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A Bathhouse Setting Study HIV (25-33% of Gay and Bisexual Men in NYC estimated to be HIV Positive)
NYU 2011 Research Report ^ | 10/13/2011 | Demetre Daskalakis, MD

Posted on 10/13/2011 7:23:34 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash

Page 19 - In a bathouse in New York City, Demetre Daskalakis, MD hopes to solve the mysteries of long-term resistance to HIV infection. In this unusual setting he established an HIV testing site in 2007.

(Excerpt) Read more at communications.med.nyu.edu ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aids; hivaids; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; stds
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The article goes on to say that in these high risk places the HIV Positive rate is 3.5% - triple that of the general New York City population.

It is estimated that 25-33% of gay and bisexual men in NYC are HIV Positive.

Not only is this a horrible and preventable statistic, just think of the economic toll this takes on NYC.

1 posted on 10/13/2011 7:23:37 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Being gay isn't the problem, being a slut is the problem.
2 posted on 10/13/2011 7:28:36 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

So what? I’ve been told I’m supposed to embrace their behavior. Go at it, homosexuals!


3 posted on 10/13/2011 7:30:28 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Let’s see now . . . a very famous study showed the average life span of a male homosexual who has AIDS is 39 . . . the average life span of a male homosexual who doesn’t have AIDS is 41.

The average age of a smoker is 69-73.

69-41=28 years . . . Why aren’t we condemning homosexual activity as forcefully as we do with smoking? Huh? And all we see on TV is the promoting of homosexuality as normal . . . smokers as abnormal.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 7:30:55 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

That sums it up perfectly. Well said, FRiend.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 7:32:03 AM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

most homosexuals cannot help themselves and have to have sex at dog parks, public bathrooms etc.

This is yet another reason why they should not be serving, why they should not allowed to give blood.

Only a liberal idiot would not know that homosexuals carry much more diseases and run their lives by their sexual turn on’s i.e. homo rodeo, homo parades etc


6 posted on 10/13/2011 7:32:28 AM PDT by manc (Don't fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

You wrote:

“The article goes on to say that in these high risk places the HIV Positive rate is 3.5% - triple that of the general New York City population.” ...

“It is estimated that 25-33% of gay and bisexual men in NYC are HIV Positive.”

Your math has to be wrong, as those 2 statements don’t square logically, unless either:

(i) 9 out of 10 people in bathhouses are straight, or
(ii) HIV+ gays uniformly stay away from bathhouses.

I don’t think either of those are true.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 7:33:54 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

Homosexuality is not natural, carries more diseases, has less than average life span.

Their whole disgusting agenda is based on what they like to have sex with.


8 posted on 10/13/2011 7:35:23 AM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send reep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Ping


9 posted on 10/13/2011 7:36:03 AM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send reep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: wagglebee

ping


10 posted on 10/13/2011 7:38:25 AM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send reep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

But the militant homosexual crowd will still tell you that gay sex is NOT the #1 perpetuator of the HIV/AIDS virus. Gimme a break!!


11 posted on 10/13/2011 7:41:11 AM PDT by az.b1bbomberfxr
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To: WL-law

I found that very confusing as well.


12 posted on 10/13/2011 7:42:39 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

“If I were to tell the press millions of Americans would be blown up by an Iranian nut job or that Democrats have stolen their entire life savings with bailouts and Obamacare, nobody panics because it is all part of the plan...

But, if I say a few homosexuals in New York are upset over their little wee wees, why, everyone just loses their minds!”

Sincerely,

A. Joker


13 posted on 10/13/2011 7:44:00 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: az.b1bbomberfxr
gay sex is NOT the #1 perpetuator of the HIV/AIDS virus.

It's not gay sex. It's promiscuous anal sex.

If straight men and women routinely engaged in hetero anal sex with multiple partners, dozens to hundreds per year, it is likely AIDS would have spread just as fast in the hetero population.

Most of the other activities gay men and women engage in are much less likely to spread the virus.

