[Tublecane]

“Of course it did. The United States existed with the signing of the Declaration of Independence”

No, there was the Continental Congress and the Articles of Confederation between the Declaration and the Constitution (which created the U.S.); you may have heard of them.

“The ratification of the Constitution was the creation of the form of government that the previously declared United States would follow.”

Huh? I literally can’t understand this.

[Political Junkie Too]

The United States existed by the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

You said "How could they be, when the U.S. didn’t yet exist?" in your response to my quoting the Preamble.

You were wrong.

-PJ

[Political Junkie Too]

the Constitution (which created the U.S.);

Let me make this easier for you.

In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events...

That's not the Constitution. It's the Declaration that created the US.

The Constitution created the republican form of government within which the states agreed to operate.

-PJ

[PA-RIVER]

If the Father was truly Unknown, there would be no tie or influence to any foreign country. So I suspect that would be a NBC.... and a bastard.