDT by rose
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What are your ideas on how to secure the border?


71 posted on 09/26/2011 10:04:08 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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Here’s my list...from best to worst.

1. Sarah Palin
2. Herman Cain
3. Newt Gingrich
4. Rick Santorum
5. Michelle Bachman
6. Rick Perry
7. Mitt Romney
8. Ron Paul
9. Jon Huntsman


73 posted on 09/26/2011 10:04:26 PM PDT by proudpapa (Palin-West - 2012)
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