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To: caww
Allegra...I like you so I choose not to respond to the name calling stuff you're putting out there...I think higher of you then that. Rather I do understand you support Perry..but we will differ greatly in that respect.

I've liked you, too, as well as others. But I've seen so many that I've liked and respected turn into hyenas over the past couple of months.

I am not in the tank for Perry. I am about preventing Romney from getting the nomination. I will support Perry, Cain, even Gingrich over Romney.

I've pretty much held my tongue over these past few weeks as I've watched people I've always liked twist, distort, insult and attack.

But, I've had it. You do realize when you slander and insult Texans, that includes many people I love as well as yours truly, right? So, let's be honest about where the name-calling started.

127 posted on 10/13/2011 6:20:57 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Allegra

What has happened that the campaign of Perry, who does NOT hate illegal immigrants and think they are the bane of existence and should all be deported or tossed in jail has exposed an ugly vein in the conservative movement. “Ricardo Perry”, illegals are “ticks”, etc. gives you a clue about the REAL issue.


130 posted on 10/13/2011 6:26:13 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Allegra

Dittos......Perry is not perfect, but he is more perfect than Romney, I just want Perry on his game.He will never have the MSM behind him.He needs to take off the gloves and I hope he does.

Perry is a good man, the best of the field:

http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2011/09/c130_rick_perry_he_flew_the_wo.html

C-130 Rick Perry: He Flew The World Before Politics

C-130 Rick Perry: He flew the world before politics

Abilene Online

By Sarah Kleiner Varble

Rank: Retired as a captain

Hometown: Haskell

Crew job: C-130 aircraft commander

Served in the Air Force: 1972 to 1977

Dyess AFB tour: March 4, 1974, to Feb. 28, 1977

His story:Way back before he was governor of Texas, Rick Perry had two choices as a young member of the Air Force.

He could either follow his dream and work toward becoming an instructor pilot in the sleek T-38, or he could fly the hulking C-130, planes that affectionately were referred to as “trash haulers” by Perry and his cohorts.

“There was no telling what you were going to haul around on any given day, from high value cargo like human beings to the colonel’s kitty litter,” Perry told the Reporter-News in a recent phone interview.

He wanted to fly T-38s, but not badly enough to move to Selma, Ala., where he would have been assigned. So, Perry chose to stay in Texas and fly the C-130.

In 1974, he moved to Dyess Air Force Base, about 55 miles from his hometown of Haskell, and began a career that took him all over the world and shaped his political future.

“It was one of the great adventures of my life,” Perry said. “I had a fairly pedestrian life until I was 23 years old.”

Perry could count on one hand the number of trips he had taken out of his home state by the time he graduated from Texas A&M University, but everything changed when he joined the Air Force.

Flying C-130s, Perry lived in Germany and Saudi Arabia. He flew in Central and South America, North Africa and all over Europe.

“I saw all of these different types of governments and I made the connections to how the people acted and looked, and it became abundantly clear to me that, at that particular point in time, that America was this very unique place and that our form of democracy was very rare,” Perry said. “ ... That was the greatest gift I received from my years of being in the military, and they really shaped my outlook on the rest of my life.”

Perry retired from the Air Force in 1977 — but not without one last adventure.

As his final days approached, Perry was assigned to a mission to “haul trash” to Bermuda with a relatively inexperienced crew.

“I’m sure the young guys stayed up a little longer than the older guy, which would be me at 26 years old,” Perry said, and they fell asleep on the way back to Abilene.

About the time the plane reached Atlanta, a fire light for the No. 3 engine flashed once. And then it flashed again.

Perry poked his co-pilot as the light reappeared and held steady on red.

Using the headset, he asked the loadmaster to take a look at the engine from the window and about that time, the engine exploded and blew a tail pipe off the plane.

“He started screaming that we were on fire and that we were all going to die,” Perry said. “The aircraft operated as advertised and flies amazingly well on three engines.”

Perry and his crew were stuck at Pope Air Force Base while awaiting a new engine. With three days left in his enlistment, Perry called the command post at Dyess and informed them that they would have to send a new pilot along with the engine if they didn’t hurry.

“I said, ‘In three days, I’m not Captain Perry anymore, I’m Mr. Perry, and I’m going home,” Perry said.

The engine arrived and the plane returned to Dyess in time for Perry to retire Feb. 28, as planned.

He went on to be elected to the state House of Representatives, agriculture commissioner, lieutenant governor and, finally, governor of Texas.


181 posted on 10/13/2011 9:16:58 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Allegra

Politics are nasty under the best of conditions...but this election certainly operates within a very distressed and unstable time and we’re all being affected as we see our country disintegrate before us.

This then plays out on the threads I think....further the selection isn’t the best of the best, which could have been. But really who wants to pick up Obamas mess??? Not to mention ride the helm as we see the ultimate affect of his policies play out AFTER he leaves.

I too get annoyed with the posters but accept that we differ on who we desire as Pres. and the slamming etc. just goes with....unfortunately.

Yes much of what’s happening is a media /demorat push to position Romney....but I am of the mind Perry and Romney are both sewn from the same cloth... and neither has the interests of our country in mind, rather their own agendas.

I am favoring Newt at this time becuase he has nothing to loose by giving his all..... he knows what to do and how to navigate washington barriers...He’s the same age as Reagan when he took office and doesn’t need to consider what his decisions will do to a future political career....this is the IT for Newt or not. And he is all for our country. Not to mention he’d cream Obama in a debate.

As for my knocking Texans...well yes...those who have supported Perrys continueous policies and voting him in year after year.. Texans who voted Perry have enabled the mess on the border by re-electing him time and again. Though I understand this last election he would not have won had Palin not stepped up to support him. Which evidences Texans are coming around.

Thanks for clarifying that you are all about preventing Romney getting in office.....that makes a strong statement to me and I can appreciate that.

Truce then Allegra....


203 posted on 10/14/2011 7:51:16 AM PDT by caww
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