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Herman Cain tops Mitt Romney in latest CBS/NYT poll
cbsnews.com ^ | 10/25/11 | Corbett B. Daly

Posted on 10/25/2011 5:16:12 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009

Businessman Herman Cain is now atop the field of Republican White House hopefuls, squeaking past former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the latest CBS News/New York Times poll.

Cain garnered 25 percent support of Republican primary voters in the poll released Tuesday, compared to Romney's 21 percent.

In early October, the two men were tied at 17 percent.

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woot! go Cain!
1 posted on 10/25/2011 5:16:22 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Seems suspicious. Why would these Marxists release a poll showing Cain on top?


2 posted on 10/25/2011 5:21:08 AM PDT by albie
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The Cain Train is just fine. I am so thrilled about his. Great job Herman!!!!!! President Cain sure sounds awesome!!!!!


3 posted on 10/25/2011 5:21:21 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: TexasFreeper2009

This is the guy Rove said has faded, right? The one Hume and foxnews said is done?


4 posted on 10/25/2011 5:22:51 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: albie
Seems suspicious. Why would these Marxists release a poll showing Cain on top?

Hmmm... I'll take a stab at it... how about, because Cain's on top?

5 posted on 10/25/2011 5:23:10 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
EAGLES UP!

Classic CONSERVATIVE vs. RINO race shaping up here folks.

6 posted on 10/25/2011 5:26:09 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mister Cain: a) IOWA upgrades, GOOD! b) Extend an offer to John Bolton to be your chief FP adviser)
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To: ScottinVA

It is a two-man race, Cain and Romney.

Karl Rove has gone all in for Romney and is attempting to destroy Cain on the so-called gaffe problem


7 posted on 10/25/2011 5:26:14 AM PDT by MitchSouthFla.
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To: MitchSouthFla.

They we will turn it back around upon him then. These beltway elites make me sick.


8 posted on 10/25/2011 5:27:28 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mister Cain: a) IOWA upgrades, GOOD! b) Extend an offer to John Bolton to be your chief FP adviser)
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To: MitchSouthFla.

I have never seen a candidate vaporize as quickly as Rick Perry has. Stick a fork in him . .

But he has so much money he can stay in the race as long as he pleases.


9 posted on 10/25/2011 5:27:50 AM PDT by MitchSouthFla.
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“The race is still open, as voters are not firm in their support of any of the candidates. About four of five voters said it is too early to say for sure who they support for the nomination, with just 19 percent saying their minds are already made up. That’s about the same as it was at this point in 2007.”

Hummm...


10 posted on 10/25/2011 5:30:38 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
What???

Rove and Hume just yesterday assured us that Cain is crashing. Rove even specifically said that Cain had peaked between 10/6 and 10/10 and is now tanking in the polls.

What gives?

11 posted on 10/25/2011 5:31:00 AM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: TexasFreeper2009

This is a poll asking mostly non-Republicans who should win the Republican nomination.


12 posted on 10/25/2011 5:31:41 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Businessman Herman Cain is now atop the field of Republican White House hopefuls, squeaking past former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in the latest CBS News/New York Times poll.

4% which is outside the margin of error, is now squeaking by.

They were tied at 17% and Herman went up 8% and romney went up 4%, so Herman doubled his new support.

13 posted on 10/25/2011 5:33:26 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Is this the man that is beating the dog poo out of perry in his home state.
14 posted on 10/25/2011 5:37:16 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

"Milt Romney's tumble in latest CBS/NYT poll to Mr. Cain,
and Romney's recent collapsing loss to Mr Cain
in the 2012 Iowa Republican Caucus (Cain 28% Romney 21%)

means as little as Romney's plummeting career-ending loss to Mr. Cain
in the Newsmax poll (71% to 7% for Myth)
,
or Milt's shocking loss to Herman Cain in the PPP poll ,
or Milt's incredible 3 to 1 devastating loss to Herman Cain in Florida
or Romney's third place hopeless loss to Mr. Cain in the Presidential Straw Poll
of National Federation of Republican Women, or
even Romney's humiliating loss to Mr. Cain
in the October Newsmax/InsiderAdvantage poll,
or Romney's exsanguinating loss to Cain in the
Midwest Leadership Conference Straw Poll.
At the end of the the day, this will not matter to FOX News.
Never. No way. We are biased by the individuals we pimp.
From the desks of McGinniss and Ailes,
we at FOX News will continue to push
our Milt Romney on you as THE "leading candidate"
… even when you know it is obviously not true.
"

15 posted on 10/25/2011 5:40:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The best part of the poll is that Romney’s support has dropped significantly from other recent polls taken, which has (or will) put Cain as the clear leader on RCP (when they update with these new numbers)


16 posted on 10/25/2011 5:43:07 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: tlozo
This is a poll asking mostly non-Republicans who should win the Republican nomination.

