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House Republican says Norquist paralyzing Congress
politico ^ | 10-4-11 | Seung Min Kim

Posted on 10/05/2011 5:58:08 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

top House Republican on Tuesday attacked conservative tax activist Grover Norquist in a blistering floor speech, saying his no-taxes pledge has "paralyzed" Congress from tackling the deficit.

In a short but powerful speech, Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., laid out a remarkable indictment against one of the most powerful figures in conservative politics. He cited Norquist's ties to convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff, as well as charges that Norquist was associated with two terrorist financiers. Wolf also raised Norquist's lobbying for Fannie Mae and the Internet gambling sector, and his reported support for moving Guantanamo Bay detainees to the United States.

"Simply put, I believe Mr. Norquist is connected with, or has profited from, a number of unsavory people and groups out of the mainstream," Wolf said.

In an interview, Norquist dismissed Wolf's remarks as a "hissy fit."

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: congress; norquist
Wolf emphasized that he himself did not support tax increases - essentially the mission of Norquist's organization, Americans for Tax Reform. But the no-taxes pledge, Wolf argued, was hamstringing Congress from being able to "realistically" pursue tax reform - which Wolf said was a critical component in taming the nation's debt.
1 posted on 10/05/2011 5:58:16 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

How about if we stop worrying about “Tax reform” and start worrying about “cutting spending”?

Cut the spending and we can pay down the debt.


2 posted on 10/05/2011 6:01:11 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I just don’t want Norquist involved with anything because he’s an islamo sympathizer


3 posted on 10/05/2011 6:01:19 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Sounds like the Wolf is a crying boy..............


4 posted on 10/05/2011 6:01:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Mr. Wolf, ‘taming the nation’s debt’ is 100% dependent on cutting spending...in a massive way. The tax code should be cleaned up, but Norquist is not preventing that. He is preventing the typical cop out of Washington that raising rates is a solution to over-spending.

Cut spending, and significantly. That is why we sent you there in the first place.


5 posted on 10/05/2011 6:02:50 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Red Badger

Wolf is a RINO squish too.


6 posted on 10/05/2011 6:02:50 AM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: WOBBLY BOB

More bullsht propaganda from Politico.


7 posted on 10/05/2011 6:03:41 AM PDT by Perdogg (I would vote for Pawnstar Chumlee, before I would vote for 0bama)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Maybe Norquist is a petro-Manchurian, after all.


8 posted on 10/05/2011 6:05:21 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Wolf is my rep. He is a poor excuse for a conservative, all talk and no action. He wants to be the lead engineer for deficit cutting, but now the train is leaving the station without him. Also, he is absolutely the king of pork in my area, and sends out lots of glossy pamphlets at taxpayer expense boasting about how much money he has spent.


9 posted on 10/05/2011 6:05:35 AM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Red Badger

Norquist would rather see shariah banking. This is a traitor. Anything he says or does is suspect. His wife is a devout muslim and devout nuslims marry...muslims.


10 posted on 10/05/2011 6:05:49 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Another gutless wonder who thinks the country is undertaxed.


11 posted on 10/05/2011 6:06:41 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“top House Republican [Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va.] on Tuesday attacked conservative tax activist Grover Norquist in a blistering floor speech, saying his no-taxes pledge has “paralyzed” Congress from tackling the deficit.

Hey, Frank:

How about first concentrating on cutting spending levels that have us borrowing 40 cents on every dollar spent. Get that under control and THEN we can talk about “tax reform”.

And tht “tax reform” should be repeal of the 16th amendment and replacement of the income/slave tax with the Fair Tax.


12 posted on 10/05/2011 6:08:11 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn
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To: GunsareOK

IOW, he’s basically saying that he wants to raise taxes rather than cut spending...........


13 posted on 10/05/2011 6:08:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: MestaMachine; ari-freedom

Agree.


14 posted on 10/05/2011 6:13:00 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: SharpRightTurn
Wolf is simply watching out for the interests of his constituents. On the other hand he doesn't support killing babies.

My Congresscritter, Canolli, likes to kill babies and he thinks all his constituents are employees of leftwing non-profit propaganda mills and pressure groups.

We'd trade Canolli for Wolf any time.

15 posted on 10/05/2011 6:18:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ilgipper

Cut spending. I don’t think there is a single Congresscritter in Washington who wants to actually CUT spending. Everyone of them proposes a reduction in the growth of spending but no actual cuts. The way they keep score in DC, if they passed a budget this year that was identical to last year’s it would be scored as a $900 Billion cut. Even keeping score like that they can’t actually cut anything. Screw Wallstreet; we need to occupy Washington.


16 posted on 10/05/2011 6:19:49 AM PDT by csmusaret (The only borders Obama has closed is a bookstore.)
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To: netmilsmom

But “tax reform” is how our guys think they can get away with “revenue increases”.


17 posted on 10/05/2011 6:23:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: netmilsmom

OTOH, Wolf is 100% right about Norquist being compromised with unsavory associations that are damaging to the GOP and the country.


18 posted on 10/05/2011 6:25:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: muawiyah

No Canolli listed for the House.


19 posted on 10/05/2011 6:42:21 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

Yeah, he’s there ~ HE LOOKS LIKE ONE!


20 posted on 10/05/2011 6:45:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 9YearLurker
Norquist does his thing and Congress does its thing.

Only idiots think Norquist gives orders to Congress.

Obviously Norquist opposes new taxes, and at the moment a majority of the House and probably the Senate also opposes new taxes.

