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To: Def Conservative

Cain has yet to explain SS and Medicare and Obamacare under his plan.


2 posted on 10/18/2011 2:59:50 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Not that we shouldn’t analyze the 999 plan, but he has positions on other issues. Let’s not chew up one of our own. 999 isn’t law yet
. Hell, the guy hasn’t even been elected yet. His ideas can be tweaked.


5 posted on 10/18/2011 3:04:20 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Sacajaweau

“Cain has yet to explain SS and Medicare and Obamacare under his plan.”

Yes he has. They’re thrown into the general fund, RIGHT WHERE THEY BELONG. They’re financed through 999 (i.e., their payroll taxes end).

Now this part is my speculation, but one in the general fund, they can be treated like welfare and we can stop dishing out money we don’t have to people like Bill Gates.


17 posted on 10/18/2011 3:34:07 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: Sacajaweau

You mean to you personally? Otherwise you could just pay attention.

Besides it will never pass, it won’t work, the people hate it, Perry is better. It will just make people vote for Obama, and Mitt will have to save us.

Who cares, you will have a choice between a t¥rd sandwich on rye, or sourdough, and like it.

If you really care about our country you will abandon the establishment republicans, for they have long ago sould their soul, they drove up the debt when they had control of both houses and the presidency. What did they fix?


22 posted on 10/18/2011 3:42:50 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will write in Palin. We can not save the Republic by electing those who plan to destroy it.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Cain has yet to explain SS and Medicare and Obamacare under his plan.”

I’m aboard the Cain train yet, but I have one foot on the platform.

You might learn about some of his conservative principles:

http://www.hermancain.com/the-issues

Repeal and Replace Health Care “Deform”

President Obama and the liberals in Congress have dismantled the free market health care system and replaced it with health care “deform.” They have passed measures that compromise the sacred patient-doctor relationship, eliminate patient choice, stick a bureaucrat in the examining room, ration care and do nothing to limit frivolous lawsuits that drive up the cost of health care. In all of these provisions, they made health care more expensive and less accessible for American families they claimed to protect.

Under the guise of making health care a “right” for all people, President Obama and the liberals in Congress instead extended the tentacles of government, expanding their control and diminishing patients’ rights. They have also made it more difficult and more expensive for doctors to practice medicine, including specialized practitioners who are desperately needed to save lives. In reality, their attempts at reforming the system have actually deformed it.

The majority of Americans agree: it’s time to repeal and replace Obamacare with patient-centered, free market reforms. It’s time to institute legitimate tort reforms that let doctors practice medicine without fear of frivolous lawsuits. Loser pay laws would be a great start! That is, require those who lose frivolous lawsuits to pay the legal expenses of those found not guilty. Additionally, loosening the restrictions on Health Savings Accounts would help to empower Americans to save and invest their own money to expand their options for health care.

Let’s level the playing field under the current tax code and allow the deductibility of health insurance premiums regardless of whether they are purchased by the employer or the employee. That would help shift ownership of one’s health care back to where it belongs, the individual. Patient-centered free market health care reforms have already been developed and introduced in Congress, but they are stuck in committee and they can’t get out. With the right leadership we can get them out and get them passed.

Modernize Social Programs

Big government enthusiasts designed social programs to provide a financial safety net, but, in turn, dependency on the government for the most vulnerable in society became an expected entitlement. Decades since their inception, far too many Americans have shifted their expectations from government assistance to entitlement. Too many people have exchanged their freedom for a false sense of security that these programs are supposed to provide.

Unfortunately, this has not only been to the sociological detriment of America, but also to its economic detriment. Simply, ever-expanding social programs are compromising the current and future financial stability of this great country. According to a May 2009 article in Newsweek, current projections indicate that Medicare will go bankrupt by 2017 and Social Security will bottom out by 2037. These figures are advanced from 2008’s estimates, which forecasted Medicare’s bankruptcy to occur in 2019 and 2041 for Social Security. The situation will continue to worsen if we do not do something differently.

For the generations or workers who have paid into Social Security and Medicare, the federal government’s inevitable failure to pay them as they retire is undeniably stealing. These are generations who have worked and sacrificed to leave this country a better place for their children and grand children as they retire. The current behavior of an out of control federal government does little to ease their minds.

The federal government has imposed expensive and often counter-productive social and welfare programs on the states and the people. It is time to admit the mistakes, and get the federal government out of the way. This will allow states, cities, churches, charities and businesses to offer a helping hand instead of a handout where they live. People closest to the problems are the best ones to solve the problems effectively.

We can fulfill our responsibility to our golden age citizens and future retirees by empowering them instead of restricting them.


28 posted on 10/18/2011 3:59:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I am not gung ho on Cain’s 999 plan. Cut spending, cut taxes, no aid to illegals..period, get out of the UN, get rid of the EPA, less regulations on business (some are needed) anyone on unemployment should go back to school for training OR do community service work and that goes for welfare recipients too, repeal Obamacare, drill for oil (jobs) utilize coal and liquified coal should be looked into a lot more and cut foreign aid. That is what I want in a candidate. One thing that troubles me about Cain is he had the backing of RAINBOW PUSH COALITION and Beasley when he ran for senate in Georgia and the church sends up red flags


32 posted on 10/18/2011 4:25:20 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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