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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My debate reaction, reposted. (Romney won, Perry stinks, Cain lost the 9-9-9 argument, Bachmann and Santorum still there, Newt is Newt):

Still going through the debate. Everytime Romney is attacked on an issue I see him counterpunching and defending himself very effectively. On health care, Santorum attacked him, but he held his ground, refuted some points, and then sequeways into the need to repeal Obamacare and ends up with a solid applause line.

Newt then attacks him on health care. He seems to be doing a very effective job of criticizing Romney both on pragmatism and principle. But then Romney gets Newt to affirm that, as a member of the Heritage Foundation, he at one time advocated for an individual mandate. Newt's left looking foolish, and Romney is still commanding the debate.

Perry remains ineffectively slow, inarticulate and clumsy put up against pretty much anyone else on the stage. I continue to fast forward over most of Michelle Bachmann.

I didn't think Cain's defense of 9-9-9 was very effective. Apples and Oranges. Read OUR analysis. I think Newt effectively summarized the political problems with the concept. He did it magnanimously, but the bottom line was shitcan 9-9-9.

Ron Paul is not a commanding speaker, with his sing-song pitch, and unpolished delivery. But sometimes his 100 proof libertarianism is a welcome thing. Like his answer on the tax question. He also lambasted 9-9-9, but then gave a good quick talk about how SPENDING is the source of our woes.


3 posted on 10/19/2011 9:03:15 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: Huck; Cincinatus' Wife

i like your analysis. seems accurate.

...but i’m still surprised, that all the Perry “conservatives” keep posting liberal media articles that are pro-Perry.

“So if a winner must be crowned, make it Rick Perry,”
from the LA Times (posted minutes ago also by Cincinatus’ Wife), and recent articles praising or defending Perry.
like the Daily Caller story, and the ABC story of Perry “agreeing” with his wife, he is being “brutalized” because of his religion.

...personally, i’ll vote for the Republican who the liberal media praises LEAST.
doesn’t even the Perry pack, wonder why the libs like Perry?
and Perry has dropped tremendously in polls, especially for true conservative Tea party people...
yet Perry is TOPS in fund-raising.

don’t they wonder, if the Tea Pary is rejecting Perry,
WHO are the people paying all the money who want Perry in control ?

don’t they have ANY curiosity?


16 posted on 10/19/2011 9:27:54 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Huck
Hoping for Cain at the top of the ticket, so my opinion below can be read with that bias in mind...

I didn't get to see the last part of the debate, but from what I did see, I don't see how Romney is the winner. He came across as defensive and flustered several times, even sounding like a bullied child asking Anderson Cooper to help him. Pathetic.

Cain could have done better and it sounds like I missed the 9-9-9 zingers. Up until then, I thought he did alright, but not great.

Perry seems like he's all over the place to me. I also found it ironic and stupid to even bring up the term "illegal immigrant" in an attack on Romney, given the in-state tuition millstone around his neck.

Bachman - I have never liked her or thought she was a viable candidate. I'm admittedly biased, so don't take anything she says seriously.

Santorum made me laugh with his attacks on Romney. Personally, I liked how he shut him down on Romneycare and mocked that he was out of time. I don't think he's Presidential material, but it was fun to watch.

Newt definitely comes across as one of the two adults in the room, Cain being the other. But he does so with some serious experience and calm. I liked his responses, but have no idea where he fits. He's from a different era, so don't know how that plays. Seems like a great VP or administration pick.

Ron Paul - who? Get off the stage you loon!

Romney - This guy seems to have gotten slimier since we last saw him in 2008, if that's possible. He looks like a weasel to me and sounds like a Mommy's boy crying, "it's my turn now!" I seriously hope he is not the nominee. Just like Obama to me, I cannot even stand to listen to him speak.

17 posted on 10/19/2011 9:28:56 AM PDT by FightforFreedomCA (On the Cain Train to railroad Mitt.)
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To: Huck

It does seem that Romney is the best debater of all the candidates.I don’t think all of the facts about the 999 plan have been articulated by Cain but I like his boldness in presenting something that should be discussed. I liked Perry when he first announced but I have since concluded that his debating skills are so poor that Obama would make him out to be mincemeat.The 999 plan may be too difficult a concept to sell to the American people to understand.


18 posted on 10/19/2011 9:36:16 AM PDT by richmulv
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To: Huck
....Everytime Romney is attacked on an issue I see him counterpunching and defending himself very effectively.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Mitt presents himself as, "I am the chosen one and I can lie until I'm caught, I can lie about you with a smile, and why do I have to put up with you losers? elite, entitled snob." imho

20 posted on 10/19/2011 9:41:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Huck
I disagree. I thought Perry had a bad point on the illegal grass cutters but he got his soundbite out of Mitt (I am running for President, I can't have illegals mowing my grass) and it seemed he made a pretty convincing point on Cain's plan that caused Romney to even agree.

i saw Cain and Romney back track on the border fence and instead took weaker and less well thought out versions of Perry's plan.

I also thought Perry won the energy debate with everyone having to agree with him.

Paul was awesome until he went senile at the end.

Romney actually lied twice about Perry and his Texas jobs numbers.

I think Perry needs to do better at rebutting but Perry did good.

40 posted on 10/19/2011 10:48:00 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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