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Steve Jobs' Estranged Father Never Got Phone Call He Waited For
ABC via Yahoo! News ^ | October 6, 2011 | COLLEEN CURRY

Posted on 10/06/2011 10:51:36 AM PDT by americanophile

Steve Jobs' estranged father, who had given up his infant son for adoption, had been hoping that his grown son would call him. That hope died today.

Abdulfattah John Jandali had emailed his son a few times in a tentative effort to make contact. The father never called the son because he feared Jobs would think the dad who had given him up was now after his fortune.

And Jobs never responded to his father's emails.

"I really don't have anything to say," Jandali, vice president at Boomtown Hotel Casino in Reno, Nev., told the International Business Times.

Jandali, a Syrian immigrant, had been quoted by the New York Post recently saying he didn't know until just a few years ago that the baby he and his ex-wife, Joanne Simpson, gave up grew to be Apple's CEO.

Jandali told the Post that had it been his choice, he would have kept the baby. But Simpson's father did not approve of her marrying a Syrian, so she moved to San Francisco to have the baby alone and give him up for adoption.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adoption; apple; johnjandali; stevejobs
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes I have a Great Uncle who’s family fled Syria before 1920 and they were all Catholic.


51 posted on 10/06/2011 11:52:06 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: brownsfan
I know there is such a thing as a good muslim

Which would make them an apostate.

52 posted on 10/06/2011 11:55:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: The Sparrow

While I think Steve Jobs was a visionary it was also well known that he was not a nice man at least to the ones who worked under him and often would scream and tell them their idea were stupid. IIRC his first daughter Lisa and her Mom lived on welfare for a while when he was telling the court he was not the father and they did not get to know each other until she was a teen.


53 posted on 10/06/2011 11:56:35 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: mockingbyrd

Oftentimes people assume that adoptees don’t want to engage their bios because they are angry, hurt, and so on. That is not always the case. Just like with your dad, many go: WHY?

They just don’t need to go there. They might have some curiousity about who the bios are and so on. That is an information need, not a relationship need.

Personally, I resent the use of the words “estranged father” in this headline. This man was not “estranged.” That implies a relationship that has become fractured. There never was a relationship between this man and Steve Jobs, so there was nothing from which to become estranged.

Also, a little o/t, but it makes me sick that the same LSM that says killing the child is better than giving him up for adoption then gets all teary-eyed when the adopted child “misses out” on the allegedly wonderful relationship he could have had with his sperm donor.

And again: why is this man getting any press when it’s the son of Paul and Clara Jobs that has died.


54 posted on 10/06/2011 11:56:58 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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To: americanophile

My father-in-law was adopted and even though there was some information about his biological mother in his adoption papers he never had any desire to search out his birth mother. Since he has past away my wife and her sister have been doing some research and have tracked his biological mother and some of her family, but have decided not to contact any living relatives.


55 posted on 10/06/2011 11:59:46 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Red Badger

Chris Plante, our local ranter on WMAL in DC said this AM that if Jobs’ mom had had an abortion we’d still be on Ataris. (And don’t get me wrong, I like Plante).


56 posted on 10/06/2011 12:03:28 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Austrian achievement: convincing world that Hitler was German and Beethoven Austrian)
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To: americanophile

Google lists Steve Jobs as into Buddhism


57 posted on 10/06/2011 12:08:02 PM PDT by Bizzy Bugz
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To: Red Badger

But do pro-aborts ever concede that the world would have been worse off if Steve Jobs had been aborted rather than born?


58 posted on 10/06/2011 12:11:20 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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To: Betis70
I dunno, sounds like he wanted the child. Or do you just not believe him?

Hey, don't you know? The guy is always wrong, especially when he's right.
59 posted on 10/06/2011 12:13:52 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: americanophile

Not exactly what is meant by “estranged.”


60 posted on 10/06/2011 12:14:38 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: BunnySlippers

In 1955 we didn’t have DNA tests and the mother was the only one who could make the decision for adoption because the only test they had available was a blood test and the kid could have had the mother’s blood type rather than the father’s.

So, don’t judge, you don’t know what happened and why.


61 posted on 10/06/2011 12:16:10 PM PDT by tiki
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To: americanophile

Google lists Steve Jobs as into Buddhism


62 posted on 10/06/2011 12:18:02 PM PDT by Bizzy Bugz
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To: goodnesswins

I will go further than you. None of them should have any rights. But I was not adopted so.... it’s easy for me to say....