21 posted on 10/05/2011 6:47:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ratman83

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/0826-november-elections-virginia-gerald-connolly-keith-fimian/8545158-1-eng-US/0826-november-elections-virginia-Gerald-Connolly-keith-fimian_full_600.jpg ~ here, look, see the big opening where they squeeze in the cream cheese!


22 posted on 10/05/2011 6:50:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Oh Connolly not Canolli.


23 posted on 10/05/2011 6:52:23 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: WOBBLY BOB

FUFW...Sellout


24 posted on 10/05/2011 6:58:17 AM PDT by Post5203 (Our political class have sullied a good man's name...Washington)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

FUFW...Sellout


25 posted on 10/05/2011 6:58:21 AM PDT by Post5203 (Our political class have sullied a good man's name...Washington)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
We need this "Wolf" in Washington

"Pretty please with sugar on it, cut the f'ing taxes."

26 posted on 10/05/2011 7:00:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: WOBBLY BOB

NO NEW TAXES AND NO MORE DIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

LLS


27 posted on 10/05/2011 7:04:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Years ago I read a book (I believe the title was Coup D’Etat).

The author listed some of the reasons why a government is overthrown. You would not be surprised to hear one was over taxation.

He pointed out there is no clear point when the population turns to violence against their government when they are over taxed, but does point out there is a point. A wise government tries to stay below that point.

A stupid government does not care and will keep raising taxes regardless of what the population says. Stupid governments do not stay in power long (relatively speaking).

We are not in our current financial mess today because of lack of money going into the treasury. It is because our government is spending more money than it has coming in.

There are two solutions to this.

1. Raise Taxes (which the progressives wants)
2. Cut spending (which the Tea Party wants)

The progressives have big media, the Democrats, the unions, the welfare people, the universities and so on, on their side. A very powerful group.

The tea party has history on their side. They, the Tea Party, will eventually win because history indicates that progressive can not win.

The problem for us is how badly will our nation be hurt before the progressives are swept away into the dust bin of history?

The old Soviet Union provides some hope. They, unlike us, did not have a long history of capitalism, but they picked it up quickly enough.

(As a side note, it is interesting to see that religion is making a comeback in the old Soviet Union as well). This tells me a powerful government can keep someone from talking about their religion, but it can not change what is in a person’s heart.)


28 posted on 10/05/2011 7:21:55 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: csmusaret

Three simple steps; Eliminate baseline budgeting; eliminate cabinet departments; RIF the bureaucrats. Nothing else will do the job.
To enhance the effect, decentralize the remaining departments to locations Ivy Leaguers hate, that is, towns without gay bars and ballet.


29 posted on 10/05/2011 7:34:55 AM PDT by steve8714 (America is getting soft. We have guys wearing mommy jeans, probably with no fly.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

If he’s a “Top House Republican” why don’t I know who he is?


30 posted on 10/05/2011 7:36:56 AM PDT by steve8714 (America is getting soft. We have guys wearing mommy jeans, probably with no fly.)
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To: csmusaret

You are correct. The candidate that runs on changing the budget process to simply a zero-based budgeting model making each department justify their programs and make a case for increases each year would win in a massive landslide in 2012.


31 posted on 10/05/2011 7:53:38 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Mr. Wolf is exactly that, in sheep’s clothing. In other words, a RINO.


32 posted on 10/05/2011 7:56:52 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

No old taxes.


33 posted on 10/05/2011 7:57:31 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

No real conservative pays any attention to Norquist.


34 posted on 10/05/2011 8:05:20 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: CIB-173RDABN
There are two solutions to this.

1. Raise Taxes (which the progressives wants)
2. Cut spending (which the Tea Party wants)

The problem is, they can't do #1. They can raise the rates, but the revenue won't increase. Revenue will stay at about 19-20% of GDP max, as it has in recent history. The only way to raise revenue is to increase GDP, and not artificially with increased government spending. The only way to grow GDP is to cut taxes, decrease regulations and let the private sector do what it does unencumbered by government. But, they won't do that. Neither party is willing to decrease the size or power of government, so #2 is out and doing the things that would actually result in #1 are out. So, the deficit will continue to grow, until it either collapses or enough people recognize the problem and vote out politicians and put in people like the Tea partiers in large enough numbers to actually have some effect. I predict the former.

35 posted on 10/05/2011 8:17:50 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: steve8714

maybe he’s a Wolf in sheep’s clothing.


36 posted on 10/05/2011 8:25:11 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: steve8714

he’s a backbencher snivelspender.


37 posted on 10/05/2011 8:27:43 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: MestaMachine

Muslim women are not allowed to marry non-muslim men. Women are killed for marrying non-muslim men.


38 posted on 10/06/2011 7:44:58 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
What a half assed comment. I don't care for Norquist on many issues, but on taxes, he's dead on.

Cut spending, then have tax reform, with no increases.

39 posted on 10/06/2011 7:50:37 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Detroit Tigers - First major league team to clinch division title this year.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Frank Wolf, heh.. Says he himself doesn’t support tax increases but wants them on the table.
I have little use for Norquist, but Wolf is a liar and a scumbag.


40 posted on 10/06/2011 7:54:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MestaMachine

Norquist is a member of the treason lobby on immigration as well. He thinks we must bring in more of his Muslim pals.


41 posted on 10/06/2011 7:55:15 PM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: 9YearLurker
But “tax reform” is how our guys think they can get away with “revenue increases”.

Precisely.

42 posted on 10/06/2011 7:57:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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