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Posted on 10/21/2011 1:43:29 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
"Rick Perry -- now coming out with, really embracing Steve Forbes' flat tax idea -- that's going to gain momentum. I look forward to hearing more of the details," she said. "In fact, when I heard that Rick Perry was embracing of Steve Forbes' idea, I went into my garage and dug out an old book from 1999 that Steve Forbes had written. ......Many aspects of it make so much sense - - about the freedom to choose - taxpayer how to file your taxes …..choose a simpler, fairer flat tax…..many of the aspects of it make so much sense."....
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
It doesn’t belong to Perry. It was around before he was.
Taxes are not the country’s biggest problem, jobs are. Perry should not be the tax candidate. He should be the job candidate. We need another tax candidate like another war.
....”While Perry won’t offer specifics on the plan until next week, a survey of senior Republican party operatives suggests that the Texas governor might well have stumbled onto a bit of political gold.
“The flat tax is fairly simple and easier to explain, which may help Perry who to date has failed to make a coherent case for why he’s better on the economy than his rivals with private sector experience like [Mitt] Romney and [Herman] Cain,” said Sarah Huckabee, a Republican operative who headed former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty’s Iowa presidential bid earlier this year.
It’s the simplicity of the flat tax that makes it so politically appealing. Nearly all Americans — but especially Republicans — are fed up with the oftentimes baffling complexity of the current tax code and yearn for something better.”.....
If Perry and Cain joined forces to attack Slick Willard’s “plan” on a united front, I wouldn’t care which one of them won the nomination.
“In fact, when I heard that Rick Perry was embracing of Steve Forbes’ idea”
I think she said that. Now for all you palinista’s out there, I don’t think this means she will endorse him. No need to clog the thread with such notions.
Obviously. So what? Perry is the only candidate who supports it.
A flat tax would also remove a lot of corruption from the system. With respect to jobs, if companies are moving out because of high taxes and cheaper labor, lower, easier taxes would keep those companies in the states along with their capital to reinvest and thus more jobs.
Why Rick Perry’s Energy Plan Might be a Game-Changer ...........“The financial crisis of 2008 reached critical mass almost precisely three years ago. And in Washington, the band plays on.
It doesn’t have to be this way. The band in Washington isn’t really playing on; they took their hands off their musical instruments and put them around the country’s economic throat years ago. We are by talent and resources among the richest nations on earth, and by our political freedoms, far and away the greatest. But for going on 30 years now, while we have spent more money that we take in, we have chosen to put much of our natural wealth off limits. That choice has led in direct and indirect ways to the straits we find ourselves in now, at the mercy of some of the world’s worst actors to fuel our economy, and on the precipice of bankruptcy. The current president has taken just about every negative fiscal trend and choice and accelerated them. The best line about Obama is simple: He made it all worse. He has made it harder for us to exploit our natural wealth, by making more of it off-limits and by using regulations to make it either too difficult or even illegal to tap. Whether he believes he had noble reasons or not is irrelevant; the effect of Obama’s actions is that everything is more expensive, jobs are more scarce and America is less secure.
In his energy plan, Perry shows that he understands all of this, and will fix the problem.”…………………
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Rick Perry: Energizing American Jobs and SecuritySections: [ Policy Recommendations with each section]
LoL, great comeback, he is 2nd and 10th amendment, are you going to say he jumped on the Thomas Jefferson Bandwagon too?
You can’t seperate taxes and jobs. Higher taxes and the complicated tax codes are job killers. But it’s not like Perry isn’t talking about energy, jobs, etc.
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Gov. Perry’s economic growth package tackles tax reform, entitlement reform and real spending reductions to address the growing debt crisis.
He’s giving the details Oct 25 — next Tuesday.
Taxes and jobs are mutually intertwined. If you remove the tax burden, jobs will come. Obviously, cutting back on regs will help as well.
Taxes cause the jobs problem.
Rick Perry Gets A Grade on Abortion From Texas Pro-Life Groups “The big question in the Republican presidential race is whether or not Texas Gov. Rick Perry will throw his name in the hat for the GOP nomination to face pro-abortion president Barack Obama. If he does, Texas pro-life groups give him high marks.
“Governor Rick Perry has always championed the pro-life cause, tirelessly advocating for the sanctity of innocent human life in numerous ways,” Texas Right to Life executive director Elizabeth Graham tells LifeNews.com.
Governor Perry has worked alongside Texas Right to Life, helping shepherd our pro-life bills and eagerly supporting our measures,” Graham said. “As governor of Texas, he has intervened to stop anti-life legislation on a number of occasions, and he has helped clear obstacles when necessary.” ………….
