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Obama impeachment a possibility, says Ron Paul
Politico ^ | 10.3.2011 | DAN HIRSCHHORN

Posted on 10/03/2011 2:35:41 PM PDT by Razzz42

“I put responsibility on the president because this is obviously a step in the wrong direction,” Paul said. “We have just totally disrespected the Constitution.”

The comments once again put Paul at odds with his Republican rivals over foreign policy and the war on terror in the latest indication of how his foreign policy views stray far from Republican orthodoxy even in a GOP that’s taken on an increasingly isolationist bent. Candidates like Michele Bachmann and Mitt Romney — who included the president in a list of people he commended in a statement released Friday — have generally been supportive of the killing. No one else in the field has spoken out against it.

But Paul’s stuck with the civil libertarians who’ve criticized the targeted killing of an American citizen without public due process.

Paul, speaking at the University of New Hampshire’s Manchester campus as part of a brief swing through the state, also made another pitch for eliminating the federal income tax

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: fastandfurious; fraud; gunrunner; identitytheft; impeachobama; moneylaundering; murder; obama; paul4alqeda; paultard; ronpaul; socialsecuritynumber; solargate; texas

1 posted on 10/03/2011 2:35:45 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Razzz42

Why should our military be given a higher standard than our cops?


2 posted on 10/03/2011 2:37:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Razzz42

bump.


3 posted on 10/03/2011 2:38:00 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Razzz42
Dr. Paul should imagine that an Israeli was targeted for U.S. assasination. Then he would feel better.

Ron Paul 1488
The Final Solution for America

The two eights of the number 1488 stand for the eigth letter of the alphabet: H. And the two of them together form H H or Heil Hitler.

The fourteen part of the number 1488 stands for those fourteen words that every white supremacist knows: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. (hat tip Bill Levinson)

4 posted on 10/03/2011 2:39:02 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Razzz42
Impeach????
Put him Here!!!

5 posted on 10/03/2011 2:39:29 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Razzz42

Well, what’s holding Paul back from filing articles of impeachment?


6 posted on 10/03/2011 2:39:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Razzz42

Sorry.

Ron Paul is a Jew hating, 911-truther loon.

I can’t trust anyone like that, no matter how right he is about other issues.

While a stopped clock is right twice a day, Ron is more like a clock running wild.

He gets to be right more often, but he still can’t be trusted to give you the right time of day.


7 posted on 10/03/2011 2:44:37 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Razzz42

Sounds like he’s starting to lose some of his support and needs to try to get them back.

Dennis Kucinich does the same thing.


8 posted on 10/03/2011 2:47:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (MLB Playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2786167/posts)
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To: Razzz42

I do not care that the terrorist weasel was turned into potted meat by a hellfire missile even if he was an “American”.

While technically I can see his point, terrorist boy may have been an American, he was far from being one when he took arms against up. As usual on foreign matters, Ron Paul is wrong.


9 posted on 10/03/2011 2:48:57 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: Razzz42
Funny how liberals were against imprisoning terrorists, torturing them, and against military tribunals.

But let Obamah assassinate a US citizen overseas and that's just fine with them.

10 posted on 10/03/2011 2:49:09 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: Razzz42
Paul said. “We have just totally disrespected the Constitution.”

Gee Ron, where were you on the day you and the rest of congress approved the results of the last Presidential election? Where was your objection?

11 posted on 10/03/2011 2:49:12 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: driftdiver

I’ve often wondered the same.


12 posted on 10/03/2011 2:49:12 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Razzz42

Yeah that would go over about like a turd in a punch bowl.


13 posted on 10/03/2011 2:49:36 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Jim Robinson
The republicans are chicken (you know the rest) it's like Social Security the third rail, a lot of talk but nothing else, no way Obama will face impeachment.
14 posted on 10/03/2011 2:49:56 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Razzz42

I want a president who is glad that this SOB terrorist was wiped off the map but still has a problem with the constitutional and future implications.


15 posted on 10/03/2011 2:50:46 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Razzz42

Obama should never have been permitted to seize power in the United States, but he will never be impeached. The best use of our effort is to vote the druggie out by such a huge margin that even the numerous dead and fictional voters won’t be able to give him a win on paper.


16 posted on 10/03/2011 2:51:35 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Razzz42

Killing the cleric was completely Constitutional. He was an illegal enemy combatant on a battlefield. There is no Constitutional issue involved.


17 posted on 10/03/2011 2:55:31 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, what’s holding Paul back from filing articles of impeachment?

Exactly.

