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We discussed this before, none of this is known, it is all assumed ... in fact what we know is only what we see through the camera lens during one of Rossi’s shows.

Only Rossi completely handing over the device to someone who has a vested interest in the device actually working will validate this device.

For the public to know it works, will require this to be done publicly. We will have to know that the customer is either a utility or a utility equipment manufacture with a history easily verifiable.

Not like Rossi’s latest partner which created a website for 2.95 in January.

There you go again, your stage magician theory. The only problem with it is that it doesn't hold water. [Vo]:Best and worst aspects of the Oct. 6 test summarized at LENR-CANR News Jed Rothwell Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:27:43 -0700 Terry Blanton wrote: > > And many people are paid for performing grand illusions that > > cannot be exposed by observers in audience and live television. > > And who is going to pay Rossi for a hoax? This engineer will tell you > that none of us will be fooled. > Yeah! About those stage magicians: they only fool you because you are in the audience, not on stage. Put Terry on the stage for a few minutes, let him go behind the apparatus, and he will tell you how the trick works. Special effects in movies are blatantly obvious when you are on the sound stage, watching them film. Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2001_CENTRIFUGE_SET.jpg Do you think anyone would mistake this for an actual space ship? This notion that "fakers" or "scammers" can fool engineers is silly. I been watching this business for nearly 20 years. I have heard of many scammers and met a few in person. They did not fool me or any other knowledgeable person. There are claims difficult to judge. There have been confused people, or people who had complicated machines that took time to understand. Especially the magnet machines. There are cold fusion experiments claiming effects close to the margin of error, such as 2% excess heat. That is hard to confirm or deny. Those are all a different story. Rossi's machine is dead simple from the point of view of calorimetry. Let's see a scammer or stage magician disconnect the power from a box with 30 L of boiling water, change out the water twice, and still have it boiling hot. Not gunna happen. As I have often said, it is a lot easier to find blatant, deliberate fraud than a subtle experimental error. Nature knows more ways to fool us than man will ever dream up. - Jed