June 13, 2011: Texas Gov. Rick Perry blasted pro-abortion President Barack Obama on pro-life issues "Perry said that, under Obama “our federal tax dollars can now be used to fund abortion all over the world. With the stroke of a pen, abortion essentially became a U.S. foreign export......."
”Perry has pleased pro-life advocates in Texas many times with signing pro-life legislation — most recently signing an ultrasound bill allowing women to see them before an abortion and hopefully changing their minds on it. He has been strongly supported by pro-life groups. Perry supported or signed into law the Women’s Right to Know Act and the Prenatal Protection Act in 2003, parental consent law in 2005, and funding for alternatives to abortions in 2007 and 2009."
Jul. 02, 2011:"...But his embrace of the voter ID and sanctuary city bills has threatened a backlash among Hispanics, who accounted for 56 percent of the nation's population growth over the past decade.
Perry's push for the sonogram bill has fortified his long-standing ties to family values and pro-life groups but it has also made him a target from other circles.
"We would aggressively work to defeat him [Perry], of course," said Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, which describes itself as non-partisan but typically backs Democrats. Star Telegram
Margaret Carlson’s take on Perry She hoping he won’t run against Romney, so made an “ick” list about him including:
……”This year, Perry signed into law "emergency legislation" forcing a woman seeking an abortion to have a sonogram, after which she'll be told everything about the fetus. And after Texas's anti-sodomy law was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2003, he supported the state legislature's refusal to remove the law from its books and called the justices "nine oligarchs in robes."………….
Political gold? Oh my read FED UP...he was for flat tax when he wrote his book.
How can anyone but industry create jobs?
Slashing the hell out of our central socialist government would be a big help! That is the ONLY way we’ll get industry that can hire people for JOBS!
Many of the unemployed would have been working at entry-level laborer jobs if there was a manufacturing base. Our government drove that off, remember? Washington nitwits stated that the US was going to become a ‘service’ economy whatever the hell that was supposed to mean.
Parking garage attendant? Night watchman over a warehouse full of Chinese goods?
Perry’s at 7%. Big drop off in fund raising.
I’m starting to come to the conclusion Cain doesn’t intend to go after Romney.
Perry will and I think Newt will start to step it up in an off-handed sly way.
Does he know how many attorneys and CPA’s will be out of business the day after a flat tax goes into effect? You’re talking a minimum of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of unemployed people.
Not that I think its not worth doing of course, I’ve believed in it forever, but it sure won’t be helping employment now.
“easier taxes would keep those companies in the states along with their capital to reinvest and thus more jobs.”
Rick Perry proposed and wrote the 2nd and 10th amendments all by himself!
Proof? That’s not the way primary campaigns go, ever. You’re mistaking a poll for a valid statistic.
Rick Perry's book "almost came too late"
"I wish this book had never needed to be written.
It almost came too late.
America is recklessly accelerating toward economic disaster. Fed Up! may be the last warning sign to the danger that lies ahead.
Rick Perry, Texas governor for the past decade, is uniquely qualified to offer a firsthand perspective on why the United States—the most successful civilization in human history—is being threatened with economic collapse.
I’m curious what % rate Perry will propose.
Naturally, I’m against any and all forms of taxation. But given the choice, I like Cain’s fair tax proposal (phase 2 of 999) better than a flat income tax tax. Why?
Firstly, because a sales tax is more consistently visible than an income tax—the latter only shows up on your paychecks and tax returns, etc. I’d rather keep it constantly thrown up in people’s face how much they’re being extorted by the State. A sales tax accomplishes this end better than a flat tax.
Secondly, a sales tax minimizes class warfare tactics by better assuring that everyone has “skin in the game” so to speak. An income tax is still a tax on success, whether it’s flat or progressive.
He-he, love it! Sarah’s running up the track; shouting, “hold on!, I want a seat on The Rick Perry Express!”
He never claimed that he did, he has already said that he had been talking to Steve Forbes—so what are you spouting off about?
If the Republican field devolves into a battle of tax plans it hurts us all in the General. Yes, tax reform is important and a key to fast and long term economic growth, but it is not the centerpiece of defeating Barack Obama (The Most Important Step to Saving the Economy.) It will be all too easy for the Left and their media allies to portray the Republican field as obsessed with tax rates and doing the bidding of their rich constituency who want to pay less taxes. Republicans need to be talking about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Growth Growth Growth. Tax reform can be the foundation, the keystone, the center piece but you have to call it a “jobs plan” and stop talking about “tax plans”
Today it belongs to Perry.
