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Group fighting LGBT teachings fails petition drive
SFGate ^ | 10/12/11 | Wyatt Buchanan

Posted on 10/12/2011 4:30:17 PM PDT by LonelyCon

Backers of an effort to repeal a law that requires schools teach about the historical contributions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, and people with disabilities, failed to collect enough signatures to qualify for the ballot.

The group, Stop SB48, which is named after the law, faced a Wednesday deadline to turn in just under 505,000 signatures. In an e-mail, the group said, "We thank all of you that worked so hard to provide the hundreds of thousands of signatures received. In the end, 90 days was too short a time to accomplish such a large task."

The nearly all-volunteer effort faced not only a short time frame, but a lack of significant contributions from national socially conservative organizations. The backers of the referendum noted that point in their e-mail.

"They said we did not have enough money, the commitment of enough groups, or enough days. Ultimately they were right. And in private perhaps they will ask if the effort they withheld would have made the critical difference," the e-mail stated.

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The law, which takes effect Jan. 1, requires that public schools include the historical contributions of LGBT people and people with disabilities in social science instructions. Textbooks also will have to include that information.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; curriculum; homosexualagenda
The Mormon Church backed Prop. 8 heavily, but now--not wanting to rock the boat while their golden boy Romney is in contention for the nomination--they won't even spend a dime to try to stop our children from being brainwashed by the gay agenda. Well, if this law sticks in the long term, it's a sure bet Prop. 8 will be overturned because yet another generation will grow up thinking gay is good.
1 posted on 10/12/2011 4:30:21 PM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

no way was they going to get that many contributions in that short a time, it’s impossible and they had the odds totally stacked against them.

Of curse the homosexuals knew this.


2 posted on 10/12/2011 4:32:10 PM PDT by manc (Don't fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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It’s not impossible. The same 90-day time limit applies to every referendum, and there are many that make it on the ballot every election cycle here. The problem is that, for whatever reason, conservatives from outside the state didn’t step up to help with this one.


3 posted on 10/12/2011 4:38:04 PM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: manc
The homosexuals imagine that just everybody important enough to make it into the history books was gay, so what they were really after were little notes about George Washington saying " a well known homosexual", and son on.

That's what they want.

That's not what they're going to get.

On the other hand I know history pretty well and the only significant homosexual I recall was Alexander the Great's father ~ and he died a drunk in a ditch murdered by his friends or something.

Now that was a top end gay Fur Shur.

4 posted on 10/12/2011 4:42:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LonelyCon
The problem is that, for whatever reason, conservatives from outside the state didn't step up to help with this one.

Never heard a word about this until just now. Was this common knowledge? Was there a post here on FR about it? Sounds like the folks fighting it did a piss poor job of spreading the word.

5 posted on 10/12/2011 4:46:23 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: SunTzuWu

I think you’re right. Nobody ever heard of the petition.

Also, why didn’t the article writer contact the national social conservative groups about this issue? Why didn’t the groups speak up about this on their own? Why didn’t the reporter say — or speculate - about how many signatures were obtained?

We know nothing.


6 posted on 10/12/2011 4:53:01 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: SunTzuWu

Here are four FR stories I quickly found.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2700534/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2744467/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2748604/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2779124/posts


7 posted on 10/12/2011 4:54:12 PM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

there are millions of people in CA, they did not have enough signatures to get this on the ballot in such a short time.

I helped to get the signatures on the ballot in my state and trust me you have to try very hard and it takes a lot of time to get them.

If you want to place blame on mormons from another state then go ahead but this has nothing to do with Romney or mormons in Utah this has to do with not enough time


8 posted on 10/12/2011 5:07:57 PM PDT by manc (Don't fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: muawiyah

this is no joke

The homosexuals came down to my town from MA and DC.
They wanted to fly their flags on our historic bridge and we said no so they sued of course.

They won for the weekend and flew them but now our commissioners made a law saying that only historic flags can now fly on that bridge.

That is Spanish, Florida, British confederate, American so what does this homo group now say

They tried to tell us that Ponce De Leon who discovered our town was a homosexual . Our city the oldest city in America and these idiots are now trying to prove that the explorers were homo’s

i swear they just are idiots but the thing is that they live up north and now come down to our state telling us this crap.!!!


9 posted on 10/12/2011 5:15:11 PM PDT by manc (Don't fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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They'll tell you all those guys were out there wandering around all over the place and there were no women.

Actually, there were a lot of women, and like all women they saw well dressed young men with fine steel swords, leather boots and woven cloth. They obviously had jobs and knew more than the local guys about what was out there in the world.

Not to say the Indian women threw themselves at the Spaniards, but the pickings were easy (if you can read between the lines in their journals).

When it comes to Mexicans, they had to come from somewhere eh?!

Estavancio left a DNA trail that continues to be identifiable.

10 posted on 10/12/2011 5:20:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: manc

What city are you talking about?


11 posted on 10/12/2011 5:22:00 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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St Augustine, in St Johns county, north east FL pal.


12 posted on 10/12/2011 5:27:30 PM PDT by manc (Don't fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: LonelyCon

Damn. I missed all of those. This is why I don’t get upset with folks who post duplicate threads. As much time as I spend here on FR, I still can’t read it all. Thanks for the links.


13 posted on 10/12/2011 5:34:24 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: LonelyCon
a lack of significant contributions from national socially conservative organizations

In light of this key fact, why are you blaming the LDS? Clearly social conservatives all over the nation didn't care about the issue.

14 posted on 10/12/2011 6:35:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: manc

It’s not that hard to do if you’re organized and have funding necessary to pay for professional signature gatherers. It’s routine done every election cycle. These organizers just couldn’t pull it off and there was obvious apathy among social conservatives.


15 posted on 10/12/2011 6:38:11 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: LonelyCon

Unfortunately, churches were not involved in this as deeply as they should have been. A campaign to get conservative, evangelical churches to circulate petitions among congregants would have done the job in short order.


16 posted on 10/12/2011 7:09:32 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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>>> if this law sticks in the long term, it’s a sure bet Prop. 8 will be overturned because yet another generation will grow up thinking gay is good.

That makes no sense whatsoever. The justices who will decide Prop 8 went to school when Nixon was president. One has no bearing on the other.

If there had been material citizen opposition the drive would have gotten its numbers quickly. Yes the gay teaching requirement is idiotic but the petition drive was just as pointless. It’s San Francisco.


17 posted on 10/12/2011 11:01:43 PM PDT by tlb
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>>> if this law sticks in the long term, it’s a sure bet Prop. 8 will be overturned because yet another generation will grow up thinking gay is good.

That makes no sense whatsoever. The justices who will decide Prop 8 went to school when Nixon was president. One has no bearing on the other.


Try this out. In a few years, a homosexual group pays the signature gatherers and gets an initiative re-defining marriage to include all permutations of male-female (and possibly other species) as a constitutional amendment. Because our kids have been brain washed that this is a civil right the initiative passes since us old farts are gone by then.

Result: Prop. 8 overturned. The judges do not get involved.
18 posted on 10/13/2011 10:20:20 AM PDT by fifedom
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To: LonelyCon
Actually, none of those posts you mention discuss the group circulating the petitions or their website in the initial post. They just discuss the law.

FWIW, the site is stopsb48.com
19 posted on 10/13/2011 10:25:32 AM PDT by fifedom
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