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Meet the Press: CAIN + Jindal(for Perry) vs. Pawlenty (for Romney)
NBC ^ | Oct 16, 2011 | David Gregory

Posted on 10/16/2011 1:18:26 PM PDT by Clairity

You can watch the full video, or separately the interview with Cain or the Debate between Jindal (for Perry) and Pawlenty (for Romney)

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; cronycapital4perry; jindal; meetthepress; perry; romenyperry2012; romney; romneybotattack
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1 posted on 10/16/2011 1:18:31 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: shield

Perry ping


2 posted on 10/16/2011 1:18:55 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity
How about this. Quit making up your own headlines in a vain attempt to smear Cain?

How about you stop desperately trying to smear the other candidates and make a case FOR your candidate for a change?

3 posted on 10/16/2011 1:23:32 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Clairity

At the same link, when the video is playing, you can click on “transcript” and read it too.


4 posted on 10/16/2011 1:24:41 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: MNJohnnie

Would be nice if Perry could make the case for himself. So far he is zero for three in an unfriendly environment.


5 posted on 10/16/2011 1:25:37 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: MNJohnnie

I had the actual title “Meet the Press” the rest was informational.

You are being beyond ludicrous: “Quit making up your own headlines in a vain attempt to smear Cain? “

How is posting a link to the video and transcript of an interview with Cain, so people can hear him in his own words “SMEAR”?


6 posted on 10/16/2011 1:27:54 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

Wow, that makes it useful for me! Someone has thought about deaf folks.


7 posted on 10/16/2011 1:28:00 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: onyx; TheConservativeParty; NoGrayZone; BenKenobi; Kartographer; MNJohnnie; PhilDragoo; ...

Ping for the Cain Train Pinglist!

FReep Me if you want to be added!


8 posted on 10/16/2011 1:28:43 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Clairity

It’s hard to believe you Perry people are really this delusional. Cain knocked this interview out of the park.


9 posted on 10/16/2011 1:30:09 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: MNJohnnie
I just watched Cain's "electrified fence" speech. He lied. That was not a joke. He was serious when he said it. It actually was very inspiring because he went on to say "Oh Mr.Cain, that's insensitive, NO! what's insensitive is our people dying and that mess gotta stop!"

You will give Cain a pass because you are also a fraud and dishonest with yourself.

10 posted on 10/16/2011 1:35:26 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Clairity
Why not simply use the headline on the website? That is the SOP for Freeper.
11 posted on 10/16/2011 1:35:50 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: normy
How about this Perrybots? How about you drop the smear attack campaign postings and try making a case for your candidate for once?

Odd how the Perrybots and the Romneybots are using the exact same campaign tactics. The never ever make a case FOR their candidate, they merely slander and lie about all the other ones.

So which campaign are you Perrybots actually working for?

12 posted on 10/16/2011 1:38:01 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
By the way, I get updates from "Stand with Arizona against illegal immigration" and the first update was bold headlines "Cain calls for electrified fence" the later today a new one came out "Cain says fence was a joke"

Do you think that is gonna fly? If Cain breaks the 30% mark I will be surprised. I expect Perry to be back in the high teens by the end of the week. Cain's blocking for Mitt is coming to an end.

13 posted on 10/16/2011 1:40:36 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: MNJohnnie
There is no smear. It's called vetting a candidate. Your people have painted Perry as a rapist, a porno loving homosexual and for things he has never said he was for. That is smearing.

I got it MNJohnnie, your girls Bachmann and Palin stiffed you and it's all Rick Perry's fault. Bachmann was gonna be the one and Perry swaggered on the scene but but Palin is gonna enter the fray and she'll make it all better but then she left you at the alter and now Cain is gonna get even with mean ol Rick Perry.

It ain't happening! When Palin endorses Perry your freaking head is going to explode.

