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” If memory serves it was a Conservative (by your logic) Southerner named Lyndon Baines Johnson.”

That’s not my logic. In fact that’s not logic at all, you’re using the common fallacy of petitio principii, “begging the question”. A good book on logical fallacies would benefit you, although the downside is that it would make your posts less entertaining.

Lyndon Johnson was a protege of FDR and as liberal as he could be. This set him far apart from the majority of Democrats in the south. Just as Barry Goldwater’s western conservatism set him far apart from the eastern establishment that ran the GOP in the 1960s.

And to inject a bit of history into your cartoonish rendering of Johnson’s Presidency, it was only with the cooperation of GOP liberals that Johnson’s Great Society programs passed.

Even the moderate Everett Dirksen was guilty of assisting Johnson in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, something Goldwater voted against. That’s the same Goldwater that Reagan supported with The Speech that started his political career.

“Further, if the Eastern Establishment Republicans dominated the GOP, how did he (Goldwater) become the Republican nominee for President? Your argument simply makes no sense.”

You mean you don’t know? Well the same William Rusher you were pretending to know up the thread wrote a book on how he, Rusher, and a small dedicated group of conservatives formed the Draft Goldwater Committee and won Barry the nomination against the fierce opposition of the Republican establishment.

It’s titled “The Rise of the Right”. Get that and a copy of “Copi’s Logic”. Make sure you read them instead of using them as doorstops.

” If memory serves it was a Conservative (by your logic) Southerner named Lyndon Baines Johnson.” That’s not my logic. In fact that’s not logic at all, you’re using the common fallacy of petitio principii, “begging the question”. A good book on logical fallacies would benefit you, although the downside is that it would make your posts less entertaining. Lyndon Johnson was a protege of FDR and as liberal as he could be. This set him far apart from the majority of Democrats in the south.

And yet, those same Conservative DemocRATS that "dominated" the RAT Party at the time, STILL chose him to be their nominee even though he was a Liberal from a Conservative Southern state. No. Wait. DemocRATS from Southern states were Conservatives back then. No. Wait. If DemocRATS from Southern states back then were Conservative then how did a Liberal like Johnson....

I'm sorry. I guess I just don't understand fellatio principii ad nauseum semper virens or whatever you called it.

Just as Barry Goldwater’s western conservatism set him far apart from the eastern establishment that ran the GOP in the 1960s.

Eastern Establishmet Republicans who "dominated" the GOP and STILL chose him to be their nominee. Maybe I shoulda gone to college. Perhaps you could tell me how the word "dominated" is defined in colleges and universties. Maybe then an uneducated hick such as myself will be able to understand what you're saying. Excuse me while I stuff another pinch of chaw between my cheek and gum.

And to inject a bit of history into your cartoonish rendering of Johnson’s Presidency,

Cartoonish? Hey, I didn't draw those ears. Those were real.

it was only with the cooperation of GOP liberals that Johnson’s Great Society programs passed.

OHHHHHHH! So you are willing to grant The GOP of the day credit for passing Johnson's cartoonish Great Society and War On Poverty programs but NOT for helping him pass Civil Rights legislation.

Am I getting closer?

Even the moderate Everett Dirksen was guilty of assisting Johnson in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, something Goldwater voted against. That’s the same Goldwater that Reagan supported with The Speech that started his political career.

Everett Dirksen? Okay, now you're just making names up.

“Further, if the Eastern Establishment Republicans dominated the GOP, how did he (Goldwater) become the Republican nominee for President? Your argument simply makes no sense.” You mean you don’t know? Well the same William Rusher you were pretending to know up the thread wrote a book on how he, Rusher, and a small dedicated group of conservatives formed the Draft Goldwater Committee and won Barry the nomination against the fierce opposition of the Republican establishment.

The "fierce" opposition that helped pass The Great Society but didn't help pass The Civil Rights Act. Got it.

It’s titled “The Rise of the Right”. Get that and a copy of “Copi’s Logic”. Make sure you read them instead of using them as doorstops.

Then how will I hold my door open?

To recap: Today's Republicans should refrain from suggesting that they helped pass The Civil Rights Act in order to gain favor with black voters even though a larger percentage of them voted for it than DemocRATS of the time BECAUSE today's Republicans are yesterday's DemocRATS, but, at the same time, they should not deny that they helped pass The Great Society and other cartoonish Johnson programs in order to gain favor with black voters because yesterday's Republicans were.....wait....I lost myself there somewhere.

Let me start over. Republicans bad, DemocRATS good.

Huh? Not bad, right?

Wait a minute! I think I got it! Everybody was on acid back then!

Orrrrrrrrr.....you're on acid now.

Lyndon Johnson was a protege of FDR and as liberal as he could be. This set him far apart from the majority of Democrats in the south.

I figured it out! Back in the 60s, Texas was an Upper Northwest Plains state located in the South Pacific Yukon Territory.

Whew! Now I totally understand.