18 posted on 10/03/2011 2:59:13 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Razzz42

Look let the dems invoke the 25th, if they need to rid themselves of him and he refuses to resign...impeachment at this stage is way to late...Republicans will not touch this with a 10 foot pole and rightly so.


19 posted on 10/03/2011 3:00:42 PM PDT by shield ((Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Razzz42

re-election looks bad, so let Ron Paul do something that would inflame sympathy for Obama. wonder-fool.


20 posted on 10/03/2011 3:01:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Razzz42

While I’m unsettled at the idea of the government killing an American citizen, you can easily make the case that this was done as part of a war. Heck, how many citizens were killed in the Civil War?

Of all the things to impeach Obama over, THIS is what Ron Paul concentrates on??????? Not the misuse of govt funds by giving out loans to his supporters, not the refusal to prosecute voting rights violations by the black panthers, not the total disregard of law when it came to the GM bankruptcy, no. He wants to impeach Obama for killing a traitor during time of war without due process.


21 posted on 10/03/2011 3:01:23 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Why Not Herman Cain?)
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To: Westbrook

“Ron Paul is a Jew hating, 911-truther loon.”

Heh heh heh .. so...he won’t be getting your vote?


22 posted on 10/03/2011 3:02:13 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Razzz42
Gee. Fast and Furious, Solyndra, New Black Panthers, corruption at all levels including his campaign which had foreign money poured into it and so on, and this rumpswab of an excuse for a public servant wants to get him impeached because of the war and side with his usual buddies at Code Pink and MoveOn.org and...oh wait, even Code Pink and MoveOn.org have "moved on" because Odingleberry is holding the keys to the war, and it isn't the hated BushHitler anymore.

I presume Code Pink and MoveOn haven't given up the "9/11 was an Inside Job" even though Al-Queda is calling Iran delusional for propagating the smear. When Al-Queda is calling you delusional for promoting the idea that 9/11 was an inside job, one can only imagine what they would say to Ron Paul, who is ostensibly an American.

Even Al-Queda probably thinks Ron Paul is delusional, and worse. They likely consider him a tool and a useful idiot.

Reminds me of this, just substitute Ron Paul's name in there:

23 posted on 10/03/2011 3:02:20 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: DugwayDuke

I’m at a loss how anyone could consider this guy anything other than an enemy of the United States.


24 posted on 10/03/2011 3:06:33 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Brookhaven

Max Boot wrote a column making that same point, i.e., that every Confederate soldier was also an American citizen, so should the Union have refrained from fighting and killing them?


25 posted on 10/03/2011 3:08:37 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Razzz42
He's a nut and an embarrassment to the GOP.
26 posted on 10/03/2011 3:15:14 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Razzz42
Boehner feels like he just ate a box of prunes having a sh** fit about now, how about growing a backbone for that matter who has heard anything from him in a while?
27 posted on 10/03/2011 3:17:17 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Razzz42
Obama impeachment a possibility, says Ron Paul.

Pinch-faced delusional kook!!

28 posted on 10/03/2011 3:17:35 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Nachum

A lot of folks in RuPaul’s base like obama. In fact, if(when) obama faces the non-Paul GOP nominee, they will stay home or write in Paul knowing that would help obama.


29 posted on 10/03/2011 3:26:54 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Brookhaven

During President Washington’s tenure, he led a federal army to suppress the Whiskey Rebellion. It led to less than half a dozen deaths. The rebels who died apparently were killed before President or literally Commander and Chief George Washington arrive to the scene. However, I highly doubt the army arrived with warrants. I would add many of the rebels were arrested and then aquitted.


30 posted on 10/03/2011 3:31:20 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Razzz42

Speaking of impeachment, could there be any possibility of a Torricelli/Lautenberg situation developing? Say zer0 is not primaried, is nominated, and then is impeached. Now, of course the SC is not like the NJSC... but would the republican be unopposed? Would a court say that the ‘rats not having a nominee would be an “unfair advantage” to the republican nominee?


31 posted on 10/03/2011 3:31:38 PM PDT by C210N
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To: jessduntno

> Heh heh heh .. so...he won’t be getting your vote?

Not hardly.
:)


32 posted on 10/03/2011 3:33:19 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: driftdiver

Paul will never start impeachment proceedings against Obama for this.

The Daily Paul float.

Google the term “Ron Paul to sue”.

He is one day going to sue the TSA, The Fed, Fox News, Obama over Libya.

He tosses these things out for a bump.


33 posted on 10/03/2011 3:39:36 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: castlegreyskull

If I recall correctly, I believe they were pardoned and released, not acquitted.