Your best bet would be to watch Perry's speech in PA, support Cain if you must but leave yourself a way back to the Perry camp because in the end, he'll be the one taking on Romney....wait...he still is the only one taking on Romney. Interesting.

14 posted on 10/16/2011 1:45:59 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I agree1 Good interview with a crappy liberal interviewer.

One thing that I give credit to is Cain’s willingness to take on the libs without shame. I couldn’t believe that he went on the View!


15 posted on 10/16/2011 1:46:35 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: normy

You are a liar. Cain has used that ‘electrified fence’ line in MANY speeches over the months. It’s the SAME joke that Freepers do all the friggin’ time. “alligators in the moat...”

Liberals have no sense of humor.

Perrywinkles have no sense of humor.

Perrywinkles must be liberals... or RINO Romney supporters.


16 posted on 10/16/2011 1:48:53 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: normy

Perry is dead in the water.


17 posted on 10/16/2011 1:49:50 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Clairity

I have no dog in this Perry / Cain fight as I support Newt,for now, but after watching this vid can anyone feel comfortable with Mr. Cain at the helm of our foreign and military policy? He once again brings up this group of experts, and has nothing substantive to say about what he would do in A’stan, Iran, Iraq et al.


18 posted on 10/16/2011 1:50:32 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: normy

A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney.But that’s okay, since he blew his shot.


19 posted on 10/16/2011 1:52:18 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: Marie
I saw the speech. Stand with Arizona against illegal immigration didn't think it was a joke either, they sent out a release touting the damn thing. I will check to see how many times he's used the electrified fence remark in his previous speeches and see who is lying.
20 posted on 10/16/2011 1:54:59 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Perry is between 9 and 16 percent in the latest polls. Cain has just jumped up there in the last two weeks but has yet to reach where Perry was in his first few weeks. He is now being vetted. We will see if he sustains it. He is a very motivational speaker, that is for sure.


21 posted on 10/16/2011 1:58:38 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

We don’t care about the Cain interview. Meet the Press also had a debate between Jindal (for Perry campaign) and Pawlenty (for Romney campaign).

Go to the link and watch the video.


22 posted on 10/16/2011 1:59:44 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Marie
Perry is dead in the water.

Or something similar.


23 posted on 10/16/2011 2:01:21 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: xkaydet65

Then by your logic, you just shoot from the lip and then call in the people who are tasked with the job to tell you where you messed up? Geez, that’s about as smart as Newt’s Scuzzyfava (sp) elitist support of a liberal candidate, just because she put an R next to her name? Then to make natters worse, berate those of us who called him on it as not being smart enough to understand. BTW, how is that Pelosi Global Warming scene setting with you?


24 posted on 10/16/2011 2:02:32 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Clairity

Thanks for the video link, but next time save yourself some grief and just post the legit headline and let everyone decide what they think.


25 posted on 10/16/2011 2:02:51 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: lonevoice

Yes We Cain! Cain is fearless in front of the liberal media. He handles himself with great dignity and strength in this interview.


26 posted on 10/16/2011 2:03:56 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: MNJohnnie

How is it a smear attack to post a link to the interview this morning? I haven’t even seen it, but can’t Cain speak for himself? Cainbots are getting a little paranoid.


27 posted on 10/16/2011 2:07:17 PM PDT by independent in tx
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To: normy

Here’s one example from last friggin’ MAY.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2793387/posts

I found that after less than ten minutes of research and that wasn’t the first time that I’ve heard Cain say it.

Now who’s lying?


28 posted on 10/16/2011 2:07:52 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: MNJohnnie
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29 posted on 10/16/2011 2:13:35 PM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: normy

Cain being serious on the border:
(agrees with sheriff arpaio)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj4-I4uWNhw

Cain joking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxUXfXwKgcs

Cain joking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC4RkZlk-Hk

Cain serious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC4RkZlk-Hk

Cain joking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiO2VjbDLaA

Cain serious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QnWvYi6zc

Cain serious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYN0XZcqOGA


30 posted on 10/16/2011 2:15:06 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

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IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

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31 posted on 10/16/2011 2:16:09 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Marie

A humorous quote from your link, Marie...

