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Madonna's brother living on street
QMI Agency ^ | October 23, 2011

Posted on 10/23/2011 9:50:53 AM PDT by rickmichaels

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To: cripplecreek
And what does it take to get fired from daddy's winery?

I was wondering that, myself.

81 posted on 10/23/2011 12:26:15 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Yaelle

It’s easier to end up on the streets than you think. But, yeah, drug or alcohol addiction is the most common cause.

I don’t think that Madonna should simply give her brother anything, she’s right not to do that because addicts don’t desire to change if they are given everything they need to survive.

She’d be wrong though, if he did clean up his act, to not put him to work somehow, whether it be gardener or chauffeur or something.


82 posted on 10/23/2011 2:01:59 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: presently no screen name

My experience with addicts is that they won’t change until they develop the insight and make the connection between being homeless and their drug addiction.

Unfortunately the truth is, if they have that roof over their head and food in their belly, they usually don’t figure out the connection between their lifestyle and their addiction.

I do, however, support providing a reasonable minimal support in terms of food and shelter for those addicts wanting to change.


83 posted on 10/23/2011 2:07:08 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: grellis

She doesn’t ask for anything? Really? Her contract, her ticket prices? Unless people just donated to her.

She doesn’t have to do anything - it just shows what is within. I don’t see where he is asking for anything - he’s just stating the facts because he was asked. At least he doesn’t have to ask for the meal - he can go in and enjoy it because someone else wants to share what they have. It’s not conditional - it comes from the heart.


84 posted on 10/23/2011 2:14:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: Jonty30
My experience with addicts is that they won’t change until they develop the insight and make the connection between being homeless and their drug addiction.

Well I never had experience w/any but I would think they are very obvious to the fact that their decisions caused their situation. The connection comes when they are willing to do something about it where ever they are. I don't see a warm place as a hindrance to that. One meal a day - doesn't fill any belly but it does give him some hope.

For a family member of mind, if he/she wants to drink them self to death I can't help. But if they died in an apt - I would never think it's because of that apt they continued to drink and died.
85 posted on 10/23/2011 2:25:31 PM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: Jonty30
My experience with addicts is that they won’t change until they develop the insight and make the connection between being homeless and their drug addiction.

Well I never had that experience but I would think they are very obvious to the fact that their decisions caused their situation. The connection comes when they are willing to do something about it where ever they are. I don't see a warm place as a hindrance to that. One meal a day - doesn't fill any belly but it does give him some hope.

For a family member of mind, if he/she wants to drink them self to death I can't help. But if they died in an apt - I would never think it's because of that apt they continued to drink and died.
86 posted on 10/23/2011 2:28:21 PM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: rickmichaels

Gosh, folks - it’s HER money!

You people trying to say how she should spend it remind me of the socialists in DC.

Doesn’t matter how YOU’D spend it. It ain’t yours to spend.

We stand for freedom, right?


87 posted on 10/23/2011 2:39:12 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Polynikes

Right, thanks. Like I said up thread - my immediate reaction was the winery closed (due to this business climate). And like I said, I failed to make the obvious connection.


88 posted on 10/23/2011 2:39:28 PM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: presently no screen name

Getting high is the only concern of a drug addict. That’s why they often become homeless, because nothing else matters to them.

It would be great, if by providing a minimal shelter to them, that, in their stupor, a little gleam of insight would develop and that person would decide to change their life, but that doesn’t happen.

If it were up to me, I’d make it illegal to be homeless. If a person is convicted of homelessness, I’d institutionalize them. With forced institutionalization, there is that chance to separate the addict from his drugs, which would give them that chance to get clean and then have the insight to want to change.

If it’s due to some mental imbalance, it also gives that person a chance to be streamed, in terms of their ability to be independent. Some are fully capable of being independent, with a monthly check-up and others perhaps every couple of weeks, and, unfortunately, there are some that can never be independent and must be fully cared for.

Much better than allowing them to die on the streets in their filth, imo.


89 posted on 10/23/2011 2:43:51 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: dragnet2
In many cases people living in the streets have substance abuse problems.

My second sentence was referring to my first sentence. Sorry, I didn't express my thoughts correctly.

90 posted on 10/23/2011 3:01:33 PM PDT by mia
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To: rickmichaels

Homeless people have basically wound up pissing off every family member or friend that ever tried to help them. Being homeless is always a choice.


91 posted on 10/23/2011 3:05:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JimRed

Yeah, I know. Go to post #22 and try that one, it works. After the page comes up go to the bottom to see the pic.


92 posted on 10/23/2011 3:16:40 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: dfwgator

and now he appears to be playing...”i’m going to get the sympathy of the media” card.

Somehow I think she’ll resist it just fine.


93 posted on 10/23/2011 3:18:29 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: rickmichaels

You would think his liberal sister, with all her compassion, would help him.


94 posted on 10/23/2011 4:22:05 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: presently no screen name
Yadda yadda yadda. Spoken like someone who has never had to watch a loved one destroy their life with drugs. What you're giving them is a more comfortable death, not an avenue to a healthy life. You think that's love? Not my definition. And as for what Madonna--or any celebrity selling a product-- "asks" for, that's not what she's doing. She's PRICING a product. Nobody has to buy it.
95 posted on 10/23/2011 4:26:46 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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96 posted on 10/23/2011 4:28:20 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Popman

dittos....you take care of messed up family when you have millions to spare. She could easily find some way of funneling him $25,000 a year to live on via a lawyer if she didn’t want contact with him


97 posted on 10/23/2011 4:37:46 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: cripplecreek

Notice how how he implies Madonna should support him.

He needs to look for work independently of his sister.


98 posted on 10/23/2011 4:44:19 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: presently no screen name
Shame on Madonna in more ways than one.

Not in this case. It's obvious the family is doing the right thing and not enabling the presumed substance abuser..

It's called "tough love" and harder on the family than it is on the abuser. I hope things eventually work out for Anthony and his family.

99 posted on 10/23/2011 4:51:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I guess some people are born with a need to be pissed off about something........)
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To: rickmichaels

So many here know, are certain that the man is an “idiot”. Shame.


100 posted on 10/23/2011 4:57:28 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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