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1 posted on 10/26/2011 6:31:58 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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When they are caught, a public flogging is in order. There is no such thing as “cruel and unusual punishment” to tame these a-holes.


2 posted on 10/26/2011 6:35:17 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama's presidency is shovel-ready; let's bury it in 2012!)
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One of these “ geezers” is gonna be packing and will go Bernard gietz on them.
That will be the end of the knockout game


3 posted on 10/26/2011 6:39:49 AM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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“The mayor called the attackers “thugs” and warned they won’t be allowed to rule the streets”

Not if holder and hussein have anything to say about it. They are all about class and race warfare.


4 posted on 10/26/2011 6:40:43 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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I am curious why only the sexuality of the gay man was mentioned. Why were none of the others identified as heterosexual? Was he targeted specifically because he was gay? Is it going to be prosecuted as a “hate crime”?


7 posted on 10/26/2011 6:45:28 AM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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Obama’s people having fun. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
9 posted on 10/26/2011 6:52:27 AM PDT by baddog 219
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The attackers must be from the Lancaster area of Pa. where a lot of Amish have fled to find a better life in St.Louis.


12 posted on 10/26/2011 7:01:47 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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I HATE the term, “Knockout game”. It minimizes what it really is.. a brutal crime against someone. In the one case, it was murder. A game is Monopoly or checkers... it doesn’t kill someone or leave them in a coma. Sheesh....


13 posted on 10/26/2011 7:04:29 AM PDT by momtothree
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Wait until a few days before the election, this will suddenly be a nationwide epidemic. Teenagers using violence to keep people from going to the polls is a fascist tradition and the democrat party has always been a fascist party. Both these attacks on individuals and gangs running wild through stores will be prominent in the news the last four or five days before the election and it WILL have the desired effect in many parts of the country.

Don't put anything past these fascist SOBs. Those in the fascist democrat leadership have all worked their entire life to put fascist one party rule in place and they were so sure they had finally achieved their goal that they were gloating about it in 2009. Now that it's clearly slipping away from them they're more than desperate. Don't even be shocked if someone at one of the current "occupy" sites is a suicide bomber who kills police by blowing them-self up.

18 posted on 10/26/2011 7:15:41 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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I’ve been reading reports about flash mobs and knock-out ‘games’ for about a year now. And in every comment section, the observation is invariably made that the time is soon coming when Holder’s people unwittingly select an armed man for their next victim, and wind up liberally ventilated for their trouble. Nothing would make me happier, but I’m beginning to wonder when the odds are going to turn on these thugs. I can’t recall a single incident where a victim actually fought back - with his fists, much less a pistol. Maybe these animals will need to take their offensive to the next level - full-strength forays into middle-class subdivisions - before they get what they deserve.


19 posted on 10/26/2011 7:23:47 AM PDT by Basil Duke
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Multiculturalism boldly taking us into our future South African quality of life. This will continue and in fact increase until the victims families decide that retribution against the community that harbors these inner-city terrorist are fair game.


25 posted on 10/26/2011 7:56:04 AM PDT by The Toll
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Here are some stats on CCW and Pop. in Missouri

CCW numbers are from the MO Dept of Revenue (keepers of the CCW endorsement process-available on the internet) and population from the 2010 census by MO county. St Louis city has the same status as a county in the state, FYI, with it’s own Sheriff and PD.

StL County-CCW 14,771, pop 1,020,000
StL City-CCW 3173, pop 348,000

for a total of 1.48 CCWs per 100k people

Also, using 2010 Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) numbers provided by the FBI, here are the approx. rates of all violent crime in MO cities (MSAs and nonrural cities), compared to rural counties:

Cities: 25,550 violent crimes, pop. 5.140 million or 493 per 100k people

Rural counties: 1902 violent crimes, pop. 833k or 228 per 100k people.

Overall Mo pop is ~ 5,595,000 and there are as of 30 Sep 2011, 126,197 CCW endorsements in effect or a rate of 22 CCW per 100k people.

Now that Mo has changed the minimum CCW age from 23 to 21, there should be a fair number more added to the overall CCW count in the next year or so.

In summary, there are only ~1.5 people per 100k in StL area carrying a legally concealed weapon, while in the rest of the state there are ~22 CCWs per 100k people.

Looks to me that more guns equals less crime from this superficial comparison of CCW rates and crimes rates. Non-scientific of course.

I live in rural MO, of course.


