Posted on 10/19/2011 11:05:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
And also, everyone in Texas including illegals pay taxes because we have a sales tax here but no income tax.
So, everyone in Texas pays taxes when they purchase most anything except food and Bibles. Legal, illegal, immigrant, Texas natives, Texas move-in or anyone visiting from anywhere.
Yeah but illegals dont always pay federal taxes and Texas receives tons of federal dollars which they then can use for illegals...Second an education is a magnet and college is not required by the USSC.
But we also have to consider the differences in pre-tax prices. To carry on your example:
The foreign TV sells for $100, or an ‘after-tax’ cost of $109. If the US TV sells for $150, the ‘after-tax’ cost just went to $163.50.
Assuming the US maker had a $25 profit (17%) in that $150 TV, that company could lower its price to $141.50 and get the same after-tax benefit as the pre-999 plan of $150. (assuming 40% of the $25 profit less the new 9% rate). The ‘after-tax’ cost of that US TV is now $154.24 —still considerably higher than the foreign TV’s after tax price of $109.
Sorry, please see handle. Some say it’s a 12-step process, but I cannot help myself at times. :-)
No sales tax on Bibles? Interesting. Is that only Christian bibles or does it include other holy books like the Torah?
Well obviously it depends on just how big the present cost difference is between the domestic and the foreign manufacturer compared to the benefit of the tax plan.
I was going to make a comment on your handle when you seemed to deny that there was any benefit at all in favor of domestic manufacturers by changing over to the Cain tax plan but didn’t.
Anything that improves the environment for domestic manufacturing helps. Companies and industries will be at different points on the cost curve relative to foreign competitors. For some it might make the difference, for others, not enough.
And of course we shouldn’t only be fixing the tax code. We need to also lower regulations and weaken the power of unions and fix trade abuses among other things to help US industry.
I certainly agree with this statement which is one of the reasons I like Perry --he has a long, solid track record of fighting the EPA.
As for the example, in my weakness, I even went an 'ran the math' with a US TV originally priced at $110. The number comes out to $113 vs. $109 on the foreign so yes, depending on the scale there might be a shift. I am just not sure it would be significant enough to bring industry here. It seems that the two products would have to be really competitively-priced (w/i 5%-10%) for the taxes to make a difference.
Texas is a Donor State. We pay more in Federal Taxes than what we received back.
So you support the continued existence of the progressive income tax, a central plank of the Communist Manifesto?
How long would you take to ultimately eliminate it?
Sorry, color me extreme. Abolishing the Tyrannical income tax would disrupt the economy: it would usher in an era of unprecedented economic growth, opportunity, and prosperity, and make people more Free, coincidentally.
The sooner the income tax is eliminated altogether, the better. And as far as being responsible for our problems, it is a huge negative burden on the middle class, affecting exactly those people who are responsible for most of the hard work, job creation and entrepreneurship which occurs in this country. Its harmful effects can hardly be overstated.
how about shipping?
(from the article you linked)
“But by 2011, when stimulus funds dry up, she speculated that Texas will revert to being a “donor state.”
You make a very good point, magritte! This is a tough job - a tough job to get the nomination, then a tough job to get elected, and then an even tougher job to be The President of The United States of America. It will take an experienced boy playing his (or her) best game of all.
PS, the “musical score”... are you a musician? We are a musical family but also Christians, so we combine them and watch for how God “orchestrates” life to create a beautiful masterpiece when all the parts come together. Sometimes you don’t see it all coming into place and then one day you look around and see the Great Composer has created something beautiful.
Looking forward to see what God is doing now to get us to where HE wants us to go in this nomination and election, and the good thing is, no matter what, He’s got the pencil to write the score!
Hey there, jla! What a fun day! And Romney had a bad night, and worse day with his bad ad taken down. Not bad for a tenant farmer’s kid, eh?
It has to do with the fact that they are being rewarded for illegal activity. I’m not sure why the Perrygasmics are having trouble with this concept. Perhaps if I explain it another way it might make sense. Imagine you (owner A) are part owner of a vast apartment complex. Another part owner (owner B) decides to rent out one of the units for much less than the going rate, exactly equal to owner B’s part of the rent, not sending any to the other owners. Is it any wonder that owner A wants nothing to do with owner B?
I think that actual issue is easier to understand than your analogy. Owner A is supposed to be upset because Owner B decides to rent out his units cheaper?
I understand the issues with illegals. We hate that there are illegals here. We hate that the federal government refuses to send them back, is not doing their job. We hate that the government forces states to educate the illegal children of illegal immigrants in our schools for 12 years.
And we hate that when they graduate, the federal government doesn’t kick them out, but lets them stay here in our country, and get jobs, and earn a living.
What you need to understand about those on the other side of the issue from you is that nothing Texas does about college tuition will make ANY difference on those things we all wish were different.
Texas has these kids. They are here, they aren’t going away. They are educated, americanized, and living in Texas. They are smart enough to go to college. If they lived in Mexico and applied for college, they’d get accepted, and get student visas and be here legally.
But they are already here, in Texas. If they don’t go to college, they will take low-wage jobs in the state, or become delinquents, and I guess if they commit a serious crime the feds might deport them after the fact. So Texans, for whatever reason, decided they would rather help those kids get educated. They aren’t doing it with your money. They aren’t sending illegals into your state. They aren’t taking your jobs. Heck, they aren’t really even giving Texas tax dollars to them.
IN exchange, Texas gets a higher-educated class of illegals, they get extra tuition money to help run their colleges, they get illegals off the streets for 4 years. Maybe some Texans get to feel good about helping children to live happier and more productive lives regardless of what country they were born in.
After all, Americans are not looking to deny kids from other countries a great education. We wish all children could reach their full potential — just some of us wish they would do it in their own countries, or come here legally.
To these people who oppose your view, they don’t understand why you think you should dictate to them what they do with their own money. They don’t understand why you would sentence smart, americanized 18-year-olds to a life less productive than they are capable of, just because you are upset at the federal government for not handling the illegal problem. They see children, illegal through no fault of their own, who want what every human wants — a fulfilling life of acheivement to their greatest potential.
Since they see no value in your plan to deny them this education, and they see it costs you nothing, but you want to make THEM stop supporting it, they may think you are being unreasonable.
Me? I could care less what Texas does. I opposed this in Virginia, where I live. I certainly wouldn’t reject a good candidate for President for a reason as stupid and trivial as this.
I might not reject an otherwise good candidate for this if it were the sole troubling issue. However, we are talking about Perry here, and not this proverbial good candidate.
Yah. As the longest serving Governor of one of the largest States, he'd have been way too busy to give much thought to needed changes to our tax code.
I guess you don't need to have ideas before you run for the office of POTUS.
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