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ATF Ignored Death Threats, Tried to Frame Whistleblower Agent to Cover Corruption
Townhall.com ^ | October 21, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/21/2011 6:34:56 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/21/2011 6:34:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

ATF...eating their own.


2 posted on 10/21/2011 6:38:42 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Kaslin

I have no words to describe what I’m feeling at this moment.


3 posted on 10/21/2011 6:41:33 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Kaslin
Throughout the years it has become clear that ATF is more interested in protecting and promoting the corrupt practices of the men who have made careers profiting off of corruption, obstruction of justice and lies, like Newell, rather than rewarding field agents taking out dangerous criminals like ATF Special Agent Jay Dobyns, ATF Operation Fast and Furious Whistleblowers John Dodson, Pete Forcelli, Vince Cefalu and others for their bravery and sacrifice to fight violent crime and for exposing corruption within the agency.

Of course. Bureaucrats like people who will follow orders (no matter how illegal or insane) and do what their seniors want more than they like people who get the "official" job done.

The "official" job is rarely the real job. The real job is to expand the power and budget of the bureaucracy by doing the dirty jobs that their political patrons desire.

4 posted on 10/21/2011 6:46:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Kaslin
It sure seems like the entire federal bureaucracy is totally out of control. It extends past the ATF to the EPA and DOE and probably every other agency. We have to get a handle on this it is outrageous.
5 posted on 10/21/2011 6:49:58 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: Bigun

About thirty years ago I read an add in the pennysaver, “learn to fly cheap”.
I called and it was a young man who’d just graduated Emery Riddle and offered to teach cheaply.
I met him at the local donut shop on a Saturday and after talking a few hours we went to Stuart Airport and went flying over to Indiantown airport.
A most perfect privately owned airstrip with a crumbling trailer for an office. I went in for a coke and there was a poster there labeled the Ten Biggest lies in Aviation.
#1, Hi, I’m from the gub mint and I’m here to help.
Got my ticket and have been avoiding F.A.A. and any other gub mint types ever since.


6 posted on 10/21/2011 7:01:53 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO ( Real conservative or go fish))
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To: Kaslin
This is corruption on a scale that if it was described in a novel would place the book in the category of science fiction. At the suggestion of a European colleague I just read and finished the Swedish The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo trilogy (English translation). The plot of the second and third books revolves around this kind of government within a government conspiracy and the danger to all who expose it. Where's someone like little Lisbeth Salander or the intrepid Blomquist when you need them?
7 posted on 10/21/2011 7:05:19 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: MestaMachine

The attacks against the rule of law are more and more blatant every day.

The terror in “The Dark Knight” came from people WITHIN THE SYSTEM, who were supposed to be protecting people and seeking justice, engaging in terrorism and crime themselves. The Joker could do anything he wanted simply by getting help from the corrupt people within the system.

We are so there.

Here is the initial post I made on my blog to describe why I decided to speak out on the corruption I had personally observed. The lawlessness that has recently been revealed on Fast & Furious, Solyndra, Light Squared, etc bears out what I said back in January of 2010. If we refuse to address the criminal corruption WITHIN THE SYSTEM - which put Barack Obama into office rather than into jail, and has allowed him & his servants to do all the garbage they’ve done to this country - we will look exactly like Mexico or “The Dark Knight”. In addition, people should realize that the Fast & Furious guns were never equipped with tracking devices; the only way they were EVER going to be “tracked” is AFTER they were found at a murder scene. IOW, these guns were INTENDED to kill, and the people who were INTENDED to use them were, specifically, the druglords who have carried out violence in Juarez and other places. Places where townspeople have fled for safety to the US because their whole town was being massacred. IMHO, Eric Holder wanted to create a “Darfur” on our southern border so that compassionate people would say we HAVE to let these people flee to America. Absorb that. Eric Holder WANTED to create in Mexico the situation from “The Dark Knight”, so we would have an excuse to allow illegals to flee to America, where they could carry out Cloward Piven and destroy capitalism and the American way of life.

Sick, sick, sick.

Here’s what I wrote in January of 2010:

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News reports stated that in Mexico, drug lords killed a rival member and sewed his face onto a soccer ball. The difference between Mexico and The USA is law enforcement. In Mexico law enforcement is sold to the highest bidder. If America ever reaches that point, guard your children because anything can happen to them and you can’t do a thing to stop it.

Obama’s eligibility is and always has been about law enforcement, because our entire system of law enforcement of already-existing laws has utterly failed. This has nothing to do with politics.

It doesn’t much matter whether the guy with his face sewn on the soccer ball was a democrat or republican, or whether he favored or opposed healthcare reform or any other political issue. If there is nobody willing to enforce a law, that law doesn’t exist. Period. Why argue about what laws get made and by whom, if the laws we have are enforced like Mexico’s?

That is the issue here. You can say, as did our Senators a few years ago regarding perjury and obstruction of justice, ”Tee-hee. It’s just about sex. It doesn’t matter.” Or in this case you can say, “The birthers are crazy. Move on.”

