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Chris Christie's Out and the Big Winner Is Herman Cain
Fox News ^ | October 04, 2011 | Douglas E. Schoen

Posted on 10/05/2011 11:49:14 AM PDT by federal__reserve

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's decision not to run for president is predictable and offers the possibility of changing the dynamic of the Republican primary election. . . . I had a chance to hear Herman Cain live and in person last night at the Monday Meeting in New York City. He brought the house down -- getting three standing ovations and captivating a crowd that is usually is more hard-headed and analytical than emotional.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; cain2012; christy; primary
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Schoen is a democrat strategist for sure. But he is not looney left wing. His article is a worth read.
1 posted on 10/05/2011 11:49:19 AM PDT by federal__reserve
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To: federal__reserve

Not sure about this.

During my drive time to work radio program, a Wall Street exec was interviewed and he says that most of Wall Street was prepared to support Chris Christie. Now that he isn’t running, the money will flow to Mitt Romney.


2 posted on 10/05/2011 11:55:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: federal__reserve

The big winner is Romney. Christie would have seriously cut into Mittens support.


3 posted on 10/05/2011 11:59:51 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not one that sticks my finger in the wind and supports the candidate attracting the most attention from Wall Street or the Media.
If in the next debate Cain gets the number of questions thrown his way that he now deserves, and if he performs as well as he did the last debate, he will have plenty of money flowing his way.


4 posted on 10/05/2011 12:01:16 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: federal__reserve
Another way to put it is that 3 in 4 Republican voters are not considering voting for a man who ran last time and has been the most visible and active and aggressive of the candidates competing now for the nomination.

"And in other news, new polls from Gallup, Rasmussen and Zogby show stratospheric gains in Cain's popularity on the heels of his primary wins in New Hampshire, Iowa and Florida, along with corresponding increases in fundraising. He has increased his lead over Mitt Romney, who despite his name recognition and funding cannot seem to grow past the 25% that he has been seemingly stuck on since becoming a candidate."

5 posted on 10/05/2011 12:02:36 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: NavyCanDo

If Cain gets many questions on his 999 plan his numbers will fall like a stone.


6 posted on 10/05/2011 12:19:56 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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I think what you’re seeing outside the pundits, political junkies and financial backers is that John & Jane Q Public are looking for a star personality who can take Obama down in debates & change the course of where we’re headed.

I don’t think the average American gets the nuances and stances of each candidate the way people like us do.

Sorry, but Mitt Romney is a dud. The only reason he’s still up in the polls is that to the general public, he’s committed no sins yet. Fine. Let that dunderhead think he can do no wrong. He’ll mis-step. Let him & Rick Perry keep attacking each other. Repubs don’t want to see fighting amongst ourselves.

Besides the Perry Rock thing, Herman Cain hasn’t made too many mistakes. He’s working his butt off every day making appearences, doing interviews. In short, he’s working for it. And he comes across like the wise, funny grandfather everyone wishes they had. If he does get to debate Obama, he’s going to look like the father schooling his wayward son.

Yeah, even though they have different ideologies, I can see Herman Cain taking Gov Christie votes. Right now, many people are looking for a tough, well spoken star. That ain’t Mitt Romney.


7 posted on 10/05/2011 12:22:27 PM PDT by The Sparrow
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To: Beagle8U
If Cain gets many questions on his 999 plan his numbers will fall like a stone.

You're missing the point. Cain's surge in popularity is not based on his policies - it's based on his personhood. He's new, he's fresh, yada, yada...

From the article: "Every poll that I've seen suggests that Republicans are looking for fresh faces, new ideas and most of all optimism about our future. Cain offers all of the above."

8 posted on 10/05/2011 12:31:01 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: federal__reserve

Placed my new Cain 2012 in the front yard not 10 minutes ago. My family is on the Cain train.


9 posted on 10/05/2011 12:33:25 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: NavyCanDo

I hope Cain does his homework for the next debate because I am really enjoying his rise. The guns will be out for him and I want him to do really, really well. They’ll probably go after him on Foreign policy issues.


10 posted on 10/05/2011 12:34:42 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: achilles2000
The big winner is Romney. Christie would have seriously cut into Mittens support.

I agree with you.
11 posted on 10/05/2011 12:34:42 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

That’s great! Congratulations. I’m still holding out for Sarah but Cain is really intriguing me.

Dennis Miller is now supporting Cain as well.


12 posted on 10/05/2011 12:35:59 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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Well, he wont be ‘fresh’ once he is questioned on the 999 plan.

No way that would ever pass once people get to looking at it and see how it would effect them.

13 posted on 10/05/2011 12:47:50 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SeekAndFind
a Wall Street exec was interviewed and he says that most of Wall Street was prepared to support Chris Christie. Now that he isn’t running, the money will flow to Mitt Romney.

You didn't think Wall Street was going to support a conservative, did you? Wall Street is full of liberals who mostly support Obama, who pays them back directly for their support. If not Obama they will support another person who they think will pay them back for their support. That isn't Cain.

14 posted on 10/05/2011 12:48:51 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Beagle8U

RE: If Cain gets many questions on his 999 plan his numbers will fall like a stone.

Well, it will all depend on how good the plan is. If as he says, it will help restore proseprity in this country, I don’t see why is numbers won’t rise as opposed to fallibng like a stone.

I am quite eager in fact to hear what he has to say against critics (especially the part where people dislike BOTH a Federal income and sales tax at the same time ). I am quite certain that he has done the math on this.

He went head to head against Clinton on the tax implications before of Hillarycare and came out on top.

The next debate will be the time for him to (as they say) shows us what he’s got when put under the microscope.

But to say that he’s going to sink like a stone requires really good knowledge of the economic implications of the 999 plan.

The only thing that I really hate about these debates is they don’t give you enough time to get into the meat of plans like this one.

It will be a humongous challenge to respond to an attack in just 30 seconds.


15 posted on 10/05/2011 12:52:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Beagle8U

RE: No way that would ever pass once people get to looking at it and see how it would effect them.

OK, can you explain to us in what negative way it will affect most people in general and the economy in particular?


16 posted on 10/05/2011 12:54:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: The Sparrow

Something else: Heard an oral clip of his appearance on the View. On radio he sounds like a blend of James Carville and Morgan Freeman. Whatever else James is, he is also funny and loyal to those who feed him. And Freeman is a man who has one of the most charming voices one can imagine and a delicious sense of humor.


17 posted on 10/05/2011 12:56:32 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Definitely. Christie wouldn't have just taken some of Romney's support. He would have obliterated it, and he would have picked up some of the Tea Party support among those who still believe in the Buckley rule.

Perry is going to have to rally fast to get back at it. The next big debate will be a Perry-Romney battle royale. Cain will get more attention than before, which means even less time for Newt and Santorum. He'll go on about 9-9-9 and how awesome a new sales tax would be. Perry will answer to the painted rock. Cain will backpedal that some more. And there will be Romney, untouched, the default candidate, playing out the string.

18 posted on 10/05/2011 1:02:47 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: miss marmelstein

If i’m not mistaken I believe the next debate will be focused soly on the economy. At least that’s what the TV commercial I saw said. It was from Bloomberg TV. If so, that should be good for the Hermincain.....


19 posted on 10/05/2011 1:05:10 PM PDT by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: DaveinOK54

Good to know, thanks!


20 posted on 10/05/2011 1:14:13 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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