Posted on 10/07/2011 1:42:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
Doesn’t sound much different than bunches of the Palin stuff I’ve heard around here for the last year or so.
John, John. Put down the torch for Palin. Your arm must be getting tired by now.
Michelle Bachmann is worth ten Sarah Palins.
She is feisty and courageous to go out there and hold her own against all those male blowhards.
Palin is dishonest. What is she going to do with the millions raised by her PAC?
Sorry, FReepers, you were pwned.
She wrote some wonderful books that were well-received and she earned money on them just as any other author would. Etc.
What is wrong with that?
I saw her at an event and you could tell she was working her fingers to the bone on that McCain campaign. I thought at the time, if they don’t win, at least I hope Palin can get remunerated for the years this has taken off her life and the fact that she’ll have to put up with crappola the rest of her life because she said “yes” to the VP run.
It was obvious (and I said so) that we were dealing with the political version of the Claymates. (Not all Palin supporters were in the club, of course.)
At that point there is nothing to say. When someone swears up and down that he/she KNOWS 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt double pinkie-cross that Sarah Palin is running, will win and will save the country and the world . . . with not even an "of course a lot can happen between now and then" thrown in as a bow to reality . . . well, I'll try to politely engage here and there and just move on.
Reality is the great equalizer.
I was, however, very disappointed at how some of the Palin supporters treated anyone who even raised an eyebrow that maybe, just maybe, things wouldn't work out for Palin to run. I've been here a long time and if people have been that rude and vulgar, I don't recall it.
Moreover, it was obvious that the people that were so sure of themselves that they would call names and make sarcastic magical thinking remarks to anyone who civilly disagreed with them in the tiniest degree would be the first to turn on Sarah Palin if she didn't run!
I used to think: WOW, I'd hate to be Sarah Palin. Now I really think I'd hate to be Sarah Palin, because even a lot of the people that "loved" her hate her. Some of the first posts I saw on FR were "what the hell is wrong with her, I thought she loved America." Think about it.
I do feel she was getting lots of book money, maybe lots of speaking engagement money along the way.
IMO she must have banked over ten million since leaving her Alaska job. I think she believes it will come in the same way over the next few years or more, but I don’t think so.
I think she knows she is polarizing due to the media, but had she gone in, expressed her views and done more interviews I think she would have done well.
At this point I think she will see her star fall and probably 6 months after the election she will IMO be lucky to be doing seminars with Bill Cosby and Mrs. Bush in Temecula.
She has IMO just left the world stage to become a bit player IMO.
This guy is a psychopath. Palin needs to get a restraining order against him.
I don’t know how many ‘real’ supporters are bitter. Probably some that were too solely invested in the notion of a presidential run. Personally, I support her because her specific ‘mix/brand’ of conservatism fits my ideology to a “t.” I wanted her to run, but the obstacles were just too monumental. I believe she had indeed tentatively decided to run (it was pretty obvious), but this month all the negative factors grew and settled in to a grim reality. She made the smart move.
I am upset, as well. You are right; the country really needs her.
I did post for a couple of months before she bailed out that though I’d like her to run I think she likes the money for the family that recently flowed in, believes that will continue and doesn’t think a campaign is worth it.
She says the right stuff but actions speak louder than words.
She could have been a contender...
I actually think she was headed toward an announcement that weekend in Iowa and Rick Perry stepped in her lunch with his surprise entrance to the race (after having told her personally that he would not run).
That upset the applecart irretrievably. She never recovered after that and couldn’t find her footing. Looking back over those events, it looks like Perry cut her off at the knees (intentionally or not).
However, it went down, Perry’s surprise announcement seemed to have shifted the ground under Team Palin, not in a good way.
Yes.
It was creepy.
Especially one thread claiming everyone not supporting Palin was “just jealous.”
Ugh.
That was creepy.
Anyway. I hope FR gets back to being a productive place for real analysis and discussion of politics.
I did the same and finally just stopped going on most Palin threads at all.
That’s sad.
But I’m glad the rest of us tried to handle it as decently as we could. Sorry it often took remaining silent to keep the peace “around the table at Thanksgiving.”
I’m glad it’s over and I do hope lessons were learned by all as we drive deeper into a most important primary season.
I commend everyone who managed to stay civil!
What do you think is the import of the timing?
It’s amazing to me the number of people who claim to have faith enough in her to make the decisions as the most powerful person in the world that are required when President of the United States but don’t have faith that she could make the right decision about entering the race to become that person. I think they are either selfish, lying or really stupid when it comes to deciding which person should be entrusted with the responsibility to make those decisions.
I agree. I think she milked a lot of dollars from folks who in good faith backed her. Additionally, there may be a really bad documented scandle floating around out there. She looks like a money grubber.
Maybe she’s okay with that?
One thing I want to disagree with. Initially I thought if she got in, and even if not winning, she could at least sell her ‘message’ of anti-corruption/free-market/common-sense conservatism, and that would be a big positive, for both her and the race.
But, seeing the rabid media in full force this month with all those smears, I realized it would be like back in 2008, when her ‘record’ as governor never got out, due to all the nonsense. She almost certainly would ‘not’ have gotten her message out this time, it would have been totally drowned out. Which would have been terrible. By staying on the outside, even with a lessened megaphone (thanks to not being a candidate), and the lucky absense of media insanity, she might actually be able to promote her message MORE effectively.
I wish I could have recovered all the money I gave to Fred Thompson, too.
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