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American Meltdown: Two Revolts, Entirely Different Revolutionaries
Townhall.com ^ | October 13, 2011 | Matt Towery

Posted on 10/13/2011 8:18:58 AM PDT by Kaslin

America is undergoing a revolution. Two revolutions, to be exact. One is made up of hardworking families who believe that what matters -- or should matter -- are their good efforts, minimal government intrusion in their lives, and a fair but free enterprise system that incentivizes small businesses and doesn't countermand that incentive by imposing a burdensome tax liability.

The other revolution is made up of people who believe that both government and those who are successful in life owe them something; that the United States should be a nation of equitable distribution, and not one of free enterprise. Sadly, the polling tells me that these two nations within one are meeting in the middle. They don't share beliefs, but they are sharing similar frustrations.

A president with a class-warfare mindset has joined with the likes of some predictable people and organizations that typically benefit from economic envy. They have set the stage for a growing uprising of frustrated people who now occupy Wall Street and other cities in America. This strange collection of multicolored hair, anti-everything signs and demands for a basic redistribution of the nation's wealth is gaining more momentum, thanks at least in some measure to a sucker press. This is the same media that for so long refused to recognized another movement of frustrated Americans, the tea party, until many months and countless rallies into it.

Here is the problem: These two entirely different movements want completely different "revolutions." The "Wall Street Protesters" want, at the least, Barack Obama and his redistribution of America's wealth returned to the fore of public policy. At the worst, they want a genuine revolution, hoping that frustration turns to anarchy. They set up a warren of tents, leave behind piles of garbage and in some cases engage in threatening or even violent behavior.

On the other hand, the tea party groups bring their folded chairs, patriotic hats and their young kids to public assemblies. They gather peacefully, have their say -- and clean up after themselves.

Sounds like they have nothing in common. But they do.

They've all been left without a pot to pee in, if you'll pardon the expression, by a Bush administration that let spending get totally out of control and saw plenty of friends and lobbyists get filthy rich off cozy connections instead of hard work.

Then "The Accelerator" arrived on the scene. President Obama wants to tax the rich, but more, he wants to use some of that tax money to feather the nests of "clean energy" companies that raised him big bucks in his own presidential campaign. President "Spread the Wealth" has spread nothing but fear, resentment and huge government "stimulus" contracts to everyone in his loyal orbit.

But do you think those fools trying to find a place (we hope) to take a shower on the hard pavement of the streets they occupy have a clue that they are being manipulated by labor, moveon.com and others who will sleep soundly in their own mansions while the protestors raise hell in the streets? It's not likely.

We have all been taken for complete suckers. We have a ruling political class, cozy with book deals, foundations, fancy fundraisers, and we have a rotten-to-the-core political electorate. The combination has allowed this to happen.

Even more incredibly, the mainstream media constantly try to portray the tea party as a bunch of nuts, while gingerly referring to the whacky collection of "street protesters" as people fed up with corruption in the business world.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to give a boot to the behind of many of these "bailout" bluebloods. And yes, I think it is about time that huge corporations start investing in America rather than hiding their cash in case the whole darn free market system collapses. But that doesn't mean that what belongs to someone else should be mine; or, as one lunatic group among the "Occupy" crowd advocates, that it would be the right thing to do to force professionals, like physicians, to take salaries of $30,000 a year. Can't you just see people lining up to attend medical school for that?

Trust me. We are in for one wild ride. All we can hope is that the revolutionaries who carry the folding chairs and sing "God Bless America" can hold on long enough for this other crowd not to totally destroy our country. And please: No more George W. Bushes or Barack Obamas. We can't take another four years of our "ruling political class" and their likes.


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1 posted on 10/13/2011 8:19:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

We patriots have the guns and we know how to use them.

The filthy hoards couldn’t hit a urinal cake with their pee stream.


2 posted on 10/13/2011 8:25:59 AM PDT by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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3 posted on 10/13/2011 8:33:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

“The other revolution is made up of people who believe that both government and those who are successful in life owe them something; that the United States should be a nation of equitable distribution, and not one of free enterprise.”

The supporters of THIS revolution should spend a week in one of the third world sh%$ holes whose ‘governments’ have and forcibly maintain JUST the kind of ‘system’ they think is a proper replacement for OURS!!!

THEN we’ll have a conversation with them.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 8:39:16 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Socialism means slavery." Lord Acton)
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To: Yankee

heh...

There are not enough of us WILLING to USE those weapons against the leftists.

There are too few of us WILLING to give up their comfortable little life of servitude to the collective.

There are just too few serious men willing to take serious steps to regain our sovereignty from the state and collective.

At least from what Ive seen so far...

Its time to beat the plows into swords and start getting rowdy with the M’er F’ers.

We have guns... No doubt... The hard part is filling our people with the terrible will to use them. Honestly, I dont ever think we will get this mild mannered “horde” of friendly neighbors and nice people to every incite violence against anyone or anything.... however,

We may be able to get them to defend something...


5 posted on 10/13/2011 8:47:29 AM PDT by myself6
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To: Kaslin

I’ll say it again:

I would love, LOVE for the non-absolutes to begin getting rowdy as their calls for revolution turn into action. At that point, the police and national Guard would stand aside and let tens of thousands of armed, trained, pissed-off middle class Americans absolutely wipe the floor with the communist parasites of society.