And that raises an interesting point...Romney was supposed to be the most popular candidate with non-Republicans and this poll indicates that Cain is their favorite.

17 posted on 10/25/2011 5:47:11 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: TexasFreeper2009
From the article:

1,475 interviews were conducted among registered voters and 455 voters who said they plan to vote in a Republican primary. The margin of error among primary voters is plus or minus four percentage points.

So basically, Cain and Romney are statistically tied when polling a sample of voters weighted with non-Republicans who were asked "who do you think Republicans will vote for?".

Means absolutely nothing.

Either the people interpreting the poll are incompetent or there is an ulterior motive for making Cain look strong.

18 posted on 10/25/2011 5:48:41 AM PDT by LoveUSA (You don't notice the night light until it gets dark.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
It won't stop C.B.S., A.P., Reuters, MSNBC and others from referring to Romney as the "front runner".
19 posted on 10/25/2011 5:49:39 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I just noticed that also, among just the tea party respondents the numbers were even more devastating for Romney, it was Cain 32, Romney 18.

Which means Cain is WAY ahead among all groups.


20 posted on 10/25/2011 5:50:39 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: RoosterRedux

IMHO...Cain is nothing but a spoiler....similar to Palin. The difference is...he declared. Is his following real?? Not sure because a HIGH majority of Repub voters are still not committed. That makes the poll...a $3 bill.


21 posted on 10/25/2011 5:52:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: BenKenobi; TheConservativeParty; NoGrayZone; Kartographer; justsaynomore; MNJohnnie; PhilDragoo; ...
CAIN-TRAIN PING

(TELL BenKenobi if you want on the Ping List)

22 posted on 10/25/2011 5:55:15 AM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: MitchSouthFla.

Does nobody (in the elite GOP) see that Romney made a HUGE gaffe last week with “I’m running for office for Pete’s Sake, I can’t have illegals!”


23 posted on 10/25/2011 5:55:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (In under 13 months, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: tlozo

Yes, I hate these types of polls. However, when Perry was doing well in these types of polls, people held them up like gospel. I would like to see the breakdown of how likely Republican voters voted in this poll...I wager this was high for Cain. Also, I’d normally not read too much into this type of poll, except that it jives with all the other ones out. Cain is a certified front runner.


24 posted on 10/25/2011 5:55:48 AM PDT by chilepup
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To: albie

Target identification by the left.

They really, and rightly, fear this man.


25 posted on 10/25/2011 5:59:01 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: onyx
Great news, I think most of Palin's supporters out there have moved to supporting Cain, and it is now his to win or lose.

His debate with Newt is going to be a major hurdle for him to cross, if he comes out of that one well, I think he wins this thing.

Now if only Perry would drop out.........

26 posted on 10/25/2011 6:00:00 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: TexasFreeper2009

27 posted on 10/25/2011 6:00:35 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: rhinohunter

There are only two people who give a crap what Rove has to say anymore.....Sean Hannity and Karl Rove.


28 posted on 10/25/2011 6:00:53 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Abolish TSA....Abolish Department of Fatherland Security...Just Say NO to the American Police State!)
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To: Graybeard58

“It won’t stop C.B.S., A.P., Reuters, MSNBC and others from referring to Romney as the “front runner”. “

And even Fox.

I keep thinking, they can’t be stupid enough to believe what they just said.

They must think I’m stupid enough to believe it.


29 posted on 10/25/2011 6:03:10 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: Sacajaweau

You’ve got it backwards, Perry is the spoiler. He is the only one that could prevent conservatives from beating Romney (with a Cain).


30 posted on 10/25/2011 6:03:10 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: TexasFreeper2009

This can’t be right, Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer said last night Cain peaked and his poll numbers were falling, citing last week’s outlier AP poll showing Romney up 4.


31 posted on 10/25/2011 6:04:58 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: MitchSouthFla.
But Perry has so much money he can stay in the race as long as he pleases.

Hopefully he'll spend his treasure taking down Weird Willy. Willard is a big AH with unbridled ambition, willing to do or say anything in his quest to become a Mormon god. We are better off with 4 more years of the sock puppet than that prick.

32 posted on 10/25/2011 6:06:17 AM PDT by Reeses (Have you mocked a Democrat today?)
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To: onyx

ruh roh


33 posted on 10/25/2011 6:07:00 AM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: wolfman23601

your right, that particular poll from last week now looks like an outlier, since Romney polls in the low 20’s in nearly every other recent poll including this one.


34 posted on 10/25/2011 6:07:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: tlozo
This is a poll asking mostly non-Republicans who should win the Republican nomination.

Do you have anything to back that up? Or is this just you making stuff up?