“And if they can get over that fence and that electric barbed wire, I’ll give them a job at Godfather’s!”-Herman Cain

Another quote from a debate...

“I would bring a sense of humor because America is too uptight.”-Herman Cain


32 posted on 10/16/2011 2:18:14 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Marie
That is not what he said in his speech. Yes that sounds like a joke. What he said does not and that is why it drew attention from the media and from anti-illegal immigration groups of which I belong. They thought he was serious.

he didn't mention moats or alligators.

33 posted on 10/16/2011 2:19:39 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

Cain being serious on the border:
(agrees with sheriff arpaio)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj4-I4uWNhw

Cain joking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxUXfXwKgcs

Cain joking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC4RkZlk-Hk

Cain serious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC4RkZlk-Hk

Cain joking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiO2VjbDLaA

Cain serious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5QnWvYi6zc

Cain serious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYN0XZcqOGA


34 posted on 10/16/2011 2:25:20 PM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: Marie
So an electrified fence is a joke? Ok I accept that. Is a fence a joke too? Will the fence be a full 2000 mile fence or like Perry has touted for years, strategic fencing with Predator drones and National Guard.

The only one I know who said they want a full fence is Bachmann. Did Cain or is he just joking his way around the speech circuit?

35 posted on 10/16/2011 2:25:38 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: shield
[snip]

David Gregory: “Would you deport illegal immigrants in the country right now?”

Herman Cain: “Here is my approach to illegal immigration. Here again, this is what’s resonating with the people. How I would solve the problem. It’s not as simple as, would you deport. We must secure the border. It would be a combination of a physical fence, technology and in some areas we might have to put troops there. We must secure the border. Secondly we must promote the path to citizenship that’s already there. We need to clean up the bureaucracy. Third enforce the laws that are already there. The way you do that is number four, which is a bold idea – empower the states to do what the federal government can’t do and won’t do as far as dealing with illegals that are in the United States today.”

[snip]

Gregory: “Why you and not Mitt Romney?”

”Why me and not Mitt Romney? Mitt Romney is a great businessman. I have a lot of respect for him. He has been more of a Wall Street executive. I have been more of a Main Street executive.”

Meet the Press – October 16, 2011 Aprox 25 minute video

36 posted on 10/16/2011 2:32:17 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Marie

SO he’s a laugh machine?


37 posted on 10/16/2011 2:34:08 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Herman Cain: “Here is my approach to illegal immigration. Here again, this is what’s resonating with the people. How I would solve the problem. It’s not as simple as, would you deport. We must secure the border. It would be a combination of a physical fence, technology and in some areas we might have to put troops there. We must secure the border. Secondly we must promote the path to citizenship that’s already there. We need to clean up the bureaucracy. Third enforce the laws that are already there. The way you do that is number four, which is a bold idea – empower the states to do what the federal government can’t do and won’t do as far as dealing with illegals that are in the United States today.” “

Isn’t this EXACTLY Perry’s view?


38 posted on 10/16/2011 2:41:45 PM PDT by independent in tx
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I noticed Cain is now parroting PERRY!
39 posted on 10/16/2011 3:00:25 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Marie; normy
You are a liar. Cain has used that ‘electrified fence’ line in MANY speeches over the months. It’s the SAME joke that Freepers do all the friggin’ time. “alligators in the moat...”

WE are not running for President of the United States.

This is a security issue not a joke, CAIN is running for the nomination, there is a difference.

40 posted on 10/16/2011 3:07:34 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Clairity

ping for later.....