34 posted on 10/03/2011 3:43:39 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: Farnsworth

While technically I can see his point, terrorist boy may have been an American, he was far from being one when he took arms against up. As usual on foreign matters, Ron Paul is wrong

I agree with your thinking, but I keep thinking, can he target a Militia member or any armed citizen?


35 posted on 10/03/2011 3:55:56 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: rlmorel

Yes, you probably right, they were pardoned and released. I was just bringing the Whiskey Rebellion up, because while people are debating whether Obama overstepped the Constitution, previous Presidents have authorized the use of deadly force on its “citizens”, including President Washington. There was also the infamous “Bonus Army”.


36 posted on 10/03/2011 4:01:52 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: All

You could make the case that O’bummmer is a combatant, in more ways than one. Who gets to press the ‘Fire’ missile button?

It’s called a civil war because it’s a ‘civil’ war not a foreign military action.

I am glad Ron Paul said something about this because no one else did. After the fact, most figureheads agreed with the killings although they have no idea who in entirely they killed (ended with just a red spot on the ground). What a way to run a country. Either you practice the rule-of-law or you don’t.


37 posted on 10/03/2011 4:05:59 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Farnsworth

Many have forgotten during W’s administration that we had John Walker Lindh aka Johnny Jihad. He took up arms with AQ against the US but he was an American citizen. Many then wanted him fed to the sharks but he had his day in court. Another point in keeping these evil doers alive is a serious interrogation might lead to saving many American lives. Sure, the down side is Johnny Jihad is alive and well and could get out in 2019.


38 posted on 10/03/2011 4:32:59 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: shield; All

I agree...


39 posted on 10/03/2011 4:37:18 PM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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To: Razzz42

But there’s no way the current senate would vote to convict. Republicans would have to run the table and pick up 20 of 23 seats up next year to have a straight party vote for conviction. Of course if we picked up even half that many seats, it’s quite unlikely Obama would be reelected too. Perhaps there are good reasons for impeaching and removing a lame duck Obama in the 17 days between the swearing in of the 113th Congress and the swearing in of the next president, but it would look rather vindictive. I would like to see all the czars impeached and removed though.


40 posted on 10/03/2011 4:38:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: bgill; Farnsworth
Many have forgotten during W’s administration that we had John Walker Lindh aka Johnny Jihad. He took up arms with AQ against the US but he was an American citizen. Many then wanted him fed to the sharks but he had his day in court.

But we weren't obligated to transport him back to the US since he was captured overseas. He should have been tried in Afghanistan by a military tribunal and hanged and cremated there so he couldn't defile US soil.

41 posted on 10/03/2011 4:44:28 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

I say start impeachment proceedings and let them vote along party lines.

Let’s see who supports criminal activity and who doesn’t. If they want to play the gray area game, let’em, for every one to see.


42 posted on 10/03/2011 5:38:50 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Razzz42
I say start impeachment proceedings and let them vote along party lines.

Let’s see who supports criminal activity and who doesn’t. If they want to play the gray area game, let’em, for every one to see.


Except there would be no vote along party lines over this issue. Few Republicans will vote to impeach Obama for killing an al Qaeda terrorist, regardless if he was an American citizen. Congress authorized the use of force against al Qaeda, this guy was a member of al Qaeda, he was in a foreign country having actively taken up arms against the United States, and he was responsible for training and advising terrorists and planning new terror attacks. Heck, I wouldn't vote to impeach Obama over this. Other stuff, but not this.
43 posted on 10/03/2011 5:46:56 PM PDT by DTxAg
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To: castlegreyskull

George Washington was an amazing man. I read a great book about him “His Excellency:George Washington” by Joseph Ellis...good read, and a slightly different take on Washington.

It has been a while since I read it, but I recall that of the guys arrested, Washington pardoned nearly all but I think two, who went on trial and were acquitted.

Washington saw that trying all of them was only going to piss people off, and he did an intelligent and compassionate thing.

I understand the parallel you draw, and I think the Bonus Army seems to be a better example...good call.


44 posted on 10/03/2011 5:52:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: bgill

If ever there was a SOB who deserved to be hung, it was that pussy.

When I saw the way that trial went, I realized then that it is impossible to be executed for treason.

Of course, that was on top of Hanoi Jane and John Fkn Kerry...


45 posted on 10/03/2011 5:57:14 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Annnnd, impeachment is now officially OFF the table. :’) Thanks Razzz42.


46 posted on 10/05/2011 7:55:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ari-freedom
I think Ron Paul had a point.We took out the Taliban kid from california and sent him to a trial.We afforded of all people the Blind sheik and Mousaui in Minnesota all the rights of a trial as if they were American citizens.I mean wth?
47 posted on 10/06/2011 6:25:18 PM PDT by ricoshea
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