In fact, the CDC says there has still not been a confirmed case of female to female spread of the virus.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/women/resources/factsheets/wsw.htm

14 posted on 10/13/2011 7:47:16 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Link does not go to article. Do you have a good link?


15 posted on 10/13/2011 7:53:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Sherman Logan
It's not gay sex. It's promiscuous anal sex.

Baloney. Men are properly banned from donating blood if they have engaged, even once, in "sex" with another man.

Given the exponentially unlikely event that homosexual behavior only happened once, that is not promiscuous. And yet, it bans the donation of blood - ever.

Experts even recommend that homosexual couples in long-term, "monogamous" relationships STILL wear "protection" to prevent possible infection.

16 posted on 10/13/2011 7:55:19 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: manc

Agreed.


17 posted on 10/13/2011 7:55:38 AM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: WL-law

I’m just quoting what was in the study. It is at the link - maybe you can find what the discrepancy is.


18 posted on 10/13/2011 7:56:23 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd, Medea Benjamin - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: xzins

The link goes to the published research journal, the article is on page 16 I believe.


19 posted on 10/13/2011 7:58:18 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd, Medea Benjamin - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

20 posted on 10/13/2011 7:58:27 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Sorry, it’s on page 19 of the linked publication.


21 posted on 10/13/2011 7:59:00 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd, Medea Benjamin - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: laweeks

We aren’t condemning homosexual behavior because of political correctness.

People don’t believe male homosexual behavior can be hazardous to the health. They think that since we have safe sex campaigns and bowls of condoms in gay bars, that the problem is solved.

And they see the gay character on TV shows are always the wisest and happiest people, so they have certain images of gays in their minds, and can’t believe what the health statistics shows.


22 posted on 10/13/2011 8:05:06 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Sherman Logan
Do the most basic of research into the amount of head/neck/throat and anal cancers in gay men vs the general population. AIDS is always the focus, but there are plenty of other diseases the gay population walks around with.
23 posted on 10/13/2011 8:08:33 AM PDT by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot....)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

[ Being gay isn’t the problem, being a slut is the problem. ]

NAILED IT (in a platonic way of course)


24 posted on 10/13/2011 8:10:49 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Oh, barry?...


25 posted on 10/13/2011 8:12:32 AM PDT by onedoug (lf)
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To: fwdude

That would be due to the combination of the typical frequency of the typically high-risk behavior throughout the population, thus adding further higher levels of infection for spreading through that means. It is the frequency of that particular behavior that makes that specific population at high risk generally.


26 posted on 10/13/2011 8:21:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: fwdude

A couple, heterosexual or homosexual, who have never had sex with anyone else have zero chance of contracting AIDS or HIV, regardless of what sexual activities they engage in.

My comment with regard to highly promiscuous heterosexual anal sex was a hypothetical, of course, as I am unaware of any human group that engages in such, outside of the porn industry, anyway.

But if they did, the health effects would be much the same as for homosexuals, who DO engage in such behavior, and which is the reason for their high risk status.

“Experts even recommend that homosexual couples in long-term, “monogamous” relationships STILL wear “protection” to prevent possible infection.”

Well of course they do! For one thing, it is well-known that “long-term” and “monogamous” have very different meanings for many homosexuals than to the general population. For the other reason, the infective status of either partner prior to the start of the relationship is a very real risk.

When it comes to potential infection, with AIDS or any other STD, you essentially have sex with everybody your partner has ever had sex with. If that number is one, as in a truly monogamous rather than serially polygamous relationship, the risk is zero. The risk factor increases dramatically with each additional contact either partner has ever had.

Long-term monogamous relationships do absolutely nothing to protect one if one’s partner comes into the relationship infected due to prior activities.


27 posted on 10/13/2011 8:44:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: bella1
AIDS is always the focus, but there are plenty of other diseases the gay population walks around with.

VERY true.

