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After Demise Of ‘Don’t Ask,’ Activists Call For End To Military Ban On Transgenders
The Washington Times ^ | 9/28/11 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 09/29/2011 2:24:49 PM PDT by Lmo56

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Comment #181 Removed by Moderator

To: Sola Veritas

I understand your point now, thank you


182 posted on 10/02/2011 2:27:57 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: NFHale

Your post explains why it is so important to the left to destroy the family, to glorify single motherhood and distant uninvolved fathers.

We are seeing what they wanted to happen all along and the reasons why they wanted it.


183 posted on 10/02/2011 2:29:49 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Lmo56

The question during the last debate was: “Do you intend to circumvent the progress that’s been made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military?”

The uproar was that the soldier was booed for asking this question.

The uproar should have been that this fag wasn’t kicked out immediately. What a disgrace.


184 posted on 10/02/2011 2:48:17 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Jvette

which is why the right and the GOP need to speak up about social issues, talk about how the family has been destroyed , talk about this,

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

The more silent we stay the more they get their agenda passed.


185 posted on 10/02/2011 2:49:39 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: Lmo56

As Obama greets the gay guy that called in during the gop debates and rebukes the Tea Pary folks for “booing the soldier” but I remember when the Dem delegates booed the Boy Scouts at their convention in Calif. when algore ran...not many comments from the lefties on that one. Obama’s man Panetta is killing the retirees with serious cuts..this is only the beginning..more are on the way for retirees that fought for the likes of O...IF the MILITARY is being cut..shouldn’t the COMMANDER IN CHIEF ALSO TAKE HITS? HE IS THE HEAD OF THE ARMED FORCES...TRICARE Fees Increase: Annual TRICARE Prime fees for working-age military retirees will increase by 13 percent beginning Saturday, which ups the single rate from $230 to $260, and the family rate from $460 to $520. In an attempt to justify the increase, the Defense Department said rates had not increased since they were first created in 1994, whereas health costs for almost 10 million active duty personnel, retirees, reservists and their families, have ballooned from $19 billion in 2001 to $53 billion this year. Some veteran and military service organizations acquiesced to the fee increase because it was “reasonable,” but the VFW did not, and will continue to lobby against all attempts to balance the budget on the backs of those who have worn the uniform. Survivors of active duty deceased sponsors and medically retired service members and their dependents are exempt from the increase, and retirees already in the program will not pay the new fee until January. Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith said more “modest annual increases” are planned in the future.


186 posted on 10/02/2011 4:32:36 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: APatientMan

Who wants to bet that the MOH is awarded to a flamer in the very near future?


187 posted on 10/02/2011 5:49:58 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Eagles6

how many will now be promoted , how many will be kicked out in training because they’re useless only for them to sue claiming discrimination?


188 posted on 10/02/2011 6:57:22 PM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: manc

Yes, they have cowed us into silence. Fear of being called all
kinds of things such as racist, homophobic, extreme, selfish and the list could go on and on.

When I hear “conservatives” say we must put social issues on the back burner in order to regain power and work on the economic issues, I want to scream.

We are in this economic mess because our society is falling apart due to the degradation of family and other traditional values this country was founded upon.

They don’t see that the two go hand in hand.


189 posted on 10/02/2011 7:24:27 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: ELVISNIXON.com
Man has as many MASTERS as he has VICES.

I like that. Kind of like Edmund Burke:

"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites--in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;--in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;--in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters."
-- Edmund Burke

190 posted on 10/02/2011 8:00:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Jvette; manc

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.—Dietrich Bonhoeffer


191 posted on 10/02/2011 8:03:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: All
I've had a bad feeling about this thread much of the weekend.

Virtually everyone on Free Republic believes repealing DADT to allow open homosexuals in the military was a bad thing. Many of us believe having **ANY** homosexuals in the military, open and “out” or otherwise, is a bad idea.

However, very few of us believe a second civil war is imminent, or that targeting the children of Army commanders is a good idea.

