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TITLE : Layoffs In September EXPLODE 126% In Worst Month Since April 2009


WHICH FIGURES TO BELIEVE?
1 posted on 10/05/2011 7:48:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

These private sector jobs have been almost the same each month, all year long. So no real improvement.


2 posted on 10/05/2011 8:00:07 AM PDT by rawhide
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Administration again “managing” numbers and lowering expectations so they can crow when they come in higher.

Every single week we see the previous weeks numbers revised downward for the new jobless claims report. Nothing coming out of Washington can be trusted.


3 posted on 10/05/2011 8:01:09 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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U.S. employers announced the most job cuts in more than two years in September, led by planned reductions at Bank of America Corp. (BAC) and in the military.

Announced firings jumped 212 percent, the largest increase since January 2009, to 115,730 last month from 37,151 in September 2010, according to Chicago-based Challenger, Gray & Christmas Inc

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-05/announced-u-s-job-cuts-rise-212-from-year-ago-challenger-says.html


4 posted on 10/05/2011 8:03:11 AM PDT by rawhide
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It will take a few months of retro adjustments to add in all those layoffs.

Meanwhile normal average population growth in September was 150,000 plus 125,000 new legal workers were brought into the country for a total of 275,000 new workers.

Ignoring questions about the +91,000 jobs such as are they full time, what do they pay, that makes payroll jobs at a net -184,000.

I’m thrilled! /sarc


5 posted on 10/05/2011 8:05:18 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: SeekAndFind
Private businesses added slightly more than expected jobs in September, according to a report released Wednesday.

Obviously, they "cooked the books" and are LIEING.

Nothing new...same old BULL$HIT!!

6 posted on 10/05/2011 8:05:50 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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ADP numbers are so “noisy” and have such low skill at predicting the BLS release that they have no value at all, really.

Part of how I manage the non-stop river of noise posing as information is to examine the value of each “indicator” that gets released on a monthly/quarterly/annual basis and draw up a chart of “rapt attention/make note of/ignore” that should be done with it.


7 posted on 10/05/2011 8:18:21 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: SeekAndFind
The August data were revised down to show a rise of 89,000 versus 91,000 reported a month ago.

If that's the case, isn't the "zero net new jobs" actually in negative territory for August?

8 posted on 10/05/2011 9:51:47 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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The American economy is about to come to a screeching halt.

Investors are panicking. Businesses are being raided. Regulations are crushing investment. Companies are hoarding money.

We are about to enter into what Greece is experiencing only we'll do it in one steep drop because there's no one to catch us.

10 posted on 10/05/2011 4:06:50 PM PDT by Crucial
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