63 posted on 10/06/2011 12:18:10 PM PDT by ToxicMich (If I catch you sleeping in this space AGAIN, I'M GONNA KICK YOUR # "?/%")
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To: fightinJAG

They will never answer a question like that, it is a moot point with them........


64 posted on 10/06/2011 12:18:32 PM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: chris_bdba
his first daughter Lisa and her Mom lived on welfare for a while

Who cares if they did live on welfare? They only have themselves to blame. Cain said it yesterday...

65 posted on 10/06/2011 12:27:00 PM PDT by ToxicMich (If I catch you sleeping in this space AGAIN, I'M GONNA KICK YOUR # "?/%")
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To: Pharmboy
I am totally antiabortion. The cemeteries are full of indispensable people. We would still be typing away on our Mac's, they just would be called something else.
66 posted on 10/06/2011 12:33:35 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: tiki

I’m merely a Steve Jobs fan.

So sue me.


67 posted on 10/06/2011 12:39:22 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: fightinJAG

That is your own opinion which I reject. The biological father is important, I get half my genetics from him. If I’m adopted I want to know him for a host of reasons and he has to be very evil for me to have nothing to do with him. Which nut ball Jobs did, the big Zen Buddhist


68 posted on 10/06/2011 12:41:53 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: americanophile
Look what happens when you rescue a mind from Islam.

Muslims could compete in life's race if they weren't forced to carry 150 pounds of 4th century ideas... Former Muslims - would be able to compete....

69 posted on 10/06/2011 12:50:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (Bibi would go toe to toe with the devil if it was the only way to save his beloved Israel.)
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To: dennisw
you know Dennis..I assume you never walked in the footsteps of an adopted child...

Steve Jobs said the only REAL parent he knew were the parents who raised and loved him, he must have been satisfied..

Don't you think?

70 posted on 10/06/2011 12:54:46 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: The Sparrow
A lot is made out of this guy being a visionary & a genius. While that may be true, it would not surprise me if he were a total jerk.

You will not be surprised, then, he is a jerk. Occasionally the media will notice that he was a co-founder of Apple but most of the time his is the only one responsible for Apple.

The other co-founder of Apple, and my personal hero, is Steve Wozniak, The Woz. Guess who cheated him out of some money early on, that's right, Jobs.

But given Jobs' early upbringing, it is no wonder he did not learn to play well with others.

But he did make Apple a billion dollar company. The dichotomy of his personal life and accomplishments I leave to the the psychologists.

71 posted on 10/06/2011 1:10:07 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: brownsfan

I hold no brief for Islam, the religion of the false prophet. But Steve Jobs father is about the most Americanized Muslim I have come across


72 posted on 10/06/2011 1:11:16 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I was thinking how Jobs is almost the other side of the coin from “that man.” White, very young, single mother, arab muslime father, absent. One becomes the Thomas Edison of his time. The other one becomes a parasite, and winds up parasite in chief.


73 posted on 10/06/2011 1:19:10 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: brownsfan
Your right Brownsfan...
there is such a thing as a good Muslim..my husbands cardiologist is a practicing Muslim, he is wonderful and saved my husbands life.
we respect him, his beliefs, as we know him only as a caring individual....in this country there is Freedom of Religion..
74 posted on 10/06/2011 1:20:39 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: haircutter

No I am not adopted but if I was and my biological father summoned me I would respect this and meet up with him. If I’m a tremendous success then I figure he is partly responsible. The really cute part is that St Jobs believed more in nurture than nature until he met up with his famous sister

>>>>His sister is Mona Simpson, the acclaimed writer of books like “Anywhere But Here.” Jobs did not meet Simpson until they were adults, when he was seeking information on his birth parents. Simpson later wrote a book based on their relationship. In the book, “A Regular Guy,” Simpson shed light on Jobs’s relationship with Brennan and his daughter, Lisa. <<<<<

After he met her (also very accomplished) it changed his life and he believed more in nature. Nature would be this biological father (an old man of 80) who he refused to meet with before he died. He couldn’t humor the old man who gave him his high IQ and drive. A rotten failing in my book.


75 posted on 10/06/2011 1:27:52 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: dennisw
Dennis
If you were adopted your thoughts could be completely different..