Comments have been said on this thread which, if they got read by the liberals, could cause serious problems. I'm not attacking the intent behind the comments — I don't know people's hearts, and in the case of virtually all of those posting, I don't even know their posting history here on Free Republic.

However, think back to the 1960s and early 1970s when conservatives quite correctly targeted moderately liberal Democrats for quiet support and association with groups like Students for a Democratic Society and the Black Panthers, and making unwise comments which indicated they supported the radical agendas of those groups. We are known by the company that we keep, and it's quite clear that Free Republic is not a site supporting neo-Confederate views, secessionism, or violent armed revolution against the American government.

That's especially important in our current political context. Look at what happened with Republicans taking the seats once held by Sen. Teddy Kennedy and Rep. Wiener — those seats should **NEVER** have gone Republican, and it shows just how angry people are at the Democratic Party, even in some of the most liberal parts of the United States. The political processes of a free republic are working, and it looks like President Obama and his political party are going to lose by large margins. Why give liberals fodder to attack us? Does that not run the risk of dragging defeat out of the jaws of victory?

Not only is talk of secession and armed revolution unwise, it is also unnecessary, and beyond that, could end up being seriously counterproductive.

Let's focus on supporting our military, and for those of us who are civilians, advocating for things via the political process to help our military that uniformed soldiers cannot (and should not) be doing while wearing the uniform. Let's avoid discussions of things which could cause major damage not only to our military but also to the entire conservative movement.

193 posted on 10/03/2011 5:32:39 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Jvette

exactly

I am sick and tired of the GOP even just now on FOX being cowardly over the homosexual agenda.
I am fed up of the cowards who say lets not talk about the homosexual, social issues .
DOMA is now going tom be overturned, and for you cowards sitting there saying , don’t talk about it or I have a friend and they’re nice is destroying the backbone of this country and that is family.
Read the communist manifesto of 1963 and see what they’re doing and have done, WAKE UP SPEAK UP, so what is they call you a name, they’re being intolerant of you and traditions, family, morals, even your religion, even some church goers say they have no problem with homosexuals. Then you poeple should be quitting church.

This woman has just said on TV that obama will go against DOMA, we all know that if don’t ask was overturned then the next one will be DOMA AND THE GOP TRY TO REMAIN NEUTRAL.

I have no idea if any republican strategists come on here but if you are then here is a message for you.

The majority of this country does not want openly serving homosexuals , most in the military does not want it.
Most in this country are opposed to the homosexual agenda and if you do not think so then look at every state who has voted, look at those officials who backed the agenda and now booted out and will be booted in in NY state.

IT IS HIGH TIME THAT EVERY RIGHT WING, PERSON SPEAKS UP AND STOPS BEING A COWARD.

Ban the likes of Hannity and others who say they’re conservative but are liberal on social issues.


194 posted on 10/03/2011 6:32:32 AM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: darrellmaurina

there you have it.
sorry but homosexuals and the left want us to remain silent over their agenda, keeping quiet enables the left to further destroy this country.

I never will support openly serving homosexuals, I never will think they’re married and I will not accept them as the normal population.

What is normal about having sex with strangers in dog parks, in public, poking another man up his crap hole. it not even what nature intended as they cannot reproduce.

You want to talk about the 60’s then look at more modern times, every state which has voted on the marriage has voted down homosexual marriage.
Look at officials who have voted for the homosexual agenda, they are or have been booted out.

See we the majority do not want it and when you say about civil war then I suggest you see what the left has been saying and still say about a war.

We need all to speak up about this homosexual agenda because right now this is going in the direction of overturning DOMA and overturning millions upon millions of votes in states.