In fact, I have a personal theory that true "San Francisco bathhouse" behavior never existed for long in previous human history. Rapid spread of infectious disease would quickly wipe out any group that engaged in it.

Only in the late 20th century did it become feasible, as antibiotics and other treatments kept the participants alive and fornicating despite their contracting multiple diseases.

Ironically, this advance in itself allowed for the rapid spread of AIDS, as the behavior that allowed for the rapid spread was only possible (for more than a brief period) due to medical technology.

28 posted on 10/13/2011 8:49:18 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Let them donate blood! Let them join the Army!

/S


29 posted on 10/13/2011 9:00:31 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: laweeks
Why aren’t we condemning homosexual activity as forcefully as we do with smoking? Huh?

Because gay activists will do their best to ruin the lives of anybody who opposes their agenda. Look at what happened to people who contributed money to anti-gay-marriage initiatives when their names were outed.

30 posted on 10/13/2011 9:37:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Being gay is being a slut. It’s inherent in the lifestyle. The gay lifestyle is doing anything, anywhere, anytime one wants. It’s hedonism. There is no such thing as monogamy as its defined with gays. The lifestyle is inherently opposed to monogamy.


31 posted on 10/13/2011 9:41:22 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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32 posted on 10/13/2011 9:45:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Sherman Logan
It's not gay sex. It's promiscuous anal sex.

Correct. Which is also why HIV is such a big problem in the heterosexual population in Africa. There is rampant promiscuity and anal sex is used as a form of birth control there.

33 posted on 10/13/2011 9:49:12 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Sherman Logan

Interesting, thank you

You know have you ever thought how long cancer has been around?
I bet nearly all of us know someone who has died or had cancer and yet there is still not many ways to treat it.

How long was HIV and AIDS around, how long did it take for a tablet and a near cure to be made?


34 posted on 10/13/2011 9:52:25 AM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send freep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Another reason to reject NObamacare.

The cost of treating this disease is astromical & it is entirely self destructive.


35 posted on 10/13/2011 10:14:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 5thGenTexan

Not to mention some other somewhat bizarre het sexual practices I won’t go into detail on.

BTW, it is utterly politically incorrect to suggest there might be anything about African sexual practices that contribute to its high rate of infection.

Also, I have become highly skeptical of the infection rates mentioned for Africa. If the numbers were anywhere near as high as some of the claims, some of these countries should be dropping in population, and I don’t believe they are.


36 posted on 10/13/2011 10:22:03 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Future Snake Eater

I always remember the theatre critic, John Simon, running out of a gay-friendly show in the 1980s, yelling: “The theatre will never get back to normal until they all die of AIDS!”


37 posted on 10/13/2011 11:29:00 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: manc

A worthwhile scientific experiment would be to take blood samples from gays and blood samples from heterosexuals and then compare them for sexually transmitted diseases of every kind. What are some of the diseases that they carry? Isn’t hepatitis commonly found in gays?


38 posted on 10/13/2011 4:54:21 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Don’t know about Hepatitis, however wiener is almost always found in homos.


39 posted on 10/13/2011 4:58:17 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Notice how the percentage of men who have sex with men and women who have sex with men are nearly identical. Guess that means that women who have HIV are most likely getting it from men who have sex with other men. Could that go back to what goes on in the prison world?


40 posted on 10/13/2011 5:01:01 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

it is.

Homosexuals for some strange reason have to define their whole life , what they do, where they hang out, who they hang about with, how they act etc all about what turns them on sexually.

Now we have to put up with homosexuals giving blood.

LJ and I think wagglebee have a list and facts of homosexuals average life span, what diseases the average homosexual get etc


41 posted on 10/13/2011 5:30:31 PM PDT by manc (Beware pro OWS trolls who promote the protests on here,then send freep mail. Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: manc

Imagine Thanksgiving dinner—what do you see? Mothers, fathers, grandfathers, grandmothers, aunts, uncles, sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, male cousins and female cousins. See a pattern here? There are people of BOTH sexes at a typical Thanksgiving dinner. I wonder what a Thanksgiving dinner in the gay areas of San Francisco looks like? What will their “families” look like in a generation of same sex couples with children? Would it be a world of separation of the sexes and children being isolated from whole familes of mothers and fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers, aunts and uncles etc. Gays may “borrow” familes from others such as their neieces and nephews or they may adopt children but what will their extended families be like with only people of one sex or only gay or lesbian friends. There has never been such a subculture.