Steve Job must have LOVED his adopted parents..and I will leave it at that...

from a mother of an adopted son...haircutter

76 posted on 10/06/2011 1:37:08 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: haircutter

I consider it bad luck, bad karma not to meet up with your biological parents if they request it.
I would do it for them as much as for me. We all come from somewhere and from someone, this is why we have family trees and why some people spend a lot of time maintaining them. Family tree research is big on the internet.

Steve Jobs refusal to see his bio-father may have redounded on him. Too stuck up to see his biological father, does not look like a winning formula to me


77 posted on 10/06/2011 2:19:23 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: dennisw

My question is why do you condemn a person who, apparently unlike yourself IS adopted and has actually confronted this issue, decides he wants no part of the sperm donor?

I’m not against anyone trying to connect with whomever they want to connect with in these situations.

I’m against others judging their decisions, especially others who are not adopted.


78 posted on 10/06/2011 2:53:47 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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To: ToxicMich

Did you read the conversation or did you just decide to barge in with your stupid comment? I care because we were discussing how he wasn’t such a nice guy to be a multi millionaire and deny his first child with his high school sweetheart while allowing them to subsist on welfare....DUH


79 posted on 10/06/2011 2:55:27 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: americanophile
Jandali told the Post that had it been his choice, he would have kept the baby. But Simpson's father did not approve of her marrying a Syrian, so she moved to San Francisco to have the baby alone and give him up for adoption.

Then this man had another baby with the woman who "forced" him to give their first baby up for adoption?

80 posted on 10/06/2011 2:56:07 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Please stop posting "helpful hints" in parentheses the title box. Thank you.)
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To: haircutter

We do too.My husband’s best friend’s late father was muslim. He too was a doctor who saved many lives while he was still working.


81 posted on 10/06/2011 3:00:31 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: SandwicheGuy

I have worked with some JERKS...they can be EXCEPTIONAL in certain areas....but, then in other areas of their lives....they are JERKS.


82 posted on 10/06/2011 3:01:07 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: dennisw

I have several friers who were adopted.Some want to meet their bio parents while others would only like to know their medical histories and would prefer not to have actual contact.I think it depends on each individual what they want. I know one lady I when I lived in NY who after meeting her birth family came home and thanked her Mom profusely for adopting her and giving her the life she had because there were 7 other real kids with very dysfunctional lives with her birth Mom.


83 posted on 10/06/2011 3:04:45 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba
or did you just decide to barge in with your stupid comment?

Guilty as charged. Sorry.

84 posted on 10/06/2011 4:02:36 PM PDT by ToxicMich (If I catch you sleeping in this space AGAIN, I'M GONNA KICK YOUR # "?/%")
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To: chris_bdba

wasn’t he 22 yrs.old when that first child was born...not young high school. Old enough to have a Bachelor degree...


85 posted on 10/06/2011 4:12:19 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: All

Yeah, I don’t care specifically that he didn’t want to meet his bio dad. But when you couple that choice with ignoring his first child, then that starts to paint a picture of a cold man.

He just always struck me has a hippy who made good but never ditched the 20 year old self-centered attitude. It’s annoying to see him held up as some sort of hero. He did well. He invented cool stuff. He bought a new liver which most people with PC will never be able to do. He probably lived 8x longer than most people with that diagnosis. I am sorry he suffered. I’m sorry when cancer takes anyone. It’s all very sad. But a hero, he’s not.


86 posted on 10/06/2011 4:13:38 PM PDT by The Sparrow
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To: The Sparrow

15 minutes ago I read an article that said Steve surviving 7 years after his cancer diagnosis was the average.

Most PC patients die within the year according to the article. But those few who have the rare type, as Steve did, last about the same amount of time as he did. They acknowledged that his liver transplant was unusual, but it did not make a difference in his survival.

God bless Steve Jobs.


87 posted on 10/06/2011 5:36:23 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: chris_bdba

Sorry friers= friends...this auto correct really bites sometimes....


88 posted on 10/06/2011 6:54:20 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: haircutter

Something like that he was born in 1955 and she was born in 1978 so he was 22 or 23....


89 posted on 10/06/2011 6:57:10 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: The Sparrow

I don’t agree. He was a sperm-donor. You don’t know why he put him up for adoption. You don’t really know what kind of man he was. I spent decades barely speaking to my dad, WHOM everyone idolized at his funeral, by the way. Funny, none of his 6 kids were there....


90 posted on 10/07/2011 6:48:46 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers?)
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To: americanophile

Yes, but his casino is called Boomtown :-)


91 posted on 10/07/2011 6:55:23 PM PDT by rabidralph
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