29 posted on 10/26/2011 8:09:21 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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Rule number 1: If you value your life,and live around zoo grounds, you will not go outside your front or back door without a gun or good kife along with the will to use them if necessary.

When this rule is violated, there is usually a funeral in your family within a seven day period. Should you have to use either, you will probably arrested,so save all explanation as to what happened for your lawyer.

Call the police? First of all, the police do as they are told, and they have been told to look the other way.

36 posted on 10/26/2011 8:30:15 AM PDT by sport
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I think an ambush is called for here. I would love to see a setup where there’s a “bait” walker and a group waiting in the wings to knock the shit out of the “knockout game” participants when they try to strike. Would make them think twice before trying it again.


37 posted on 10/26/2011 8:30:32 AM PDT by Mopp4 (YES WE CAIN !)
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All those assaults occurred no more than two miles apart. About six blocks east of the most recent assault is one of St. Louis City’s most violent neighborhoods, a neighborhood that at one time, was all working class Germans and Italians.

They are long gone, and you can guess who took their place.

I used to run those streets as a kid, and never was there any of this nonsense.


39 posted on 10/26/2011 9:45:03 AM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's free, swipe your EBT!")
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I posted this several days ago, with a similiar situation but would like to share it again.

Another victim of the Knockout Game.

Here’s some things I have learned working the streets and seeing how these cats move.

They will determine what they are going to do within a couple of seconds of seeing you. They will also alert any compatriots with looks, hand gestures or head bobs that you are a potential mark.

They will then go into a predatory mode that is easily recognizable in other predators. If you have ever watched big cats stalk, or sharks move prior to attacking, they are moving their heads side to side. The street predators do the same and they are looking for those who might witness their acts or interrupt them. Watch for this behavior.

They may also pull their hoodies up over their heads just prior to moving toward you. It is exactly what you think it is and don’t ignore that little voice that saying, “This is a bad thing about to happen.” They will drop their heads, hide their hands, and rock side to side. This is so you can’t see their eyes, the hands they are clenching into fists, and the side to side motion is in anticipation of a sudden sucker punch as you or they pass. They prefer a haymaker style punch that utilizes a whipping action and may incorporate the forearm to the side of your head. When it connects it’s devastating.

You have to make a decision pretty quick to spoil their plans. In fact, you should have already have a plan worked out in your mind well before this happens. We call it Self Talk in police work. “If this, then this.” Been doing it on the way to calls for years, and do it outside of work as well.

Understand the thugs adapt quickly and if you make a move to avoid them, expect them to close and make some excuse to get you to drop your guard. Remember this phrase, “Uh excuse me sir, can you....(tell me what time it is, change a twenty, etc.) That phrase is a prelude to an attack. Your moving away from the ambush caused them to have to step it up, and it will appear as a rushed act. You will also notice that they are trying to look everywhere but at you, except to grab quick glances to see if you are truly looking at your watch, or cell phone, or getting your wallet out. If you pull any of those out, shame on you. They will hit you with one hand, and snatch the item with the other, and will be loping away while you are seeing stars and shredded wheat. DO NOT CHASE. It’s their turf and they can get assistance from ANYONE. And they will get it, willingly.

If you get knocked down, they will do Riverdance on your back. Getting kicked while down can most definitely cause serious physical injury, so deadly force is covered. If you are assailed by multiple individuals, again, no reasonable person can be expected to defend themselves with conventional fisticuffs, so deadly force would be a fine.

Also remember that if you choose to brandish, or even imply that you armed, do not fall for that chit eating grin they will give you, and the obligatory, “Oh alright, it’s cool dog.” This is just another attempt to get you to drop your guard, while they either move to hidden gun or draw the one they have. Get to a more defensible position.

Remember, “Officer, I was in fear for my life and the lives of my family. I had no choice, and I wish to talk to my lawyer.”


40 posted on 10/26/2011 9:49:58 AM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's free, swipe your EBT!")
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That's what happens when you create an unneeded welfare state in urban areas.

What, 30% and up unemployment?

And hundreds of thousands of inner city dwellers on the dole, many of whom could work if it wasn't so easy to be paid to be a large part of the DNC’s voter base.

Bored pampered subsidized people with no direction and most without father figures, idle hands are the devils tools.

Obama and his ilk know that so well.

41 posted on 10/26/2011 10:45:10 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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Did the old man have an American flag t-shirt on?

Is this the reason they attacked him?


43 posted on 11/11/2011 4:33:14 PM PST by SkyPilot
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