42 posted on 10/13/2011 7:18:52 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Sherman Logan
In fact, I have a personal theory that true "San Francisco bathhouse" behavior never existed for long in previous human history. Rapid spread of infectious disease would quickly wipe out any group that engaged in it.

Possible, but remember that long-distance travel was not particularly common before the 20th century, so venereal disease outbreak would likely affect only one locality at a time.

However, modern experience has been something along the lines of what you have suggested: the AIDS epidemic has slowed (but by no means halted) the rampant carnality of many homosexual men. The novelty of our times has been the homosexual couple seeking legal and societal normalization as a societal unit on equal footing with a married couple.

43 posted on 10/14/2011 3:14:35 AM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: Sherman Logan
A couple, heterosexual or homosexual, who have never had sex with anyone else have zero chance of contracting AIDS or HIV, regardless of what sexual activities they engage in.

Yes, although it would be wrong to suggest that if homosexual behavior can be "tamed" and "normalized" it will be innocuous (not that you have). The promiscuity factor goes hand-in-hand with the unnatural vice and the refusal to subordinate impulse to will (or even just the sheer perversity of the will)

44 posted on 10/14/2011 3:23:53 AM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver

Anal sex, straight or gay, is inherently unhealthy. The human bowel is loaded with truly massive amounts of bacteria, and intimate contact with it is by definition bad for your health. AIDS did not create the unhealthy nature of gay sex, it just added to it.

One of the funniest things I ever read was by a liberal minister who wrote an entire essay about how our “prejudice” against this type of sexual activity and this part of the body was merely a stereotype.

As if bacteria and parasites can be bullied into being politically correct in the same way people can.

And they call themselves “the reality-based community!”


45 posted on 10/14/2011 3:40:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: MegaSilver

In this case I was not referring to “veneral disease” as such, but rather to the many, many infectious diseases anal sex does such a dandy job of transmitting. They aren’t normally referred to as STDs even though they are indeed transmitted primarily sexually.

You hear very little about these outside of specialty medical journals because it isn’t politically correct to discuss the huge number of health problems caused by homosexual behavior, especially when promiscuous. AIDS is the only one talked about, and the normal spin on it implies that it is somehow Reagan’s fault.


46 posted on 10/14/2011 3:45:44 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Being gay isn’t the problem, being a slut is the problem.”

It is part of the lifestyle. The acts of the sodomite’s behavior include rimming, felching, both of which result in fecal consumption. Fecal consumption leads to constant contamination of the upper GI tract with fecal coliforms and this results in a host of health issues. They are now teaching children that this is acceptable.


47 posted on 10/14/2011 4:26:14 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Being gay isn’t the problem, being a slut is the problem.”

It is part of the lifestyle. The acts of the sodomite’s behavior include rimming, felching, both of which result in fecal consumption. Fecal consumption leads to constant contamination of the upper GI tract with fecal coliforms and this results in a host of health issues. They are now teaching children that this is acceptable.


48 posted on 10/14/2011 4:26:19 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot

They put the dodo in the mouth?????


49 posted on 10/14/2011 6:20:37 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

The gay community has a problem with not just promiscuous sex, but with the sexual encounters being fueled by meth and other party drugs... which are sometimes even used in conjunction with Viagra.

This results in extended sex sessions which are very damaging to soft tissue. Blood, semen, saliva, and fecal matter co-mingle, resulting in a host of health issues as well as disease transmission.

PNP, or “Party and Play”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_and_play


50 posted on 10/14/2011 5:00:22 PM PDT by Third Person
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