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Romney's rise challenges tea party's clout in GOP (BARF ALERT)
AP ^ | 2011-10-15 | Charles Babington

Posted on 10/15/2011 9:27:00 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON (AP) — Mitt Romney's early success in the Republican presidential race is challenging the tea party's clout. Will it continue to pull the GOP sharply right? Will it slowly fade? Or merge with mainstream Republican elements in a nod to pragmatism, something it's hardly known for?

On the surface, Romney's strength seems at odds with the tea party's fiery success in ousting Republicans seen as compromisers, and in making the House GOP caucus more ideological, even when its leaders plead for flexibility.

Romney defends the government's 2008 bank bailouts, plus the mandated health insurance he initiated as Massachusetts governor. He says he can work with "good Democrats." Although he later changed, Romney once supported abortion rights, gun control and gay rights.

These positions run counter to the beliefs and goals of many tea party activists scattered throughout the country. Yet Romney is faring better in polls, fundraising and debates than are contenders with stronger tea party credentials, including Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; dnc4romney; enemedia; gop; msm4romney; romney; romney2decide4u; romney2lose; soros4romney; stenchofromney; teaparty

1 posted on 10/15/2011 9:27:05 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

I really, really, really, really dislike these people (AP, and the media). I didn’t want to use the word hate, but boy, they are pushing the envelope.


2 posted on 10/15/2011 9:30:10 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney has not risen he has stayed the same and 75% of the folks do not want him as their candidate. I would bet a solid one half of those will never vote for him in the primaries. He better hope that they change their mind if he gets the nomination. However, until then it is a battle between “We The People and the elite media/political class. I know who is supposed to win such battles.


3 posted on 10/15/2011 9:33:01 AM PDT by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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To: rabscuttle385

AP failing to realize that in another 13 months of this utter economic BS, short of a literal miracle, people will look to do what the Dems so eloquently ran on in 2008: Anyone but Bush. It will ultimately boil down to ANYONE but OBAMA! =.=


4 posted on 10/15/2011 9:34:39 AM PDT by cranked
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To: rabscuttle385

than are contenders with stronger tea party credentials, including Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry
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Perry does NOT have strong Tea Party credentials.


5 posted on 10/15/2011 9:36:42 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: rabscuttle385
"Mitt Romney's early success in the Republican presidential race is challenging the tea party's clout."

This statement is true. The rest of it was BS.

If Romney wins the Tea Party is going to be hurt bad.

6 posted on 10/15/2011 9:43:19 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: rabscuttle385
Romney once supported abortion rights, gun control and gay rights.

He's going to have to "rise" without my vote in 2012. No big deal though. He'll have the homosexual vote, the feminazi vote and the gun grabber vote.

7 posted on 10/15/2011 9:45:26 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Greed" is wanting everything and demanding that somebody else pay for it.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Rise? What Rise? He gets the same 23% in poll after poll after poll. Romney isn’t “rising” in anything


8 posted on 10/15/2011 9:46:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

This is AP. That’s all that needs to be said. They want Romney just as they wanted McCain. If they get him, they will turn on him because their ultimate objective is the re-election of Barack HUSSEIN Obama.


9 posted on 10/15/2011 9:55:48 AM PDT by sgfan1212
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I don’t consider 25% approval clout. The other factor they’re ignoring is Palin. Until she dropped out of the race she had quite a bit of support on hold. Now that it’s been released her supporters are looking at the rest of the field.

Most, if not all, of that support is going to Cain. Mittens’ numbers certainly didn’t go up. Now that Cain has the momentum, his support will grow as more of the voters find out who he is and hear his message.

Romney’s already peaked. Cain isn’t close to his final numbers yet.


10 posted on 10/15/2011 10:11:36 AM PDT by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: rep-always

The anybody but Mitt sentiment is not going away. Perry had his opportunity and blew it with abysmal debate performances. Now, it’s Cain’s chance to rise to the occasion. If he can prove he’s more than a one-trick pony (999) and can show a depth of understanding on a broader range of issues — he’s going to win the nomination. Fundamentally, people like Herman Cain. Fundamentally, people distrust Mitt Romney.


11 posted on 10/15/2011 10:11:59 AM PDT by vekzen
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To: MNJohnnie
These brilliant pundits must have failed grade school math and all math after that (assuming they went on educationally).

If you add all the rest (except maybe Huntsman), the TEA Party has at least 70% and last I looked that beat 20 — 30 by a LOT. (Using words the brilliant can understand.)

I know Rick Perry is far from solid with the TEA Party, but the things he's currently saying mostly appeal to the TEA Party too excepting immigration which is a pretty big deal. It remains true that making DC irrelevant, getting rid of the UN, drilling here, now, and everywhere are pretty popular with all of us and some of us don't know about some of his earlier positions...

Bottom line we win 70% to 30% minimum unless we splinter.

12 posted on 10/15/2011 10:15:57 AM PDT by Sal (We want to run against Obama because he's the weakest boob since Carter. Even way worse.)
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To: Sal

FYI posted on Drudge Palin changed her status on facebook from Republican to conservative. I think she’s done with the GOP.