195 posted on 10/03/2011 6:39:54 AM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: Lmo56

mARK


196 posted on 10/03/2011 6:43:17 AM PDT by sport
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To: little jeremiah
Just saw on FOX this morning two women, one being the RNC spokeswoman another some goofy looking weird woman,. The loony looking woman said zero has been a firm supporter of the homosexual agenda and the republicans know that supporting the overturn of DADT and overturning DOMA is a winning thing. What does the RNC woman say, well not much exactly except that she can't see him doing anything over DOMA until he gets the next election and then she can see him looking to overturn DOMA. So the RNC knows zero is planning to get rid of DOMA but will not run AD's , not speak up , leave homosexuals in the miltiary OF FOR CRYING OUT LOUD WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE COWARDS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY AND SOME THINK THEY'RE JUST NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS HAVING A GOOD TIME WHO WANT TO BE EQUAL read this if you think that http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm The cowards who stay silent or think it is normal is helping the manifesto and looking to further destroy this country. We want to be left alone. We want just civil right. We want to be not classed as freaks so we want the hate crime law. Stop homosexual bullying in the schools . We have civil unions but we want marriage . We want to be in the boy scouts and be with kids. We want to adopt kids and raise them. We want to serve and we won't tell if you do not ask, after all it's a private issue. We want the overturn of DADT. We want cross dressers to serve openly now. We can marry and fight for our country but cannot be married in the state of We want the overturn of DOMA and throw out millions of votes from the past. We want this taught in schools as the federal Govt now looks as us as equals. We want the sex age lowered for men and boys ot have sex. We think boys are men at 13 so why do they have to wait for sex with another man. Then comes other groups, more than one wife, consenting adults incest should be legal. after all it is a private thing and consenting adults sex with animals, hey after all if is a private thing. That is where all of this going and for anyone to sit there and shut the hell up and not fight this agenda is not understanding what their real agenda is.
197 posted on 10/03/2011 6:53:09 AM PDT by manc (Hannity the fraud he admitted he's socially liberal he's no conservative marriage=1man+ 1 woman)
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To: ELVISNIXON.com

Truth is beautiful. I love that, will add to my quotes file.


198 posted on 10/03/2011 7:34:58 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: manc

Everything you say is correct. Did you see that video “Grinding America Down”? If you didn’t - can’t remember who I sent it to, I’ve posted it a couple of times (got it from DJMacWoW), it tells the history of leftist organizations and how they’ve infiltrated our country in many ways and fronts. And destruction of morality is definitely one of their tactics - by destroying morality, one destroys marriage and family, and then society is broken and chaotic, and easier to take over.

The Republican party is just as much an enemy of the Constituion and our freedoms and rights at this point, as the Dems, because they either allow the Dems’ work to be done, or stand by silently, or help them. Either most of them (there are a few good ones) are perverts, FOP (friends of perverts), cowards, or care only for their own enrichment and position and nothing else.

We need leaders on all levels who are COURAGEOUS and guided by a true moral compass. Nothing less or the future is so dark that we read of similar disastrous chaos followed by anarchy followed by either dictatorship or robber barons, in history.


199 posted on 10/03/2011 7:41:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: manc
IT IS HIGH TIME THAT EVERY RIGHT WING, PERSON SPEAKS UP AND STOPS BEING A COWARD.

You could be a one many army, manc. You are absolutely correct. And here is another point - many mush headed people who support homo-rights only do so because - they do not know the TRUTH of the "gay" life or the homosexual agenda. They're ignorant. The homo agenda pushers have purposely hidden their real goals and their real life from the public. If the truth was out there, the entire homo agenda would be rejected by most people who are now for it. The light of truth shone on the filth and evil is just what they don't want.

Thus, all these politicians, talk show people etc who are silent on these two points - the reality of homosexual acts and how filthy and destructve they are, and the homosexual agenda and how vicious and destructive it is - are PART OF THE PROBLEM!

So, what can each of us do at this point? That is up to each of us - some have money, some don't, some can influence others around us, some not so much - but we can all do something. Teaching our children, our childrens' friends, talking to neighbors, writing letters to the paper, copying info about the "gay" agenda from here or other sites and emailing it to people, or printing it out and giving it to others. At least we won't have the guilt of knowing we did nothing!

Maybe I should put together a summary of some stuff - say two or three pages - of basic truths that could be easily sent to people. I'm crappy at layout and formatting and stuff though.

200 posted on 10/03/2011 7:52:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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