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Gunwalker: Did Bush Walk Guns, Too? (Typical Liberal Lame Excuse: The Other Side Did It Too)
Pajamas Media ^ | October 5, 2011 | Bob Owens

Posted on 10/06/2011 1:39:15 PM PDT by Kaslin

After a damning series of documents revealed that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and other top Department of Justice officials were aware of the fact that Operation Fast and Furious walked thousands of guns into Mexico, the Obama administration pushed back through Associated Press reporter Pete Yost, attempting to divert the blame to — who else? — George Bush:

The federal government under the Bush administration ran an operation that allowed hundreds of guns to be transferred to suspected arms traffickers — the same tactic that congressional Republicans have criticized President Barack Obama’s administration for using, two federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

When Bush, a Republican, was president, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Tucson, Ariz., used a similar enforcement tactic in a program it called Operation Wide Receiver. The fact that there were two such ATF investigations years apart in separate administrations raises the possibility that agents in still other cases may have allowed guns to “walk.”

The “two federal law enforcement officials” are anonymous Department of Justice employees attempting to find a way of avoiding responsibility for their roles in authorizing what appears to be criminal acts associated with Operation Fast and Furious and related programs. But let’s skip that to get at the meat of their “Bush did it” defense.

First, as any child above the age of six can tell you, “two wrongs don’t make a right.” If someone else breaks a law, that does not mean you have carte blanche to run amok and violate federal laws and international agreements with reckless abandon. If this is the only defense that the Justice Department can devise — besides Eric Holder’s “I didn’t understand the question” — then they must be in very, very deep trouble. But let’s look at the claim parroted uncritically by Yost all the same.

A series of emails between two Department of Justice officials — Jason Weinstein, deputy assistant attorney general of the Criminal Division, and Deputy Chief of the National Gang Unit James Trusty — bring operation Wide Receiver to our attention. It is referred to as “the Tucson case” in the following exchange:

Looks like we’ll be able to unseal the Tucson case sooner than the Fast and Furious (although this may be just the difference between November and December). It’s not clear how much we’re involved in the main F and F case, but we have Tucson and now a new, related case with [redacted] targets.

Reading this email from Trusty to Weinstein, Wide Receiver does not seem to be discussed as an artifact of the Bush administration that concluded in 2007. They speak of this case as a contemporaneous affair, along with Operation Fast and Furious (which was active at the time) and the “new, related case.” In a related email (at the link), Weinstein mentions these cases represent “a significant set of prosecutions.”

But Yost’s article says this:

Federal law enforcement officials familiar with the matter say Operation Wide Receiver began in 2006 after the agency received information about a suspicious purchase of firearms. The investigation concluded in 2007 without any charges being filed.

After Obama took office, the Justice Department reviewed Wide Receiver and discovered that ATF had permitted guns to be transferred to suspected gun traffickers, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the practice is under investigation by Congress and the Justice Department inspector general’s office.

During the time Fast and Furious was running, senior DOJ officials seemed to be referring to Wide Receiver as a current event, and yet the anonymous DOJ officials — perhaps Lanny Breuer and David Voth — refer to 2007 and say Wide Receiver ended without any charges being filed.

The two stories being told about Wide Receiver don’t add up, and it may be worth asking if the version of Wide Receiver talked about contemporaneously by Trusty and Weinstein as a case leading to prosecutions is the same Wide Receiver run under the Bush administration that closed without charges being filed.

Considering we have email evidence supporting one version of events and self-serving anonymous sources telling us about the other, it is rational to suspect that Yost should have been diligent about acquiring evidence to support the source’s claims.

As for the congressional investigators, they are more than willing to look at any evidence that the Obama administration will turn over regarding Operation Wide Receiver, but the Justice Department has so far refused to turn over documentation relating to that case, even though the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed them long ago.

CNN’s Anderson Cooper asked House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa about Wide Receiver last night:

Anderson Cooper: I’d always thought this was the first time this kind of a program had been tried. There are new revelations tonight coming out that the Bush administration had a similar weapons program, something called Operation “Wide Receiver.” Do you know about that? Do you think officials from that administration should be looked at, as well?

Rep. Darrell Issa: Well, Anderson, we’d know a lot more about it except that’s among the documents we’re still waiting to get. What we do know about “Wide Receiver” somewhat is very small amount of weapons, much more intensive following, but, in fact, we will get to the bottom of whether or not this practice in a smaller way may have begun on the Bush watch. We’re not putting it past any administration and giving anyone a pass. The American people and the people of Mexico expect us to have a zero tolerance for letting drugs come into our country or weapons go into Mexico.

Writing at Townhall, Katie Pavlich notes that Yost’s article is at this point quite suspect in claiming that the Bush-era DOJ used “the same tactic” of walking guns.

The current Department of Justice, including officials that have apparently lied under oath and have had to amend their testimony, are simply not credible without concrete evidence supporting their contentions, as they have sought to hide all evidence from Fast and Furious, Wide Receiver, and other gun-walking operations run under this administration.

It is past time for this administration to come clean.

Mr. President, tell your staff to stop attacking journalists seeking the truth. Tell your political appointees to stop obstructing justice. Appoint the special counsel the House Judiciary Committee has requested.

