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To: Pelham

One answer is a 6-Month Temporary Work Visa.... HOWEVER - the solution is to make it so that you CAN NOT get one of those, nor renew one, IN the US.

All illegals would have to return to Mexico to get one.

Screen them (no felons, or criminals, &c.) and then track them. The fees could include the price of a bus ticket home to get that renewal. Failure to comply means no more American dream for you, Hombre.

It’s just a thought. Try not to flame me too hard.


17 posted on 10/14/2011 7:33:17 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie
Too Liberal ~ only 90% of the illegals come from Mexico. Actually, one way to deal with this is find a truly needy third world country in Africa where they still do "forced labor" ~ we FLY all the illegals we catch to that country and give them $1000 a head to make sure they stay there.

Wouldn't take much of that and I think our problem would disappear.

39 posted on 10/14/2011 7:51:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Noamie

“One answer is a 6-Month Temporary Work Visa.... HOWEVER - the solution is to make it so that you CAN NOT get one of those, nor renew one, IN the US.”

The problem I see is that we tried a well intentioned solution with the Reagan amnesty in 1986. Only the amnesty part ever got implemented. Every administration following his subverted every sanction built into that law.

I expect that if we enacted a Temporary Work Visa it would become a permanent visa almost immediately and would be used to vastly expand the number of people coming here for jobs. Not so great for that portion of the American population directly competing with a huge number of foreign nationals willing to work here in barracks style circumstances.


57 posted on 10/14/2011 8:09:23 AM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: Noamie

Mexico is using some chip embedded card to track their Guatemalan guest workers.

Guatemalan Guestworkers. Continual lobbying by Guatemalan authorities, especially by Rómulo Alfredo Caballeros, adroit ambassador in Mexico City, sparked a bilateral meeting about jornaleros, under the auspices of the Mexico-Guatemala Binational Group on Migratory Affaris. In Tapachula on February 12, 2002, after three hours of discussions, federal and state officials established an ad hoc group on Guatemalan temporary migrant workers, which would meet two to four times per year.37 The participants also formed a Subgroup on Agricultural Labor.

Roberto Rodríguez Hernández, an official of Mexico’s Foreign Relations Ministry, pledged to make certain that finca owners respected the workers’ human and labor rights. He also announced that “with new technology and modern equipment, Guatemalan agricultural workers will enter Mexico with an intelligent card with [computer] chips to permit better control of the location and length of stay of workers.” This device, he added, “will demonstrate that the Mexican government is concerned about establishing an orderly, regular flow of migrants [who enjoy] their labor rights as jornaleros.” Herbert W. Bech-Cabrera, Guatemala’s head of consular affairs, expressed his hope that the ad hoc group would lead to a “more humane” treatment of Guatemalan workers38 — a promise previously articulated in a mid-1997 meeting of Central American migration commissioners in Mexico City.39

http://www.cis.org/MexicoSouthernBorder-Policy

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The Mexican government has made the immigration issue its top priority with the Bush administration. In pressing their agenda, Fox, Castañeda, and Hernández enjoy support from large business, labor, religious, human-rights, and migrant organizations. Although the treatment of their immigrants is important to Central American nations, they do not have the resources with which to protect their nationals. The proposed establishment of joint consulates could enable them to employ more efficiently the money available for migration issues. These countries also lack in Mexico the plethora of effective advocates that Fox et al. can count on in the United States.41 Not even the Guatemalan community in Mexico, which numbers 500,000 or more people, has a coherent organization, much less a lobbying capability. It appears that officials in El Salvador, a New Jersey-sized country bursting at the seams with people, turn a blind eye as some 36,000 of its citizens seek opportunities outside their poverty-stricken nation each year. Not only does their exodus diminish demands on social services at home, remittances from abroad enriched El Salvador’s sputtering economy by $1.91 billion last year — with an additional $447.4 million pouring in during the first quarter of 2002.

Along Mexico’s northern frontier, the NAFTA members — led by the United States and Canada — have created the North American Development Bank (NADB) and the Border Environmental Cooperation Commission (BECC) to improve water and sewer systems in border cities. Problems plague both of these bodies. Nevertheless, the NADB and BECC are functioning agencies with concrete goals and specific achievements. In contrast, the Plan Puebla-Panamá appears to be a leap of faith. Even if the proposal becomes a reality, it will have little impact on Southern Chiapas, where lawlessness, poverty, and human rights violations flourish. If completed, a 1,000-mile long corridor could facilitate the northward smuggling of goods and people as well as development.

The presence of the Electoral College further differentiates the United States from Mexico. Hispanic Americans command ever more attention from American political parties not only because they now constitute the nation’s largest minority, but because they are disproportionately concentrated in California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey, and Illinois. These states cast two-thirds of the 270 electoral votes required to capture the White House. Scattered minorities from Central American countries wield no such influence in Mexico, where the candidate who wins the most votes nationally becomes chief executive.

The Mexican and international media are far more attentive to activities along Mexico’s northern border than its southern border. Contributing to the disproportional coverage is the presence in the north of more than a score of large cities with daily newspapers and television and radio stations. Fox’s pre-Christmas visits to the north — to welcome home Mexican immigrants as “heroes” — also garner attention.

In a similar vein, Rafael Fernández de Castro, one of Mexico’s most distinguished academics and editor of the Spanish-language version of Foreign Affairs, has criticized Foreign Secretary Castañeda for “forgetting about Central America” even as he pursues a “honeymoon with the United States.” Mexico, the scholar charged, has implemented a policy toward illegal migrants from Central America that is “more racist and discriminatory than that of the United States on [Mexico’s] northern border.”44


102 posted on 10/17/2011 3:35:35 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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