From the article, “Cain garnered 25 percent support of Republican primary voters in the poll released Tuesday, compared to Romney's 21 percent

35 posted on 10/25/2011 6:07:54 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Cain needs to clobber Romney on:

#1 Global warming

#2 Romneycare


36 posted on 10/25/2011 6:08:26 AM PDT by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Even though Herman’s been taking a lot of hits in the last week or so, he stays on top and keeps advancing. Looking stronger and stronger.


37 posted on 10/25/2011 6:09:30 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: onyx

Put me on the Cain Train onyx. All ABOARD!!


38 posted on 10/25/2011 6:12:45 AM PDT by bray (Join the Cain Mutiny, tell the IRS 9-9-9!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; South40; cripplecreek; caww; miss marmelstein; gov_bean_ counter; Condor51; ...
SINKING INTO OBLIVION Perry had just 7 percent compared to 12 percent in early October and a staggering 30 percent in mid-September.

Looks like his outdated "energy plan" and rewarmed flat tax aren't helping La Raza Rick.

39 posted on 10/25/2011 6:14:12 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: ilgipper

I saw the fox news thing and I was like WTF? They’re pushing for their man Mitt hard.


40 posted on 10/25/2011 6:14:24 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“...squeaking past Romney...”?

Tied 17/17 in early October. Now Cain leads 25/21 in late October. Sounds more like a blow-by.


41 posted on 10/25/2011 6:15:13 AM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: Lakeshark

Yes, and I’m pulling for him to do well and I have faith we will. Herman Cain is honest and he will speak from his heart.

Nobody will care that he’s not a policy wonk.

He can hire and staff the best and most premiere conservative minds in his cabinet to advise him in areas he’s dealt with before.

Everyone also knows that Mr. Speaker is always the smartest guy in the room, so by shwoing up, Herman Cain is already a great man and winner.


42 posted on 10/25/2011 6:15:18 AM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: LyinLibs

I am absolutely shocked that no one has attacked Romney yet on the free healthcare for illegal aliens angle thru Romneycare.

Once someone lands that blow in a debate, Romney is done.

That is 10 times worse than the tuition issue, since it also touches on Romneycare.


43 posted on 10/25/2011 6:16:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: ilgipper

Karl is in the tank for Romney.....

Fox News is the RSM (RINO Stream Media).

Bill O’Reilly leaned on his regular guest Bernard Goldberg about the “purists” as O’Reilly called them (Monday October 17th) who don’t want a Romney as the nominee.

Cain looks like the one to beat Romney right now.

Not my first choice but the last man standing after the debate meatgrinder.


44 posted on 10/25/2011 6:17:07 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Sacajaweau

I can understand someone such as Perot or John Anderson being called a spoiler, perhaps even Nader, but certainly not the front-runner.

Cain is leading in all national polls. He’s leading in virtually every state by wide margins. Heck, he’s leading in Texas by a huge margin.

When he’s being sworn in a year from January, will you still be dissing him?


45 posted on 10/25/2011 6:17:43 AM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Herman Cain 2012..get on the CAIN train! Content of Character, that's the ticket!)
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To: bray; BenKenobi
Put me on the Cain Train onyx. All ABOARD!!

WOO-HOO! Thanks very much, dearest Bray!!!

I'll notify BenKenobi!

46 posted on 10/25/2011 6:18:39 AM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
If hard core lying Lefties like CBS/NYT have Cain only a little ahead of their favorite RINO Mitt—the Hermanater must be WAY ahead.
47 posted on 10/25/2011 6:19:44 AM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: Nextrush

The “mainstream” republicans just need to get out of the way and get on board the Cain train, because he’s the frontrunner...

isn’t that their logic?


48 posted on 10/25/2011 6:21:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Happy Rain

actually they did their best to hide how far ahead Cain really is, the polls numbers at the top are of adults.... not even republicans, just adults. When you dig a little deaper you see that Cain is much further ahead with conservatives 32-18.


49 posted on 10/25/2011 6:22:30 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: ScottinVA

Ya beat me to it. I think demrat polling indicates Cain is the real thing. Palin Tea Party conservatives and indies have swung to Cain wholesale. These are real voters—not a gaggle of voting age people.

Cain’s continued success is his to lose at this point—IMHO.

The national GOP has a real problem now that Cain is undisputed front runner. It will have to capitulate to the conservatives or continue the fruitless Romney drum beating. As the demrat party controls the RINO-led GOP I don’t see the demrats allowing the GOP to be retaken by conservatives. Demrat Marxists know this is their last shot. I don’t see them giving up control of the GOP.

That throws the ball back in the lap of Tea Party conservatives snd enlightened indies. The question will be what are we prepared to do? If your answer is vote for the RINO you are part of the problem.


50 posted on 10/25/2011 6:24:12 AM PDT by dools0007world
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