The subject of the investigation is irrelevant; the fact that law enforcement refuses to investigate is the issue. When lawless people get control of a system and manipulate what gets enforced, you’ve become Chicago. Or Mexico. Today the subject not being investigated is the violation of open records laws and government cover-up of known forgery. Those crimes have allowed a person into office who has committed extortion (threatening anyone who would report on Obama’s eligibility, as well as lawyers for car dealers) and who violated bankruptcy law to steal money from secured investors and give it to unions instead. For a wider-angle view of his actions so far (with links) see here, here, and here. (I gave up on keeping score after 6 months).

You can laugh at extortion & government cover-ups of forgery and perjury if you think it’s just about – tee-hee – birthers, but I’m telling you right now: If law enforcement doesn’t matter, then welcome to Mexico. I hope your children have a good time kicking your face when they see it sewn onto a soccer ball. Because by refusing to address this you are consigning your children to that kind of world.

Seriously think about “The Dark Knight” – which gave my kids nightmares for weeks. Watch it again so you can clearly remember what lawlessness looks and feels like. If, like me, you would die before willingly handing your kids’ future over to lawlessness, then keep reading at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/


8 posted on 10/21/2011 7:08:27 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Joe Boucher

You are a wise man!

The ATF has been forever a rogue agency. That was true at Waco and, from what I’m seeing, is still true today.


9 posted on 10/21/2011 7:18:06 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: butterdezillion

Very perceptive, butter. Been saying from Day One, it’s a LAW thing, but nobody listened. Seems few are listening even now.
We get no justice. We get entertainment to pacify us so we don’t yell too loudly.


10 posted on 10/21/2011 7:26:49 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for the great post. Incredible work on the Pics.

This goes directly to the top, at 1600 Penn. Ave.

It is TIME! To clean out the rats nest.....


11 posted on 10/21/2011 7:28:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
You're welcome. I only copied and posted the pictures that were included in the article

This goes directly to the top, at 1600 Penn. Ave.

There is no denying it

It is TIME! To clean out the rats nest.....

Bump

12 posted on 10/21/2011 7:36:20 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: PapaBear3625

“The “official” job is rarely the real job. The real job is to expand the power and budget of the bureaucracy by doing the dirty jobs that their political patrons desire.”

Bears repeating. Thanks for such a nicely worded Unified Theory of Everything Government.


13 posted on 10/21/2011 7:38:58 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Kaslin; All
--while I don't disagree that the ATF is a totally corrupt agency at the top, this is not the entire Jay Dobbins story--

--while infiltrating the "Angels", he went "rogue", as it were, and became obsessed with becoming one--and admits to as much in his book--

--he should have been pulled out, disciplined and fired long before he was---

14 posted on 10/21/2011 7:46:20 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Bigun

It’s not just the BATF, I’ve read stories about the FBI and Justice Dept that really make you wonder what side they may be on?


15 posted on 10/21/2011 7:48:27 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO ( Real conservative or go fish))
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To: Kaslin
Clearly, one should fear "the government" as parts of it are very corrupt. It is time to change that and make government afraid of the people.

When Dobyns reported the incident to both ATF and Newell and asked for an investigation into the case, Newell not only refused to investigate, calling the incident "just scorching," but allowed his subordinates, including Gillett, to attempt to frame Dobyns, accusing him of purposely burning down his own home with his family inside, has named him as a suspect and is investigating him. Newell conspired to destroy and fabricate evidence to "prove" his case. Emails, witness testimony, phone conversations and other documentation show the ATF Phoenix Field Divisions’ intentions, led by Newell, were to frame Dobyns, yet Newell denied under oath any involvement in this activity. His subordinates Gillett and ATF Tucson Group Supervisor over Operation Wide Receiver Charles Higman, also denied any attempts to frame Dobyns under oath, despite evidence showing otherwise.

The retaliatory actions of Newell, and other ATF management agents, were reported to ATF senior management at the highest levels and were ignored.

ATF is notorious for retaliatory action against field agents, but the Dobyns case brings that retaliation behavior to a new level. Credible death threats, backed by evidence from inside the prison system, the investigation of the U.S. Office of Special Counsel and the Office of the Inspector General in the Bush Justice Department, were ignored by ATF management in the Phoenix Field Division Office and at ATF headquarters in Washington D.C. Evidence of the threats was also sent to Congress and the President of the United States.

16 posted on 10/21/2011 7:56:14 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Joe Boucher

Small wonder they wish to register firearms?


17 posted on 10/21/2011 7:58:30 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Kaslin

Ping


18 posted on 10/21/2011 7:58:35 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.)
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To: Kaslin
Newell was the brainchild of Operation Fast and Furious in the ATF Phoenix Field office.

Newell is also the agent who was in regular contact with a member of the White House national security team, Kevin O’Reilly, about the lethal program.

Newell also said he would conduct Operation Fast and Furious again, despite two Americans and hundreds of innocent Mexicans dead as a result of the program.

This was a criminal act! If I am even careless with my firearm and someone gets a hold of it and hurts or kills someone, I am deep dodo. Arrest need to made and charges of AT LEAST negligent homicide need to leveled.

19 posted on 10/21/2011 8:01:26 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: Joe Boucher

If you are talking about the justice department under Eric “The Red” Holder you can wonder no longer!


20 posted on 10/21/2011 8:02:14 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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