When ordinary Americans are allowed to take on those who are actively pursuing anarchy and collapse of the United States, we will absolutely, positively see the complete END of socialism in America, because the cleanup will be done by your next-door neighbor rather than by some faceless group that can be labeled “The Man”.


6 posted on 10/13/2011 8:57:03 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: snowrip

I disagree.

These subversives want NOTHING MORE than somebody to inflict violence on them.

The MSM will then take up the cause full bore for the “Martyrs of Wall St” - butchered by “right wing Tea Party members”

My advice is ignore, ignore, ignore


7 posted on 10/13/2011 9:03:10 AM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: myself6; Travis McGee; Chode; Kaslin
Its time to beat the plows into swords and start getting rowdy with the M’er F’ers.

Wrong. There may very well be a Lexington & Concord moment in the near future, but it is not for our side to provoke.

Should the OWS rabble provoke violence it will be mopped up by local LEOs and reflect badly on their DNC supporters in 2012. But if anyone in DC uses that violence as a pretense for an extra-Constitutional power grab, our side should be well prepared to "uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic" as outlined by the Founding Fathers in the DoI and BoR.

Keep your powder both dry and plentiful for now.

8 posted on 10/13/2011 9:10:19 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: myself6
Honestly, I dont ever think we will get this mild mannered “horde” of friendly neighbors and nice people to every incite violence against anyone or anything....

Don't confuse 'mild mannered' with 'well mannered'. All it will take is a galvanizing incident to fill enough of us with "a terrible resolve" that Yamamoto rightly feared. He was also correct in his obeservation regarding "a rifle behind every blade of grass." That was never more true than it is now.

We are, for the most part, a reasonable and live-and-let-live people. Until you mess with us.

9 posted on 10/13/2011 9:11:00 AM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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10 posted on 10/13/2011 9:21:54 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I bet the kid holding that sign winds up with a government job.


11 posted on 10/13/2011 9:55:23 AM PDT by ngat
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To: SMARTY
The supporters of THIS revolution should spend a week in one of the third world sh%$ holes whose ‘governments’ have and forcibly maintain JUST the kind of ‘system’ they think is a proper replacement for OURS!!!

They won't have to go far. Thats where we're heading.
12 posted on 10/13/2011 9:57:11 AM PDT by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: crosshairs

These demonstrators have a voice out of all proportion to their actual numbers. They are the minority OF a minority!!

How they want to force changes that more than 50% of this country oppose is beyond me!!


13 posted on 10/13/2011 10:03:00 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Socialism means slavery." Lord Acton)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

THAT’S America the RIGHT WAY!!


14 posted on 10/13/2011 10:05:08 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Socialism means slavery." Lord Acton)
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To: DTogo

ok...

Keep on keeping your powder dry... heh...

That means we don’t have to actually DO anything. We can make ourselves feel better by saying we haven’t freed ourselves of these F’ers and teh chains they have placed on us, because some line we keep erasing and redrawing in the sand as we backup deeper into the desert, hasn’t been crossed yet...

They (the socialists) have the will to win... Apparently we are waiting around for the will to win to make us lose control of our “better nature” and “kill em all”... lol

Better to just wait around until the mood to kill the enemy strikes enough of us at the same time? heh... that’s essentially your whole argument. Wait until they do something so outrageous that “everyone” will be driven to pick up their guns and start shootin the leftists.

How about accomplishing something along the lines of secession? To hard?

Keep your powder dry brother... in fact.. bury it in the desert and forget where you left it for all the good it does us...


15 posted on 10/13/2011 10:09:42 AM PDT by myself6
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To: Noumenon

We have been “messed with” for a generation or more and its only accelerating, in fact, its graduated to full on rape.

That “one galvanizing indecent” you are waiting around for isnt going to happen. The people we are up against are students of social behavior (among other things). While they may be tyrants they are not stupid.

They will continue to consolidate power. They will continue to eat away at the minds of the young and weak. By the time the “galvanizing incident” you are eagerly awaiting happens, there will be too few left to galvanize into anything other than a coffin in which to bury the remainder of our freedom.

It IS time to get serious about breaking free from the tyranny this government has become and the infected minds that have built, maintained and feed it. If we want our freedom back were going to have to take it, it wont be given freely.


16 posted on 10/13/2011 10:28:54 AM PDT by myself6
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To: Kaslin
these two nations within one are meeting in the middle

No, they are NOT "meeting" anywhere.

The "right" wants the gov't to GTFO.
The "left" wants the gov't to be their all-providing god.

Both extremes are struggling over the transfer of money from right-side pockets to left-side pockets, and their only commonality is objecting to that money being siphoned into middle pockets. OCW types think they should be receiving all the money, while Tea Party types think nobody should be taking theirs.

17 posted on 10/13/2011 10:32:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

That’s one that needs to go up on their website...


18 posted on 10/13/2011 10:36:06 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: myself6
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

While perhaps violating some NYC ordinances (which is up to NYC to deal with), and conveying a message many disagree with, OWS appears to be simply exercising their 1st Amendment Right. Nothing deserving of "...getting rowdy with the M’er F’ers" at this time, IMHO.

19 posted on 10/13/2011 10:36:39 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: ngat

Oh, I hope not...

But then again if they join the Armed Services, then heck yeah...


20 posted on 10/13/2011 10:38:56 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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