13 posted on 10/15/2011 10:24:26 AM PDT by littlesorrel
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To: MNJohnnie

I should clarify. I’m not a Perry supporter, I’m for Herman Cain. In the very beginning I liked him and Bachmann, but he has been more solid than she...

I said that about Perry because there is a lot about Perry that appeals to the TEA Party despite the other stuff, and I would prefer him to Romney, but that’s as far as I go with him. Bottom line: we, not the Establishment, get his numbers when the final vote is in. (Assuming we don’t kill each other off first.)


14 posted on 10/15/2011 10:28:20 AM PDT by Sal (We want to run against Obama because he's the weakest boob since Carter. Even way worse.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Nominate Romney if you want 4 more years of Obama, GOP, I won’t backing him.


15 posted on 10/15/2011 10:35:25 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The Tea Party is saving their powder until they see the whites of their eyes and then fire for effect!!


16 posted on 10/15/2011 10:35:41 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: chris37

anybody but Obama


17 posted on 10/15/2011 10:38:14 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Romney's the guy running behind Herman Cain, right?
18 posted on 10/15/2011 10:41:56 AM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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To: rabscuttle385
Romney's the guy running behind Herman Cain, right?
19 posted on 10/15/2011 10:42:03 AM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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To: littlesorrel

OMG. I hope this means she’ll support one of our Conservatives sooner or later and not that she’s going third party like maybe with Trump. Just thinking that she DID meet with him not too far back.

Wouldn’t it be a kick if she challenged Hussein, running as a Conservative Democrat... Say in the image of JFK (who I thought was practially a Communist at the time, but he looks not that bad compared to today’s Dems.

All she’d have to do is re-register and humiliate him in the debates. Not saying she’d win, but she could hurt him.

I’m told Trump was on Greta last week and he told her there would likely be a challenge to Hussein and that she, Greta, was going to love it!

Palin really is a maverick, but I sure hope she doesn’t go third party as that is probably the ONLY way Hussein can win and we do have some good people running.


20 posted on 10/15/2011 10:42:27 AM PDT by Sal (We want to run against Obama because he's the weakest boob since Carter. Even way worse.)
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To: elpadre

No, I’m not gonna.

The GOP doesn’t want me, and I don’t want them.

If that means the end of the country, well then I guess that’s what it means.


21 posted on 10/15/2011 10:47:03 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

If we elect Romney the country will go down. If we stick to our principles and vote for an agreed upon conservative and lose, then obama will be reelected and the country will go down. Better to have it go down under a demoncRAT. So I say let us vet the conservatives and agree on one of them and stick with him through all the nay-saying and tons of money spent on the Trojan Horse.


22 posted on 10/15/2011 10:54:11 AM PDT by WVNan (!)
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To: Sal

This is the reason that I am not backing anyone until I know finally what Sarah is going to do. It may come down to the last day to vote, but I’m there for the woman who has been my president since she set foot on stage.


23 posted on 10/15/2011 10:57:40 AM PDT by WVNan (!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

If Romney gets the nomination he will pick a very conservative running mate. Deja vu all over again.


24 posted on 10/15/2011 11:26:48 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: WVNan

There is only one way this moron infested country is going to learn, and that is the hard way.

Let the learning begin.


25 posted on 10/15/2011 11:52:29 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: freespirited
Yeah true. Just remember though McCain had no intention of swearing in Palin as VP:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2789618/posts

26 posted on 10/15/2011 11:54:30 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: meatloaf

I am not going to argue with you. I hate Romney and want Cain to win.


27 posted on 10/15/2011 12:01:25 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: rabscuttle385

WHAT RISE? He’s been stuck below 30% the entire campaign and can’t crack it.


28 posted on 10/15/2011 2:20:05 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Obama - No matter how thin he slices it, it's still baloney.)
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To: rabscuttle385

It seems that all the big-shots in the Republican hierarchy are frothing at the mouth and screaming at Tea Partiers that we must start loving Mitt. Sadly for Mitt, most aren’t real fond of him. He seems just a little too slick and a little too eager to get along with Democrats. Sure, he’d be a huge improvement over Obama, but so would your halfwit Uncle Fred.


29 posted on 10/15/2011 3:55:28 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney’s rise? Is this satire? Has he ever risen above 25% or whatever number he was at when he declared? I sure haven’t seen a rise. I’ve seen attempted coronation but no rise.


30 posted on 10/15/2011 4:06:39 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: vekzen
You are so right on the money with every word you said. Agree 100%. I was originally supporting Perry, but after the illegal immigration debacle, forget it. And this is coming from me, an American of Cuban decent.

As far as I'm concerned, build a fence, dig a trench and fill them with a bunch of alligators (sorry if anyone thinks I'm insensitive), shut down the Cuban dry foot, wet foot crap. This country is going down the drain with the amount of money we spend on illegals health care, education, etc.
If you can't get here legally like I did with my family, then that's too bad.

Looking around at the hippies on Wall Street, we have enough problems trying to take back our beautiful country from these fools, let alone also taking on the illegals.

31 posted on 10/15/2011 5:36:00 PM PDT by rep-always
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