He is the one in the race that is promoting it.
What’s the matter with you?
LOL, she'll end up derailing the thing.
Oops. TO LATE.
Hahahaha
It's the same with air. Would it be OK with you if he breathed it?
No one knows the details yet — but people are giving their opinions fwiw:
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...”When Steve Forbes proposed the Flat Tax in the 1990s, Mitt Romney got so upset about it, he decided to put an ad out attacking the proposal. Romney’s capital gains rate cutoff is very “unflat tax” and locks in place our current progressive-tax complexity and burden. If Perry makes the Flat Tax the centerpiece of his economic plan, he can contrast with Romney, and then bring in other bold-yet-realistic conservative agenda items to round out a full economic program:
* Tax reform – a flatter, fairer system via the Flat Tax.
* Energy independence via drill now and ‘all of the above’ energy policies.
* Entitlement Reform via Social Security choice.
* Balancing the budget and controlling spending via BBA, and ‘cap and balance’.
* Reassert Federalism by returning money and decisions to states.
* Regulation and federal tort reform – repeal Dodd-Frank, etc.
* Healthcare reform – repeal Obamacare, replace with Healthcare Freedom Act (MSAs, buy insurance across state lines, etc.) “
http://powerwall.msnbc.msn.com/politics/the-campaign-whisperers-1704229.story
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..”Will Perry’s proposal help him with GOP primary voters? That remains to be seen of course. But one thing it may do is draw a distinction between him and once-and-current frontrunner Mitt Romney.
According to the Associated Press, in 1996 Romney bought a $50,000 newspaper ad in Boston that said Forbes’ flat tax proposal would primarily benefit the rich. The flat tax “is a bad idea for the Republican Party,” wrote Romney at the time.”...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2796161/posts?page=10
Tax plans coming out of the closet. Cain came out the “a” solution and now everone is going to have their own solution.
Fair Tax...get with it......
Still not sure....Perry flipped as a Democrat...when in the future will he flip back to democrat principles?
The readers want to know....
Did you hear?
“Michele Bachmann’s paid New Hampshire staff quit today en masse.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2796169/posts
Jobs are a symptom of the diseases of taxes and regulations. If we treat the disease, the symptoms will clear up.
Exactly. There is plenty of room for people to like other candidates’ plans while not necessarily being full bore into the candidate. I really like Paul’s idea to cut $1 trillion. But that doesnt mean I like everything else about him. It would be nice to have an honest debate where people could support multiple ideas from multiple candidates without being called a bot or a sell out to another candidate.
Rick Perry started as a Democrat in West Texas (essentially THE only party). He served in the Texas legislature - was known as one of the "pit bulls," conservative members who sat in the lower pit of the House Appropriations Committee and bitterly fought spending increases.
Perry changed parties in 1989, joining Phil Gramm and other conservative Texas Democrats, who now had a true ideological party with a burgeoning Texas GOP.
When Perry campaigned for Lt. Gov. [1998], he and his campaign staff were in it to win and his hard-nosed style was against the "friendly" advice and request of GWB [in re-election bid for Texas Gov] and Rove to run easy against Sharp, a popular democrat (and Aggie friend of Perry's from their A&M years together). Rove wanted to broaden Bush's base for his upcoming White House run. Perry told them where to stick their advice, because he knew the voters would vote for Bush for Gov. and then cross back over and vote for Sharp (D) for Lt. Gov, if he just walked through the motions like the Bush-Rove team asked him to do.
Perry won the seat for Lt. Gov. -- the first Republican elected to that office since Reconstruction. Now 13 years later and into his 3rd term as Texas governor, the GOP holds a super majority. So Perry has earned his conservative spurs -- fighting both parties!
[The Bushes and Rove supported Kay Bailey Hutchison's primary challenge against Gov. Perry in the 2010 election too]
Agreed.
AND, “Don’t spend all the money.” Rick Perry
ooooohhh, that’s a hard one to predict. There’s so many examples, such as Reagan, who went from one to the other and then back and forth and...oh wait.
Even Texas, that was solidly Dem through the vast majority of its political history, once it became Republican, has kept switching back and forth and...oh wait.
OMG....Palin is a Perry fangirl now??
Well, we do have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world, including the socialist countries in Europe. To some degree, that has an effect of companies leaving the country, or trimming down their scope. That is one of the positives in Cain’s plans, reducing the corporate tax. Im not sure what Perry’s proposal does to the corporate tax, but any way to lower it would be beneficial.
The flat tax is the solution, but not Perry.
“Fair tax” is the most utterly unfair, and unworkable idea to ever have a shot at screwing the American people.
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