41 posted on 10/16/2011 3:17:49 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: independent in tx
His “empowering the states” line is a cop out to avoid really getting on record on some meaty issues. He side stepped the deportation issue and I don't blame him, now he wants to put the onus on the states to do the Feds job? Why not give a real plan of how he will do the Feds job. Because he really doesn't have a plan and if he goes on record to match his rhetoric he will have to stand by it. He would rather make speeches and hope no one notices the game he's playing.Perry has 5 million a month to spend and that is without getting any new donations. Perry aint going anywhere.
42 posted on 10/16/2011 3:55:03 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yeah Mitt's fullback for sure.

he wont go on record for a full border fence or for deportation and he wants to pass the burden the Feds should be carrying to the statse to "do what the federal government can’t do and won’t do as far as dealing with illegals that are in the United States today.”

Hey Cain why dont you give them in state tuition so they can be productive citizens or at least their children of whom the states have been paying for for years to educate anyway. Since you wont deport or are you gonna pass deportation to the states?

43 posted on 10/16/2011 4:00:33 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
”Why me and not Mitt Romney? Mitt Romney is a great businessman. I have a lot of respect for him. He has been more of a Wall Street executive. I have been more of a Main Street executive.”

And Rick Perry has been the Executive of the most successful state in the Union since the Obama recession.

44 posted on 10/16/2011 4:02:18 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: mazda77

If you watched Mr.Cain’s responses on foreign issues and you’re okay with them then we have differences far too large to solve here. I expect a candidate to know what “right of return” is. To know the underlying ideas of neocons so he can understand their strengths and flaws. I don’t expect him to admit to being unfsmiliar with the term. I expect a candidate who is asking for my vote to have an understanding of the wars in which we are engaged and some framework of ideas on how he will deal with them. Mr. Cain has not demonstrated that he has any plan to deal with the world. We elected one POTUS who had no experience or even concept of statecraft, I don’t think, with the world falling apart, that we can afford to elect another.


45 posted on 10/16/2011 4:17:02 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: normy

What do you think about Jindal?


46 posted on 10/16/2011 4:23:09 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: xkaydet65
[Cain] once again brings up this group of experts, and has nothing substantive to say about what he would do in A’stan, Iran, Iraq et al.

I think it's great to have a candidate who is honest for a change, and doesn't bluff you into thinking he already has an answer for everything. Cain doesn't have access to the info a President would have to have before making decisions. When decisions are made rashly, you get disasters like WW1, or the Iraq invasion. As a former business executive, he knows you have to have briefings and work together with others.

When Perry was asked about Pakistan, he wandered off into irrelevant trivia about how India was our friend, etc. All bluster and blowing smoke.

47 posted on 10/16/2011 4:30:09 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: TexMom7
I love Bobby J. he's taking on a very corrupt state, my brother lives there. He used to be considered a great guy around Free Republic until he backed Perry and now I guess he's a Rino too, but hey I heard some on FR say Jim Demint’s a Rino and when Palin endorses Perry, she'll be a Rino too.
48 posted on 10/16/2011 4:30:45 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: xkaydet65

Because he doesn’t know that now, what does it do to change anything having to do with it today? Nothing. In the military, a commander who thinks he knows everything or worse professes to, is more dangerous to his troops than the enemy. Any officer is only as good as his senior NCO’s.

I earned my position in my trade not because I could memorize a book three semesters before I intended to take the class. In some cases I did not take the class but Cleped it instead. I categorized what I needed to remember to quickly find an answer to a question. I don’t consider myself as “smart” but instead rely on my “smart books” to catalog the knowledge I need when I need it. And yes, even at 3:00 AM.


49 posted on 10/16/2011 4:33:47 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: normy

Immigration is not one of Cain’s strong areas. He only rates a C- from NumbersUSA. Michele Bachmann is the champion there, with a B-. But people seem to have deserted Bachmann; Perry’s candidacy served its purpose for the Establishment in that regard: divide the conservative vote with a faux conservative candidate.


50 posted on 10/16/2011 4:34:47 PM PDT by hellbender
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