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ATF Ignored Death Threats, Tried to Frame Whistleblower Agent to Cover Corruption
Townhall.com ^ | October 21, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/21/2011 6:34:56 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Bigun; butterdezillion; Joe Boucher

In general, one of the best reforms I can think of would be to return most of the Departments to agencies in the Department of the Interior, forcing them all to become one level of organization smaller.

The ATF, however, should be further restricted to being a division of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, and only have jurisdiction in Indian Country and federal lands.


21 posted on 10/21/2011 8:07:53 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge for President!)
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To: Kaslin
...revolves around this kind of government within a government conspiracy...

...Bookmarked and BUMPED. Excellent article and good on yer Kas...

22 posted on 10/21/2011 8:09:06 AM PDT by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: mrreaganaut

How about we just do away with the BATF altogether and let regular treasury agents deal with what they are supposed to be doing?


23 posted on 10/21/2011 8:14:23 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: dagogo redux; PapaBear3625
Let me add a LARGE A M E N ! ! !
24 posted on 10/21/2011 8:18:03 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Kaslin
...William Newell has been promoted to a position within ATF in Washington D.C. William McMahon was promoted and now oversees the ATF’s Office of Professional Responsibility and Security Operations or in other words, ATF’s Internal Affairs Division...

If ATF had taken steps to hold Newell, Gillett, McMahon and others responsible for their irresponsible actions surrounding the Dobyns case, Fast and Furious wouldn’t have happened, but because ATF openly rewards bad behavior and corruption, Fast and Furious was utterly predictable. ATF executive leadership left these people in place to rule in this agency. They left management in the ATF Phoenix Field Office in place despite documentation showing they were incompetent...

My main problem with this article is that it appears the author is still buying into the federal government's spin job - that this was a rogue operation running out of the Phoenix office.

It was not! These men were not operating outside the box. They were operating in the box, doing exactly as directed by the powers in Washington DC.

They were NOT promoted despite their actions regarding Fast and Furious, they were promoted to reward them for their actions and to keep them close and quiet.

I really hope the Republicans in congress are not bringing knives to this gun fight. Knowing them, they're probably bringing spoons.

25 posted on 10/21/2011 8:18:07 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: MestaMachine

“it’s a LAW thing”

BUMP!!!

I stated on the day of his “corronation” (inauguration):

“Welcome to New Kenya. (Africa U.S.A.)”

“Where the law of the jungle has replaced the Law of the Land.”

TF


26 posted on 10/21/2011 8:21:16 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: mrreaganaut

Federal anything is not readily accepted on Indian Reservations.
ATF sould be disbanded and many of its current and former employees should be in prison.


27 posted on 10/21/2011 8:28:51 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO ( Real conservative or go fish))
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To: Bigun

“How about we just do away with the BATF altogether and let regular treasury agents deal with what they are supposed to be doing?”

It’s hard to ax these things once they’re established (BATF was created by George Washington); reforming things is commonplace. That’s why I know the IRS will never be eliminated, even if we get a national sales tax to replace the income tax.

Yes, it’s also unusual for anything federal to be downsized, but it’s politically much easier than actually axing something off the org chart. Reagan was going to eliminate Carter’s Department of Education; it’s still here, while Reagan isn’t.


28 posted on 10/21/2011 8:38:54 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge for President!)
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To: Kaslin
Cain on foreign policy....With clarity, identify those who are enemies and stop giving them money......

Works for enemies both foreign and domestic.

Cain is able.

29 posted on 10/21/2011 8:48:24 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama's ratings are so low...Kenyans accuse him of being born in the USA,)
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To: mrreaganaut

If what you say is true and we really cannot reform the government then we might as well say goodby to this once great republic and go sit under the shade tree for what remains of our lives.

I don’t believe that and never will!


30 posted on 10/21/2011 8:54:11 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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31 posted on 10/21/2011 9:07:41 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Kaslin
This is exactly what a gangster govt looks like.


32 posted on 10/21/2011 10:04:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

Explosive stuff....!

ATF is now either nearing the end of it’s lifetime or we’re about to bust out onto a completely new level of corruption and lawlessness.


33 posted on 10/21/2011 1:07:30 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Bigun
I have the words. However, I do not wish to further try the understanding and good will of the Admin Mods here by posting them.

Suffice it to say, what I would have said would have been pulled rather quickly even though it would have contained no foul language.

34 posted on 10/21/2011 1:14:19 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: MestaMachine

Placemark to read every word tomorrow.

What happened to our country?


35 posted on 10/21/2011 10:20:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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