If you won’t, it is time for you to resign, as you are no longer abiding by your oath of office.


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1 posted on 10/06/2011 1:39:17 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

But of course. It’s all Bush’s fault. Smacks forehead.


2 posted on 10/06/2011 1:40:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Kaslin
It is past time for this administration to come clean.

It is past time for this administration to be put in prison.

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3 posted on 10/06/2011 1:45:01 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama said as much today in his presser. Same with Solyndra. How at least one member of the press didn’t groan or burst out laughing shows how in the tank those idiots still are for Barry.

The one newsworthy moment is when Barry backed up Holder on Fast and Furious. An hour later, new data emerges showing Holder was extensively briefed on the program multiple times in 2010.


4 posted on 10/06/2011 1:45:05 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Kaslin

if he did put him in jail too


5 posted on 10/06/2011 1:45:24 PM PDT by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: Kaslin
I thought someone said that the wide receiver program did not allow the weapons to cross into Mexico and the buyers were apprehended and the weapons recovered before buyers could get away.
6 posted on 10/06/2011 1:48:02 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Democrats have no superego.)
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To: Kaslin
The GOP just needs to say it, we all know it's true, this was an attempt by the Obama administration to get a lot of guns into Narco-Terrorist hands with the expectation they would do something horrific with them and Obama could blame Texans, Arizonians and the NRA for it.

He armed the enemies of America and then shut down border controls so they could march in. This is treason.

7 posted on 10/06/2011 1:48:43 PM PDT by txroadkill (Antlers up! The Claw must be feared!)
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To: Kaslin

No one in the Bush administration lied to a Congressional commitee regarding the project.


8 posted on 10/06/2011 1:50:38 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Kaslin

When leftists start to get spotlighted, they “muddy the water” so that their deeds can’t be seen as well.


9 posted on 10/06/2011 1:51:35 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: oldbrowser
I thought someone said that the wide receiver program did not allow the weapons to cross into Mexico and the buyers were apprehended and the weapons recovered before buyers could get away.

That was the plan. I won't call it a good plan, but their intentions were at least honest. They also figured out that it wasn't working and that the gun runners were defeating their safe guards so they shut it down. Obama did this with the intent to get the weapons in the hands of Narco-Terrorist with the expectation that they would do something horrific with them so he could justify gun control.

10 posted on 10/06/2011 1:53:08 PM PDT by txroadkill (Antlers up! The Claw must be feared!)
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To: oldbrowser
Don't even discuss this as it's just a diversion.

We need to start pressuring congress to bring Holder and the rest of these perps to justice. Prison time is in order for those that are found guilty.

It's also beginning to look like Obama is in on this as well just as most of us suspect.

11 posted on 10/06/2011 1:53:08 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Breto

Yep. It is wrong no matter who did it.


12 posted on 10/06/2011 1:55:19 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: Jim Robinson

Well I am surprised they did not make hay of this while Bush was in office seems weird to me considering all the BDS going on while Bush was in office.


13 posted on 10/06/2011 1:56:42 PM PDT by funfan
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To: txroadkill

I think you’ve summed up the difference very nicely.


14 posted on 10/06/2011 1:57:50 PM PDT by livius
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To: funfan

Why would they complain? It was a routine part of ATF gun control (in the sense of trying to keep sophisticated or even good-quality weapons out of the hands of criminal gangs or terrorists) and they never let the guns actually get to Mexico or really change hands. They targeted a couple of fly-by-night gun suppliers who were known for selling quantities of mysteriously acquired guns to known criminal elements, tracked them and then arrested them when the deal closed.

Holder’s “operation” was nothing like that.


15 posted on 10/06/2011 2:01:11 PM PDT by livius
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To: Irenic; Breto
Indeed.

But Bush didn't do it, so the point is entirely moot, and a diversion from the blood-red-guilt of Barack Obama.

16 posted on 10/06/2011 2:01:45 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: oldbrowser

Tracking devices were used, but were somewhat defective due to the way they were installed in the stocks, and the short life of the batteries. The smuggles were tracked by plane, and they figured out how long the planes could stay aloft without refueling. They drove around in 4 hour loops, and when the planes headed back to refuel, the bad guys dashed over the Border. When it was realized that the operation had been compromised, it was shut down.

Quite a bit different than Ovomit’s ops, eh?


17 posted on 10/06/2011 2:04:30 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Kaslin

Well Bush did a lot of things and it cost the republicans the 2008 election. If Obama did all the same things that Bush did, why would he expect to be re-elected in 2012? History has a strange way of repeating itself.


18 posted on 10/06/2011 2:12:27 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: ohioWfan

A link to the source for my comments.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gunwalker-gunning-down-the-bush-did-it-too-lie/?singlepage=true

Bush did do it, but terminated it as it was failing.


19 posted on 10/06/2011 2:13:13 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Kaslin

So, ...round up everyone who has ever had anything to do with arming Mexican drug lords, and throw them all in prison, real prison, not that resort crap for rich and famous politicians. If ATFE and whatever it is called now doesn’t have anything better to do than aid in smuggling guns to gangland scum, it is time to cut it down in size. There are way too many people from the White House on down with too much time on their hands, and not enough brains in their heads. We need smaller government.


20 posted on 10/06/2011 2:18:16 PM PDT by pallis
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