Posted on 10/20/2011 6:43:41 AM PDT by dangus
I think he’s talking about putting the baby up for adoption versus raising the baby.
Our nation must protect life.
Did you read the transcript? Show the part of the transcript that supports what you have posted about Cain's views on abortion.
I hope the sickness of the perrywinkles and the head up willards rear is not catching.
“No, it comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.”
I had a baby when I was a teenager. My sister took me get an abortion, but I had hid the baby for so long that they could not perform the abortion. Thank God! I had a beautiful baby girl and gave her up for adoption in 1979. I was 16 years old. It was the best decision I ever made. I found her in 2002. I now have a daughter, a son-in-law and 2 grandsons.
You see after I gave her up for adoption, I finished school, went on later to get married and tried for 10 years to have a family. I had an ectopic pregnancy in 1991 and another one in 1997. So, the daughter I did not abort, is my only living child. The other two are waiting for me in heaven.
You see, the truth is, the only acceptable reason for terminating a pregnancy is if the mother is going to die and the baby too!
The doctors told me that if they didn’t remove my baby both times from my fallopian tube, then it would burst and I would bleed to death, and both me and my baby would die. So, I had no choice. I will have to say, I thought about dying with my baby because I loved my baby so much. But my family needed me and I knew somewhere out there, my daughter would need me someday too!
Adoption is the answer to an unplanned pregnancy.
Did not God adopt all of us who believe into His wonderful Jesus?
Tearing down Perry to prop up Cain is not the answer. I like both. There’s nothing wrong with vetting Cain’s opinions. I happen to like what he says.
It is not the babies fault and there are so many people wanting babies..
You weren't supposed to actually read what he said. You were supposed to just read the headline.
I’m just replying with common sense. The left will hysterically claim that he’s going to ban it. He can’t do that. He’s just stating his belief.
If you read the transcript carefully Piers is asking Cain if they would RAISE the baby. In Cain’s mind he’s thinking maybe we would raise the baby, maybe put him/her up for adoption. That would depend on the family’s decision.
Here read this from HUFFPO: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/herman-cain-abortion-planned-parenthood-2004-campaign_n_996631.html
He seems pretty darn pro-life, folks!
MORGAN: Are you honestly saying -- again, it's a tricky question, I know.
CAIN: Ask the tricky question.
MORGAN: But you've had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?
CAIN: You're mixing two things here, Piers?
MORGAN: Why?
CAIN: You're mixing --
MORGAN: That's what it comes down to.
CAIN: No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.
Cain clearly states that morgan is mixing two issues, one being abortion, and the other being the issue of a rape victim raising a child born of rape or incest. On the LATTER he says that is up to the family i.e. whether or not to RAISE the child, not whether or not to abort it.
This is consistent with what Cain has state previously about abortion.
Agree w what you said. Most conservatives know that Muslims kill the adult victims of rape, and most also know that here we often kill the littlest victims of rape—the babies. Like you, however, I had never seen the comparison made so starkly before. It’s a very compelling and powerful image.
I wouldn’t ban abortion except in cases of Democrats
Look at his recent answer to Stossel. There he clearly said that in the case of rape that it should be the woman’s choice.
Yes, he also said it shouldn’t. But I’m getting used to cutting through his double talk (e.g., naming Muslims to his cabinet, releasing hundreds of terrorists in exchange for one American prisoner).
And don't forget, the baby is still half the mother's. Maybe we could consider a Solomonic approach and abort the father's half?
I have to ask: what was Morgan mixing? What Cain doesn’t sound like he’s certain is how to address this question, and reflexively, he starts trotting out language he’s heard before.
“it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision.”
“it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.”
Neither of these comments fits the point he was making that a child’s origins in rape and incest aren’t reasons to kill a child. They’re pro-choice language. That doesn’t mean he’s pro-choice, and I’m NOT saying he is personally or politically pro-choice. But I don’t think these sound like answers coming from a conservative with a strong ability to enunciate his view of abortion. Obviously, he has taken a strong stance on abortion prior to the question that threw him off. But he was thrown by a variation on the Kitty Dukakis stumper, and I don’t think this indicates that Cain is going to be great in debates without serious effort—effort he doesn’t seem interested in making.
I think he relies on his prior work on the radio to have prepared him for this kind of question, and it didn’t, since so many callers already agreed with him. And he has expressed disdain for the debate process with his comments regarding the other candidates “getting on his last nerve.” What is the process for if it’s not to get on his nerves, to winnow out the details of each candidate’s positions and resumes? What are these meetings for if they are not intended to get each candidate to expose his abilities and interests through pressure? You would think that Cain, having been exposed repeatedly through the Boortz show to this kind of discussion, would be more patient, more able, and less obviously annoyed. But he comes across as someone who wouldn’t be bothered if he could avoid this distasteful stuff, both at the debates and when being questioned by the press.
And what power would he have as president to make this personal principle law? I think that the answer to that makes the whole question moot.
I see, you now you bring up a different interview, without a link or transcript, to support your previous out of context, and very unfair, slam on Cain.
“In case of rape or incest” is simply the left’s way of deflecting the argument away from the 90% of abortions done for birth control or convenience.
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